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Diablo SV

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121 posts

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Was thinking of changing the standard exaust on my Diablo SV to something a bit louder , a bit more grunt , a bit more gusto biglaugh . I've heard of Larini / Capristo and now Seca . I was wondering what Pher's would go for , and if anyone has direct experience with either positive or otherwise . Things that I'm interested in is (a) the price (b) would it get tiresome (c) extra runnings costs if any (d)noise regulations including mot's etc . In fact any advice welcome .

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fyfe

62 posts

15 months

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The legendary Harry Flashman seems to have found an independent worth a look and has detailed his experiences here - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Just in case you fancied avoiding the usual suspects.

paulqv

2,420 posts

65 months

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Also depends on how far you want to drive the car! I put a stainless identical system on my QV and Khamioin, both of which are a lot noisier than standard units, but are acceptable for long distance driving. My mate had a sport system on his Anniversary. Sounded awesome at idle and in short runs but very very tiring on long ones

Paul


Diablo SV

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121 posts

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paulqv said:
Also depends on how far you want to drive the car! I put a stainless identical system on my QV and Khamioin, both of which are a lot noisier than standard units, but are acceptable for long distance driving. My mate had a sport system on his Anniversary. Sounded awesome at idle and in short runs but very very tiring on long ones

Paul
Yes Paul , I am concerned about the long runs and how tiring it might become , read somewhere that the Capristo's can be programmed with different sound levels in case it gets a bit nausiating .

paulqv

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I will check with a few mates who have SV's and see what they have on their cars.

I would be surprised if anything of that vintage can be 'programed" as it works on electronic operation of a bypass, which may be rev dependent and could be beyond any ECU of that era.

A couple of weeks ago I did 1500km in my QV part of which was along with friends in a G spyder. They wanted to be in the QV due to noise and ride comfort!

I would try a car with one fitted at 70-80 and see if you could live with that level

I couldnt and I am 1/3rd deaf!


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Diablo SV

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Thank you for your enquiry.
We recommend the Seca exhaust for your Lamborghini Diablo – the Capristo is a little on the expensive side, and although it is the best exhaust, the Seca produces a sound almost as good for much less money. If it the Capristo you want though, do let me know and I can price you on that. I’ve put together some info on the Seca below:

Technical Information and Guidance

Although there are various models of the Seca Exhaust for the Lamborghini Diablo - we have chosen not to supply the quieter variations of the system and now only really recommend to the Level 2 system

So here are the options available for the car:



1. Normal version – Level 1

2. Loud version - Level 2

3. Extra loud version – level 3



We have chosen not to supply the normal version of the system at all. This system gives a sound which is far too close to the standard exhaust and is for customers looking for a only a little bit more sound than the stock unit - it can therefore be a bit disappointing for a customer looking for something substantially different! On the other hand, the loudest model is typically specified by customers looking for the most extreme sound possible.



One of the key things to remember with the Seca exhaust for this car is that it is NOT a simple straight pipe, or a crossover - all three systems are proper mufflers. They all manage to hone the exhaust note instead of just delivering maximum volume with no tonal quality. Both the latter two options give the Diablo a roaring scream - not just a flat bassy sound - it's got a richer, fuller and more "expensive" sound than any straight pipe configuration.



In addition, what makes the exhaust system unique is that it can be specified to include special chrome polished end tips (in different variation) which eliminate something called the ENCS (Lamborghini's Exhaust Noise Control System) - these are the sound control valves which are located on the original end tips. Getting rid of them with the Seca means that you ALWAYS get a great sound from the car - when it first starts, on small throttle openings, and through the gears, with popping and cracking and flames on the overrun. In addition, the tips look great too and fill out the back end of the car without looking overly aftermarket making the stock tips look just that little bit weedy.



Both the latter two systems weigh perhaps 1/3 of the weight of the original system, letting the owner drop weight from an important position (i.e from behind the rear wheels!) and massively reduce backpressure. A main dealer who dyno-ed the car said the full system with end tips gave an early Diablo 20 bhp which is a very large power increase for a bolt in cat-back exhaust product on a normally aspirated car!



Prices

-Seca Sport muffler £2050 + VAT

-Seca End tips: £890 + VAT



Installation is also available from us, should you want it.



Seca Competizione



It is worth making a note of who and what Seca Competizione are. Located in Italy, and born of experience gained in Formula One and long years of motorsport exhaust fabrication, Seca sports exhausts systems are focussed on delivering the ultimate sound for each performance car whilst maintaining originality and practically. Each system is lovingly hand made in grade 304 stainless steel to give an impeccable finish and outstanding durability. Seca Competizione themselves have a long background in the most extreme applications of exhaust fabrication primarily in Motorsport, including the FIA GT Champship, Formula One, ALMS, and the World Rally Championship. Their emphasis on delivering a quality exhaust sound without downside and it is what distinguishes Seca from other exhaust manufacturers in the market place today with some of world’s finest products available.

I hope this helps. Please do let me know if you have any other questions and I will be more than willing to help.


INTERESTING EMAIL I RECIEVED FROM CAPRISTO WEBSITE . PRICES APPEAR OK TOO !!.

paulqv

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This idea of weight saving is laughable. The QV has a 120L petrol tank. thats 120kg. Weight saving of say 10kg on an exhaust. Doubt even Valentino could tell!

