SRS light on at MOT time
Discussion
Did the rules come into force to stop cars being MOTd with many and various warning lights showing?
Shed MOT is booked for Friday and the airbag light has come on. Code reader says airbag module fault and although it clears the code it only stays clear for 5 minutes or so - not long enough to get through the test.
Brilliant timing...
Shed MOT is booked for Friday and the airbag light has come on. Code reader says airbag module fault and although it clears the code it only stays clear for 5 minutes or so - not long enough to get through the test.
Brilliant timing...
Edited by 6fire on Wednesday 5th September 16:28
TheEnd said:
The amazing bit is you can remove the bulb, so there is no evidence of a fault, and the car will pass.
I once removed the dashboard from a modern(ish) car to repair a fault. Never again, I'd rather replace the airbag module under the seat than do that again just to take the bulb out!LuS1fer said:
'm sure I read they were going to use discretion until 1st September. If so, your bad luck is continuing. Ring a few MOT Stations and ask.
My usual MOT man is the epitome of discretion. He MOTs all my old sheds and 'classics' so he must be used to me.With a bit of luck he'll let it go then.
A lex said:
TheEnd said:
The amazing bit is you can remove the bulb, so there is no evidence of a fault, and the car will pass.
Nope, they are supposed to check that the bulb illuminates first.There are some clever people wiring in resisitors and such like though to fix that problem!
They have been messing around with the mot since the new rules were set in place the only new mot fail that is a common fail is ball joint covers being split. I work in a mot garage so see it most days.
Surely if your giving advise you have to know the answer to the question? Half the above posts are wrong, bulbs need to be present and work in the correct way, removing the bulb is a failure.
Well will be when vosa enforce the new changes, at the minute the special notices are just delaying these new changes.
Carl
Well will be when vosa enforce the new changes, at the minute the special notices are just delaying these new changes.
Carl
C. Grimsley said:
Surely if your giving advise you have to know the answer to the question? Half the above posts are wrong, bulbs need to be present and work in the correct way, removing the bulb is a failure.
Nope, you're the one that's wrong--Letter from VOSA.
"Thank you for your email enquiry dated 22nd August 2012, concerning an
airbag.
Until recently, the content of the MOT test was the domain of the
Department for Transport and is enshrined in legislation. The test also
complied with the European Framework Directive on 'Periodic Technical
Inspection' as the MOT test is known in Europe.
However, this Framework Directive was recast in 2009 (2009/40/EC) and
amended in 2010 (2010/48/EU) to include numerous new mandatory test items.
These changes are aimed at bringing the MOT test more up to date by
including the inspection of electronic systems which are now a fundamental
part of vehicle design. They are also a step towards harmonising the test
standards across the EU.
As an EU Member State, we are legally obliged to comply with this Directive
and to introduce the new test items by 2012. The reason that these new
items have since been 'deferred' is because there have been delays in
amending our domestic legislation to accommodate the changes.
Failure to comply with the Directive is not an option and would lead to
infraction proceedings being taken against the government, resulting in
fines, potentially running to millions of Euros and continuing until such
time as the Directive is complied with.
Whilst the Department for Transport would have commented on this Directive
on behalf of the government at the proposal stage, and may well have
opposed some aspects, we now have no option but to comply with the
requirements of the Directive.
In respect of the SRS (Supplementary Restraint System) warning lamp; a
vehicle will fail if this lamp indicates an SRS system malfunction.
However, there will be no MOT requirement for the lamp to actually work
once these changes become 'live'.
I hope this information has assisted you with your enquiry, but if you have
any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us again."
TheEnd said:
C. Grimsley said:
Surely if your giving advise you have to know the answer to the question? Half the above posts are wrong, bulbs need to be present and work in the correct way, removing the bulb is a failure.
Nope, you're the one that's wrong--Letter from VOSA.
"Thank you for your email enquiry dated 22nd August 2012, concerning an
airbag.
Until recently, the content of the MOT test was the domain of the
Department for Transport and is enshrined in legislation. The test also
complied with the European Framework Directive on 'Periodic Technical
Inspection' as the MOT test is known in Europe.
However, this Framework Directive was recast in 2009 (2009/40/EC) and
amended in 2010 (2010/48/EU) to include numerous new mandatory test items.
These changes are aimed at bringing the MOT test more up to date by
including the inspection of electronic systems which are now a fundamental
part of vehicle design. They are also a step towards harmonising the test
standards across the EU.
As an EU Member State, we are legally obliged to comply with this Directive
and to introduce the new test items by 2012. The reason that these new
items have since been 'deferred' is because there have been delays in
amending our domestic legislation to accommodate the changes.
Failure to comply with the Directive is not an option and would lead to
infraction proceedings being taken against the government, resulting in
fines, potentially running to millions of Euros and continuing until such
time as the Directive is complied with.
Whilst the Department for Transport would have commented on this Directive
on behalf of the government at the proposal stage, and may well have
opposed some aspects, we now have no option but to comply with the
requirements of the Directive.
In respect of the SRS (Supplementary Restraint System) warning lamp; a
vehicle will fail if this lamp indicates an SRS system malfunction.
However, there will be no MOT requirement for the lamp to actually work
once these changes become 'live'.
I hope this information has assisted you with your enquiry, but if you have
any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us again."
That's very odd as I had a citroen xsara Picasso in the garage the other day with no air bag light showing but the central display flashed up every now and then an airbag fault, obviously the customer had removed the bulb but couldn't disable the message.
Checking the manual says although there is no bulb it is not functioning as it should and once in force it should be a fail.
Carl
Checking the manual says although there is no bulb it is not functioning as it should and once in force it should be a fail.
Carl
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