Show us your toy (I nicked that one from a porsche thread)

Show us your toy (I nicked that one from a porsche thread)

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boxbox

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56 posts

141 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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Saw several threads like this in the Porsche section when I had one of those, and it was quite cool to scroll through and look at other peoples pride and joy...so lets see if it's as popular in the italian section of the forum. Hopefully I've uploaded mine ok othjerwise that would be a shocking start!



911Thrasher

2,573 posts

199 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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Good idea, I had mine on the Porsche forum, here is my italian diva. We call her the "Castafiore"

her best songs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPeiNrs_P6A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YOgtgrd5ww


at Clive's place taking delivery



home in Italy



Grand Saint Bernard pass




at the Opera, Le Mans

Relaxed

75 posts

248 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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OK, here we go then...



Cheers,
Ulli

Pork

9,453 posts

234 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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2007 Maserati GranSport LE. Essentially, my dream car - nero carbonio with beige

On the Andermatt Loop 12 months ago




and playing with photography at night, recently.



matc

4,714 posts

207 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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911Thrasher said:
Good idea, I had mine on the Porsche forum, here is my italian diva. We call her the "Castafiore"



at the Opera, Le Mans
Stunning! How are you finding it after the 911? I remember you saying you thought your last 360 was a bit fragile - just wondered if you thought the CS was better screwed together.

911Thrasher

2,573 posts

199 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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matc said:
911Thrasher said:
Good idea, I had mine on the Porsche forum, here is my italian diva. We call her the "Castafiore"



at the Opera, Le Mans
Stunning! How are you finding it after the 911? I remember you saying you thought your last 360 was a bit fragile - just wondered if you thought the CS was better screwed together.
As u know, sold my 997.1RS in May and picked up a low mileage CS late June (or let's say Clive www.mr911.com went to Italy to pick and drive her back to London).

NO REGRETS AT ALL (already driven 9,000km in less than 2months)....feels/sounds like a F1, especially in Race Mode.
What a car! Must be owned and driven - at least once in a life time if you can afford it.

More seriously on the highway it is as loud as the 997.1 RS at +100mph: a radio would be useless (i don't have one). So best is to cruise slightly under 4000rpm/90mph. Also very much depends on the road surface: good in France, appalling in the UK


In town, the box can be a little jerky in Race mode, so i guess Normal mode it is...no prob at all for parking and reversing: the clutch is smooth enough and the accelerator pedal feel as well. I didnt think I would bound that well with the F1, but it is actually quite good.
Two good points in town: suspension feels softer than the RS and the front spoiler doesnt catch every single speedbump or pothole.


B-roads and track, the car is clearly central designed, you never feel the back giving up like on the RS when driving on the hedge...it is very "progressive". I don't know if i would have been quicker around the track in the RS, but the CS felt definitely easier to drive.
The Ceramics even though much older than the RS ones felt as good. The pedal feel is good and didnt feel so much different from the RS, actually maybe slightly spongy (could be the brake fluid which wasnt "race" type as i had on my RS). But the stopping power was there: i did lap 7 x 30min without any fading or heating (it was a warm day out on the track, 27degrees).


Compared to the 360, it is a much nicer drive, the steering should be the same in theory as using the same parts, but somehow it feels much much better, of course lighter and less feedback than the porsche, but nonetheless a nice place to be. I guess this is due to the CS geo/suspension being different from the 360.
Also the interior feels so much more special than the 360, the alcantara/carbon mix just works wonders (especially in full charcoal w/ red stitching and not the typical red seats/lowerdash/upper steering wheel).


Conclusion: for someone like me who enjoys the car mostly in town and on pan european trips the car is really good - on par with the RS, ...actually maybe slightly better: the sound is to kill for.
As for trackdays, i'll probably only do 2 a year, it is very friendly and makes you feel like Alonso - really sounds like a F1 down the straights. Why 2 trackdays a year: because it is so loud, I wouldn't know where to take it!
If i were to track more often, the RS wins...unless you've got deep deep pockets (actually spent something close to 8-01kGBP on the 997.1RS last year for 7 trackdays and 17kmiles).




I'm a RS fanatic, but actually think the CStradale will stick around for a couple years.
Will only go back to RS once I have a kid, as will need the extra space (964/993 RS next) - and if lucky enough will own both CS and RS at the same time.


note: i remember when i bought the 360Modena, Clive told me it would last as i wouldn't like it and that within a couple month he would need to sell it again - turns out he was right: kept it one summer, did 10kmiles and wanted out of it as soon as possible. He sold it, and it was gone to Australia. I never thought i would look back at a Ferrari again.
He got me a 997.1RS, had an amazing year with it, 17kmiles of trackdays, surf/snow trips, commuting, etc. but Veronika never bonded with it (too much of the boy racer look)...and guess what Clive got me into a Challenge Stradale, said it was a total different beast from the 360 and really a keeper and i will not sell it any time soon: I guess he is right wink


matc

4,714 posts

207 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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That's a great write up, thanks for taking the time to post. I had my 360 at pretty much the same time as you and also sold it at abut the same time, also to Aus!

