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Sir Bagalot

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3,123 posts

68 months

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Tuesday 18th September 2012 quote quote all
New for a 2012 MOT is

Doors

  • A rear door that cannot be opened from the outside using the relevant control is a new reason for failure.
  • Doors must be easy to open and close – hinges, catches and pillars will be inspected.
Now here's the problem. Friend has a Peugeot 807 with the automatic rear doors, and whilst both work neither of them can be opened by the external handle (obviously some broken part internally). Not a problem as they can be opened via the remote, or a button in the front of the car.

What will the tester say? Failure because if can't be opened from the outside handle? Or Pass because it can be opened from the outside via the remote?


Edited by Sir Bagalot on Tuesday 18th September 23:51

sherman

6,117 posts

102 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
I would say that is a fail as the police/ambulance in an emergency wouldn't have access from the outside.


If you take off the door cards it is probably one pin or spring that needs to be put back in. The broken part will be in the bottom of the door.


Edited by sherman on Wednesday 19th September 00:20

Toaster Pilot

9,920 posts

45 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
FFS they love adding stuff like this to the MOT to get more sheds to the knackers yard don't they - I once had a car with a broken rear door lock so it couldn't be opened from inside or out - the rear seats were never fking used anyway!

Could you weld the door shut to avoid this? hehe

RobDickinson

16,458 posts

141 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
Yes. what we need is more unsafe polluting sheds on the roads.

thescamper

755 posts

113 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
If it fails fix fit or take the back seat out!
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TheTurbonator

2,092 posts

38 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
Good job my friend doesn't have his Mazda 626 anymore. The back door on that was kept shut with a padlock and latch, Mr. Bean style.

Mind you his current car (a Scenic) has just got through the MOT when the rear suspension has totally collapsed, so it probably wouldn't have made much difference to him and his £200 MOTs.

Rovinghawk

6,296 posts

45 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
RobDickinson said:
Yes. what we need is more unsafe polluting sheds on the roads.
How does the rear door affect pollutants?

RH

Aizle

12,426 posts

62 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
If you remove the rear seats then you have to make the doors unable to open anyway?

Or has that been killed by these modifying regs?

randomman

2,116 posts

76 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
RobDickinson said:
Yes. what we need is more unsafe polluting sheds on the roads.
Didn't you used to own an RX8? Think that polluted a bit more than my 16 year old golf.

And speaking of the RX8's wouldn't it be hilarious if they were an automatic fail as the back doors don't open independantly of the front ones. Another poorly thought out rule with no real benefits.

thinfourth2

30,388 posts

91 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
I hope they define what a door is or allow a wee bit of intelligence/common sense

As many 3 and 5 door hatchbacks don't have any way of opening the door at the back from the outside

I can see a jobsworth MOT tester failing a car because you can't open the boot

Motorrad

5,230 posts

74 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
Rovinghawk said:
How does the rear door affect pollutants?

RH
+1 would love to hear the twisted logic behind that load of bks.

Absolutely no reason a catalysed petrol car 20+ yrs old that's kept in good running order would cause more 'pollutants'. In fact (as anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together would realise) as older cars are kept running they become more 'environMENTALly friendly' as it means huge amounts of energy don't have to be used to produce pieces of st like say, a Prius.............

RobDickinson

16,458 posts

141 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
Part of the MOT is an emission test right? Or have they dropped that?

MOT is a road safety and emission base level check. Unless things have changed since I was last in the uk.

Dr Interceptor

2,639 posts

83 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
Perfectly reasonable piece of legislation in my opinion.

If your friend is driving his 807 on a motorway and is unfortunate enough to be involved in an accident - trapped front seat passengers, and screaming rear passengers... the emergency services need to be able to open the rear doors straight away. Not to spend time searching for a button, key fob etc - or even worse, having to employ cutting gear to get in there.

Doors, if fitted, should function. Sensible.

Captain Muppet

8,085 posts

152 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
RobDickinson said:
Part of the MOT is an emission test right? Or have they dropped that?

MOT is a road safety and emission base level check. Unless things have changed since I was last in the uk.
But this thread is about if your door works or not. It's a safety issue, but has no direct link to pollution. A three year old car could have a broken door.

Spitfire2

1,370 posts

73 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
RobDickinson said:
Part of the MOT is an emission test right? Or have they dropped that?

MOT is a road safety and emission base level check. Unless things have changed since I was last in the uk.
Way to change the subject to avoid looking wrong ...... Fail

B16JUS

2,363 posts

124 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
Sticky pad and stick the spare remote on the side of the door thus making it button operated to open

Serin

114 posts

88 months

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Wednesday 19th September 2012 quote quote all
Im pretty sure it should be fine. As long as the front doors can be opened manually then the rears can be opened by reaching inside.

An example would be modified cars with shaved off handles. The front doors must have some switch or button to open them, (usually under the wing mirror a la TVR, but the rears can be blank completely!

Least, thats what I reckon....

Motorrad

5,230 posts

74 months

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RobDickinson said:
Part of the MOT is an emission test right? Or have they dropped that?

MOT is a road safety and emission base level check. Unless things have changed since I was last in the uk.
........and many so called old bangers with a faulty rear door could still pass those tests if the drivetrain is properly maintained. You're talking bks.

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