20bhp.............. ok, 4% increase in power. mmmmmmmm. If reduce one thing eg back pressure, then there would have to be a corresponding change to maintain balance and change the overall mapping.

Sorry heard this stuff for 40 years and yet to be convinced of some of the claims. The look better. they lasst longer. they MAY sound better; They may be a bit smoother; but engines need balance to optimise performance within intended objectives.

I wont go on as am sure I will be shouted at for this! lol Tin helmet and flack jacket on.

x

ahaughton

606 posts

97 months

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The exhaust on my 99' SV idles at around 126dB and for about 30 mins on a run it's tolerable, beyond that I have to wear earplugs. A friend in an F430 can't hear his car above mine :-) in terms of MOT, find a sympathetic garage, my local doesn't even bother with the emissions test as long as he can take photo's of the car :-)

baptist

552 posts

126 months

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Idles at 126db, are you sure about that????

ahaughton

606 posts

97 months

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baptist said:
Idles at 126db, are you sure about that????
My db meter says so.

Animal

3,303 posts

138 months

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ahaughton said:
The exhaust on my 99' SV idles at around 126dB and for about 30 mins on a run it's tolerable, beyond that I have to wear earplugs. A friend in an F430 can't hear his car above mine :-) in terms of MOT, find a sympathetic garage, my local doesn't even bother with the emissions test as long as he can take photo's of the car :-)
Require pics and video. Pleeeeease?!

nickster

476 posts

118 months

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paulqv said:
This idea of weight saving is laughable. The QV has a 120L petrol tank. thats 120kg. Weight saving of say 10kg on an exhaust. Doubt even Valentino could tell!

20bhp.............. ok, 4% increase in power. mmmmmmmm. If reduce one thing eg back pressure, then there would have to be a corresponding change to maintain balance and change the overall mapping.

Sorry heard this stuff for 40 years and yet to be convinced of some of the claims. The look better. they lasst longer. they MAY sound better; They may be a bit smoother; but engines need balance to optimise performance within intended objectives.

I wont go on as am sure I will be shouted at for this! lol Tin helmet and flack jacket on.

x
Fair point on the weight saving.I had straight through pipes done and lost the cats.Now they weighed loads! Coupled with the standard muffler being removed,must have saved a fair bit of lard.

andysv

1,099 posts

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paulqv said:
I will check with a few mates who have SV's and see what they have on their cars.

I would be surprised if anything of that vintage can be 'programed" as it works on electronic operation of a bypass, which may be rev dependent and could be beyond any ECU of that era.

A couple of weeks ago I did 1500km in my QV part of which was along with friends in a G spyder. They wanted to be in the QV due to noise and ride comfort!

I would try a car with one fitted at 70-80 and see if you could live with that level

I couldnt and I am 1/3rd deaf!


Paul i hope you are wrong i've had a qv and an sv and just got a g spyder, can't say it feels less comfortable tbh, not sure about the noise yet it's on a std system but i have been pulled by the cops already for making a racket! yes really, anyone else had this with a boggo std spyder?

Diablo SV

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121 posts

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fyfe said:
The legendary Harry Flashman seems to have found an independent worth a look and has detailed his experiences here - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Just in case you fancied avoiding the usual suspects.
Thanks for that Fyfe , will check them out when back in Blighty

paulqv

2,420 posts

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andysv said:
Paul i hope you are wrong i've had a qv and an sv and just got a g spyder, can't say it feels less comfortable tbh, not sure about the noise yet it's on a std system but i have been pulled by the cops already for making a racket! yes really, anyone else had this with a boggo std spyder?
I was out today in 3 different ones and the Aventador. I didn't think the standard systems on the Superlegera, the Performa ( SL spyder!) the 550 were that loud. Think the cops were being a bit over zealous. Mind you I had driven through in the QV and it's noisy at the best of times! That car sounds louder outside! lol

On modern cars such as yours I would imagine it would be easy to reprogram the ECU to optimise the change in back pressure.

Bueller355

12 posts

14 months

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ahaughton said:
My db meter says so.
I would love to be proven wrong but my guess is either your meter was found in the bottom of a Corn Flakes packet or you have the mic of the meter stuck in the exhaust !

baptist

552 posts

126 months

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I cannot see how any car could be that loud on idle.
My Gallardo is completely unsilenced and decatted and that is 104db on cold start with the air pump running, its so loud you cannot hear someone even shouting when near the car!

By the way, im not after a PH battle here, I'd be interested to hear a car that loud at idle!!!! smile

ahaughton

606 posts

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Bueller355 said:
I would love to be proven wrong but my guess is either your meter was found in the bottom of a Corn Flakes packet or you have the mic of the meter stuck in the exhaust !
It's a quality meter but perhaps I am holding it a bit close ;-) I'll try to do a video later today with it at various distances etc.

jhoneyball

857 posts

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Theres no such thing as a "quality meter"

There is "calibrated" and theres "crap"

Do you calibrate yours with a pistonphone calibrator each time you use it?

ahaughton

606 posts

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jhoneyball said:
Theres no such thing as a "quality meter"

There is "calibrated" and theres "crap"

Do you calibrate yours with a pistonphone calibrator each time you use it?
Given we're talking about measuring the noise from a Car and not something attached to the HLC, I calibrate it by drinking a can of Wife Beater as fast as I can and then burping into the dB meter.

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