I've now got a 1 year old, so having to be a bit more sensible (C63 Coupe), but I keep hankering after another Ferrari....there's just something about them!

Granturismo Dan

48 posts

211 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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Stretching it's legs at Spa:


In disguise at the Lotus Festival:


My other toy:


At the beach in the South of France:

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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Granturismo Dan said:
At the beach in the South of France:
Ha! That is fantastically dirty!

The detailing chaps will be having spasms seeing that... hehe

justin220

5,337 posts

204 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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Lotus sticker! hehe

My old one.. I need another!




Cerbieherts

1,651 posts

141 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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Pork said:
2007 Maserati GranSport LE. Essentially, my dream car - nero carbonio with beige

On the Andermatt Loop 12 months ago
[IMG]http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm458/ImolaM3cab/Andermatt_Loop.



and playing with photography at night, recently.
Very pretty car. Really want a gransport, but budget means a 3200 beckons....

johnnyreggae

2,935 posts

160 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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911Thrasher said:
a keeper and i will not sell it any time soon: I guess he is right wink
So I guess its not yours on his site ?

Pork

9,453 posts

234 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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Cerbieherts said:
Very pretty car. Really want a gransport, but budget means a 3200 beckons....
thumbup I think its a great car, really enjoying owning it and would love to keep it for a very, very long time.

cc8s

4,209 posts

203 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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Granturismo Dan said:
At the beach in the South of France:
That is a cool picture and car! Is it a real Balboni?

sa_20v

4,108 posts

231 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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This thread is a great idea.

Here's my white 08 Gallardo Superleggera which I've owned for just over a year. I recently took the beast to Bedford Autodrome for a track evening and was surprised how differently it drove compared with the fully RWD cars I've owned (Exige/Aero 8 etc) - despite 70% of the power going to the rear. I'm currently considering removing the after-market bumper and the Lamborghini shields as they really split opinion.


LPleggera. by Alex Penfold, on Flickr


Bedford Autodrome Opentrack Track Day 17th August 2012 by Opentrack Track days, on Flickr


Bedford Autodrome Opentrack Track Day 17th August 2012 by Opentrack Track days, on Flickr

Video to demonstrate the beautiful exhaust and V10 bellow!
http://youtu.be/8D0vOOFVhIk?hd=1

ETA an amusing video:
http://youtu.be/eBwRyVFvdyc?hd=1

Edited by sa_20v on Thursday 13th September 21:46

Cerbieherts

1,651 posts

141 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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Nice! Even in superleggera Trim that must have felt cumbersome round a track after an exige?
Oh, and I'd leave the badges and bumper, it looks great!

andrew

9,967 posts

192 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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sa_20v said:
This thread is a great idea.

Here's my white 08 Gallardo Superleggera which I've owned for just over a year. I recently took the beast to Bedford Autodrome for a track evening and was surprised how differently it drove compared with the fully RWD cars I've owned (Exige/Aero 8 etc) - despite 70% of the power going to the rear. I'm currently considering removing the after-market bumper and the Lamborghini shields as they really split opinion.


LPleggera. by Alex Penfold, on Flickr


Bedford Autodrome Opentrack Track Day 17th August 2012 by Opentrack Track days, on Flickr


Bedford Autodrome Opentrack Track Day 17th August 2012 by Opentrack Track days, on Flickr

Video to demonstrate the beautiful exhaust and V10 bellow!
http://youtu.be/8D0vOOFVhIk?hd=1
you need a bigger rear wing if you're going to track it biggrin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI6jCh3IEt0&fea...

Stryke

635 posts

162 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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SA20:

You could always go to the other side and upgrade the rear. I found a company who do the LP570 rear bumper with the carbon diffuser and also the LP560 tail lights to fit the pre gallardo.

I personally like your front bumper.

Not too sure on the shields though.

Dblue

3,252 posts

200 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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911Thrasher said:
matc said:
911Thrasher said:
Good idea, I had mine on the Porsche forum, here is my italian diva. We call her the "Castafiore"



at the Opera, Le Mans
Stunning! How are you finding it after the 911? I remember you saying you thought your last 360 was a bit fragile - just wondered if you thought the CS was better screwed together.
As u know, sold my 997.1RS in May and picked up a low mileage CS late June (or let's say Clive www.mr911.com went to Italy to pick and drive her back to London).

NO REGRETS AT ALL (already driven 9,000km in less than 2months)....feels/sounds like a F1, especially in Race Mode.
What a car! Must be owned and driven - at least once in a life time if you can afford it.

