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phib
Original Poster
2,488 posts
128 months
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rlw
2,176 posts
106 months
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This, I suspect, will show why these projects are not a great idea unless you keep the car for ten years or more. £47,500 for an old 993 with a rebuilt engine is not going to be pulling the punters in is it?
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BertBert
7,044 posts
80 months
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rlw said: This, I suspect, will show why these projects are not a great idea unless you keep the car for ten years or more. £47,500 for an old 993 with a rebuilt engine is not going to be pulling the punters in is it? Maybe not, but you only need one person who wants it. There's a reasonably well defined market for 2.7RS Reps (whether you agree with the pricing or not) with enough around to establish the kinds of prices people will pay. Whether 47.5k is right for the 993, only time will tell. Bert
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phib
Original Poster
2,488 posts
128 months
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I have to say at £47k it's a lot there's another one without the engine that's been around at 26k for a while not sure if it ever sells or is just doing the round of dealers, seems to be for sale every 6 months really quite like it though
Reps are an interesting one, the problem is with them that you usually build them to what you want and then every other bugger wants something different and they become hard to sell.
At that kind of money I feel it's quite close to a real 964rs an that would be where my money would probably go
Phib
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jackal
9,758 posts
151 months
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"This car, which is basically as close as I think you could get to an original 993 RS if you were building one from a Carrera 2 donor car"
Interesting car but with no mention of RS top mounts, RS wishbones, RS rear A arms, Kinematic arms, RS tie rods, RS wheel carriers and also the wrong brakes on the rear I have to strongly disagree with the above. In fact, throw in the KW CS whose spring rates are many hundreds of lb more than a stock RS and this car won't drive anything like the real thing as far as suspension is concerned. Still, i wish the owner good luck, that is one hell of a low mileage. A true RS replica involves dozens and dozens of different items, the list never ends.
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Crimp a Length!
4,728 posts
92 months
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Good luck with the sale looks nice and would sell if it was priced right (late 20's early 30's)
Silly money when you can buy some serious genuine stuff for similar value
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mudy
410 posts
41 months
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Prior to (admittedly) rather extensive top and bottom rebuild the car had done 100,000 miles so not really accurate to only include the mileage since rebuild surely?
For me that's a 110k car
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Steve Rance
2,402 posts
100 months
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The killer for the seller is the cost of the 3.8 upgrade. My 993 has a 3.8 cup spec engine and the cost of the internals alone was well over 10k without build costs. I can see why he's pitched the price where he has. It is the biggest single cost of a true RS rep and very few reps will have a 3.8 fitted. I bought my car because it had a fresh 3.8 fitted, and my intention was always to build an exact Club sport spec with FIA papers so that I could eventually race it in historics. It was therefore essential that the engine spec was correct. If I were building a road RS rep, I think that I'd probably put my money into the other required mods that Jackal has already mentioned before I went for a 3.8 because pound for pound they would probably deliver a closer RS feel. On saying that, I congratulate the seller on speccing the 3.8, it will always be a rare car because of it and the whole job seems very tastefully done. I wish him all the very best in selling it.
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pete
953 posts
153 months
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I suspect it's priced the way it is because that was more or less what it sold for at JZM earlier in the year. If its the same car I saw, it is absolutely bl**dy lovely, and whether it's an accurate RS replica or not, it's immensely desirable in the metal. You can't put a price on awesomeness ;-)
Pete
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Slippydiff
5,035 posts
92 months
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Advert said: Prior To Rebuild The Last Service Was Carried Out in October 2010 @ 100,219 Miles. jackal said: That is one hell of a low mileage. 
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ttdan
436 posts
62 months
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Slippydiff said: Advert said: Prior To Rebuild The Last Service Was Carried Out in October 2010 @ 100,219 Miles. jackal said: That is one hell of a low mileage. Has the speedo been replaced too then?
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phib
Original Poster
2,488 posts
128 months
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Crickey , I know buy on condition but a 110k c2 for 47k sounds a lot
Phib
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jackal
9,758 posts
151 months
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mudy said: Prior to (admittedly) rather extensive top and bottom rebuild the car had done 100,000 miles so not really accurate to only include the mileage since rebuild surely?
For me that's a 110k car Woops, sorry my mistake, i didnt seethat bit.
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jackal
9,758 posts
151 months
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Steve Rance said: The killer for the seller is the cost of the 3.8 upgrade. My 993 has a 3.8 cup spec engine and the cost of the internals alone was well over 10k without build costs. I can see why he's pitched the price where he has. It is the biggest single cost of a true RS rep and very few reps will have a 3.8 fitted. I bought my car because it had a fresh 3.8 fitted, and my intention was always to build an exact Club sport spec with FIA papers so that I could eventually race it in historics. It was therefore essential that the engine spec was correct. If I were building a road RS rep, I think that I'd probably put my money into the other required mods that Jackal has already mentioned before I went for a 3.8 because pound for pound they would probably deliver a closer RS feel. On saying that, I congratulate the seller on speccing the 3.8, it will always be a rare car because of it and the whole job seems very tastefully done. I wish him all the very best in selling it. One day i'll plonk one in mine for sure. I won't be expecting it to make a lot of difference though. What do you think you can NA tune the 3.8 to Steve ? There was a high miles basic 993 with a 3.8 that sold cheap recently. Buying that then doing a quick transplant would be an interesting way of getting hold of one from a financial point of view.
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ras62
262 posts
25 months
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To change from 3.6 to 3.75! costs around £3.5k above a normal rebuild, that is a lot of money for 150cc. If your 3.6 barrels & pistons are not reusable the cost is essentially nil. The 3.8 hype is a little silly imo, there are better ways to spend money. As for this particular car the RS link is pushing things but I am sure it would be a nice car. See what it and an RS are worth with a further 20k miles under the wheels...
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Steve Rance
2,402 posts
100 months
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Mmm. With a decent remap you will get about 320bhp. If you fit Motec you'll get 20 or 30 more and if you change to the RSR injection system probably around 360ish. That's a lot of cost for the bhp though. The neinmeister lads billet heads are worth a look but when you add all that to the cost of a 3.8 it's a he'll of a lot of money. To me, the 3.8 doesn't feel a lot quicker than the 3.6. Not 15k quicker anyway.... Bit more torque but it's not light and day
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ras62
262 posts
25 months
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Steve, of course 150cc extra will never be night and day, and all those mods mentioned work on a 3.6 just as well as a 3.8... good luck and enjoy if a 3.8 conversion if it's a must have but I dont subscribe to it being a worthwhile bang/buck necessity.
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Redarress
338 posts
76 months
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Does look fantastic but if you think about the price 996RS are heading I think I would pay a little more to have a long term appreciating assets rather than this which I feel will not stand as well.
Having said that and having had expensive bills on the 993RS I owned I can understand why the current car is so priced. Y it's owner
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mrdemon
3,011 posts
134 months
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Makes a 996GT3 seem cheap.
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Steve Rance
2,402 posts
100 months
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ras62 said: Steve, of course 150cc extra will never be night and day, and all those mods mentioned work on a 3.6 just as well as a 3.8... good luck and enjoy if a 3.8 conversion if it's a must have but I dont subscribe to it being a worthwhile bang/buck necessity. Yep. That's my point. It's not. There are many other RS mods that are far cheaper and more effective.
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