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burwoodman
Original Poster
1,257 posts
116 months
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Anyone know when the order book opens? Wanted to get one or my wife.Given a decent spec Cayenne is about £60k, I presume a similar spec Macan would be circa £52k ish.
Any info greatly appreciated.
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Zyp
5,784 posts
59 months
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I'd be surprised if Phooey doesn't order one. It's been a few months since he changed a car  I'll certainly be looking at them in 12 months time if they're out by then, as a replacement for the wife's Alpina. Production sometime in 2013, according to this - http://www.topspeed.com/cars/porsche-macan/ke2674....
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DSM2
3,624 posts
70 months
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Wouldn't the Q5 be a better bet given Audi's arguably superior reputation for quality and service?
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Zyp
5,784 posts
59 months
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DSM2 said: Wouldn't the Q5 be a better bet given Audi's arguably superior reputation for quality and service? Who knows? The Macan isn't here yet, and I've never had a problem with Porsche quality and service so far. But, there's just something about Audi that I don't like.
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DSM2
3,624 posts
70 months
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Zyp said: DSM2 said: Wouldn't the Q5 be a better bet given Audi's arguably superior reputation for quality and service? Who knows? The Macan isn't here yet, and I've never had a problem with Porsche quality and service so far. But, there's just something about Audi that I don't like. But the Macan is just a Porsche version of the Q5.
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Zyp
5,784 posts
59 months
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No it's not. The Cayenne is, the Macan will be Q3 size. And a car with an Audi badge on the front is the last car my wife would have or want. 
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burwoodman
Original Poster
1,257 posts
116 months
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I'm pretty sure the Macan is q5 size. Cayenne is q7 chassis albeit not as long overall.
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DSM2
3,624 posts
70 months
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Zyp said: No it's not. The Cayenne is, the Macan will be Q3 size. And a car with an Audi badge on the front is the last car my wife would have or want. Oh really? You sure? I understood the Macan was based on Q5 and the Cayenne is surely based on the Tuareg isn't it? Anyway, doesn't matter, you and your wife clearly buy badges, not cars.
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Biggriff
1,902 posts
154 months
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burwoodman
Original Poster
1,257 posts
116 months
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DSM2 said: Oh really? You sure?
I understood the Macan was based on Q5 and the Cayenne is surely based on the Tuareg isn't it?
Anyway, doesn't matter, you and your wife clearly buy badges, not cars. Notwithstanding the badge bit-agreed 
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Mutema
330 posts
20 months
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burwoodman said: Anyone know when the order book opens? Wanted to get one or my wife.Given a decent spec Cayenne is about £60k, I presume a similar spec Macan would be circa £52k ish.
Any info greatly appreciated. My dealer said sometime this year. I was waiting for one for my wife as well and ended up buying a high spec VW Tiguan instead which I have been very pleased with. Had a cursory glance at the Q5 but didn't like the styling or the whole Audi image. If you can't wait, I'd recommend it as an alternative.
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burwoodman
Original Poster
1,257 posts
116 months
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Mutema said: My dealer said sometime this year. I was waiting for one for my wife as well and ended up buying a high spec VW Tiguan instead which I have been very pleased with. Had a cursory glance at the Q5 but didn't like the styling or the whole Audi image. If you can't wait, I'd recommend it as an alternative. She has a Tiguan currently-loves it. The issue with Mrs B is she won't even consider anything 'big'. The Tiguan is a very good car but it is very short on power and where we live, rural B roads, you do need plenty of power to go for that overtake. I thought of a 3.0 Q5 but as the Macan is coming out, at which point the current car will be almost 3 years old I figured it would be perfect.
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I_Want_That_One
93 posts
78 months
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What is the 'Audi image' these days? Has it taken over from BMW as being driven by people that try rubbing the paint off your back bumper with their front number plate on the motorway? I remember the typical BMW driver having their obligatory fog lamps on 24/7, albeit this has now been replaced by Audi drivers and their LED daytime running lights on causing retinal burning in one's rear view mirror.....
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I_Want_That_One
93 posts
78 months
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Anyway, back to topic. The spy pics of the new Macan look pretty tempting as a sensibly sized, fun to drive, family wagon. Just don't want to end up like all the footballer's wives around here driving Evoques 
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Geneve
2,725 posts
89 months
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This is not just 'badge engineering'.
Porsche may share the Audi/VW platforms, but they are substantially re-developed at Weissach, specifically to optimise the chassis dynamics, and give the product a Porsche identity.
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burwoodman
Original Poster
1,257 posts
116 months
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I_Want_That_One said: Anyway, back to topic. The spy pics of the new Macan look pretty tempting as a sensibly sized, fun to drive, family wagon. Just don't want to end up like all the footballer's wives around here driving Evoques For me, I don't care if 'everyone' has one. I hear the Evoque is a very good car but it doesn't suit my requirements. It's a coupe masquerading as a mid size SUV and doesn't have any performance in Diesel format.
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DSM2
3,624 posts
70 months
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Geneve said: This is not just 'badge engineering'.
Porsche may share the Audi/VW platforms, but they are substantially re-developed at Weissach, specifically to optimise the chassis dynamics, and give the product a Porsche identity. I wold question your use of the word 'optimise' but agree the different brands will be different. How much that matters in this class is also debatable, IMO, but then I'm one who thinks Porsche should stick to building sports cars not everyday hacks.
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burwoodman
Original Poster
1,257 posts
116 months
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You're being very unfair. Who wouldn't capture the market? I'd hardly call a cayenne a hack. Class leading is about right. A one trick pony can't cut it anymore. You want great 911 variants-you make other cars. This topic has been done to death!
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I_Want_That_One
93 posts
78 months
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What can be deemed a sports car? if it's fun to drive, has dynamic handling that outshines the competition, enough performance to put a smile on your face and looks good then does it need to be packaged in a two-door body? The boundaries are being blurred. If a Panamera Turbo can post the same Nurgurgring lap time as a Ferarri 360 Challenge-Stradale (7.56), what makes a sports car? Ultimately, we al know that a Panamera is a heavy car but FML is it fun to drive
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jackal
9,794 posts
152 months
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Surely you only buy an Audi if you can't afford a Porsche ? Can't think of any other reason.
Why have an A4 when you can have a Panamera, a 997 instead of a TT, an intergalactic Cayenne Turbo instead of a wallowy old Q7.
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