More seriously on the highway it is as loud as the 997.1 RS at +100mph: a radio would be useless (i don't have one). So best is to cruise slightly under 4000rpm/90mph. Also very much depends on the road surface: good in France, appalling in the UK


In town, the box can be a little jerky in Race mode, so i guess Normal mode it is...no prob at all for parking and reversing: the clutch is smooth enough and the accelerator pedal feel as well. I didnt think I would bound that well with the F1, but it is actually quite good.
Two good points in town: suspension feels softer than the RS and the front spoiler doesnt catch every single speedbump or pothole.


B-roads and track, the car is clearly central designed, you never feel the back giving up like on the RS when driving on the hedge...it is very "progressive". I don't know if i would have been quicker around the track in the RS, but the CS felt definitely easier to drive.
The Ceramics even though much older than the RS ones felt as good. The pedal feel is good and didnt feel so much different from the RS, actually maybe slightly spongy (could be the brake fluid which wasnt "race" type as i had on my RS). But the stopping power was there: i did lap 7 x 30min without any fading or heating (it was a warm day out on the track, 27degrees).


Compared to the 360, it is a much nicer drive, the steering should be the same in theory as using the same parts, but somehow it feels much much better, of course lighter and less feedback than the porsche, but nonetheless a nice place to be. I guess this is due to the CS geo/suspension being different from the 360.
Also the interior feels so much more special than the 360, the alcantara/carbon mix just works wonders (especially in full charcoal w/ red stitching and not the typical red seats/lowerdash/upper steering wheel).


Conclusion: for someone like me who enjoys the car mostly in town and on pan european trips the car is really good - on par with the RS, ...actually maybe slightly better: the sound is to kill for.
As for trackdays, i'll probably only do 2 a year, it is very friendly and makes you feel like Alonso - really sounds like a F1 down the straights. Why 2 trackdays a year: because it is so loud, I wouldn't know where to take it!
If i were to track more often, the RS wins...unless you've got deep deep pockets (actually spent something close to 8-01kGBP on the 997.1RS last year for 7 trackdays and 17kmiles).




I'm a RS fanatic, but actually think the CStradale will stick around for a couple years.
Will only go back to RS once I have a kid, as will need the extra space (964/993 RS next) - and if lucky enough will own both CS and RS at the same time.


note: i remember when i bought the 360Modena, Clive told me it would last as i wouldn't like it and that within a couple month he would need to sell it again - turns out he was right: kept it one summer, did 10kmiles and wanted out of it as soon as possible. He sold it, and it was gone to Australia. I never thought i would look back at a Ferrari again.
He got me a 997.1RS, had an amazing year with it, 17kmiles of trackdays, surf/snow trips, commuting, etc. but Veronika never bonded with it (too much of the boy racer look)...and guess what Clive got me into a Challenge Stradale, said it was a total different beast from the 360 and really a keeper and i will not sell it any time soon: I guess he is right wink
Good write up Thrasher, kudos on 9000kms in 2 months. Would largely agree with most of that but I'm just in the process of doing the reverse so to speak myself.
Scuderia gone, gen1 997 RS arriving.
I loved the Scud in nearly every way but I found after 14 months and 8500 miles I just couldn't live with the bills, the anxiety of ownership and another imminent 4 month lay up frown

I've driven a couple of CS's and on the whole I think, not suprisingly, they are very much the same as Scuderias. Fabulous engines with wonderful sound, delicate precise steering and fantastic balance. Gearbox in the Scud is better in every way too and just about the best I've tried (Honourable mention to Nissan GTR box)
I loved the attention , eventually, after being embarrassed at first, the conversations I had and the doors that it opened but it felt too extravagant somehow.
Using it often and properly was a bit decadent and expensive in every way and I just felt that if I treated it as a toy , never going out on wet days (It was poor in the rain ) and never taking it out of the garage for 4 months last winter, it was a bit of a waste.
Being moaned at because of its lack of activity got to me in the end.

So after some consideration and an expensive jump into the wrong replacement, back to Porsche and more specifically GT3s.There's a robustness and sense of solidity in Porsches that Ferraris just lack. Its the ability to provide a similar sensation to a Scuderia or CS in terms of its performance, engine delivery and even noise (Still marvellous even if its all a LOT quieter). Even better steering and feel, fantastic damping and control whilst giving 30% better consumption, much reduced servicing requirements and the feeling that if it goes out on a salted road your not allowing rot to set in.
And the ceramics on a GT3 are much, much better than the scratchy, temperature dependent and hugely expensive to replace Brembos on a Ferrari.

Sounds like I'm being harsh. i don't mean to be. I would say the Ferrari (Any Ferrari) is more of an event every time you get in it and they are brilliant, its just I want it to be something I'm comfortable using more often, that offers better value for money , more hours of enjoyment in the winter and slightly less massive bills.

voicey

2,453 posts

187 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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Here's a couple of mine in action....







Link to the project thread on CS

Aldous Voice

Edited by voicey on Sunday 4th November 10:09