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kazste

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2,088 posts

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Changed my 1.8s for a newer shinyererer 1.6 loving the way it corners and can tell a difference with the lighter forged wheels but wish it had more torque.
Are there any options of remapping or such, I'm not looking for masses of power but I prefer the delivery of the 1.8 which was far lower down whereas the 1.6 is at least as quick but has to be revved high.

Any thoughts or ideas appreciated as said not looking for huge gains just a filling out of the torque curve.

Thanks for reading and have a good day.


321freeflow

182 posts

106 months

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kazste said:
Changed my 1.8s for a newer shinyererer 1.6 loving the way it corners and can tell a difference with the lighter forged wheels but wish it had more torque.
Are there any options of remapping or such, I'm not looking for masses of power but I prefer the delivery of the 1.8 which was far lower down whereas the 1.6 is at least as quick but has to be revved high.

Any thoughts or ideas appreciated as said not looking for huge gains just a filling out of the torque curve.

Thanks for reading and have a good day.
The factory manifolds are .....................umm, not the best design for torque. Short, small-bore 4-1 feeding a far too big (63.5mm) Cat pipe. They haven't even used the splitter plate from the N/A 2zz-ge Cat pipe.




Manifold on the left is from the 1.6ltr 1zr-fae motor - a disaster for torque! The one on the right is the 1.8S 1zz-fe - we picked up 15ft/lb with a proper 4-2-1 manifold for that motor and hope to do the same with this one.



kazste

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Thanks for the info, but please forgive my utter lack of knowledge. Will this increase torque across the rev range? I mainly do motorway driving in my car and even on a country road don't like to rev beyond 4k often would this be suitable for me? Again i dont know if this matters but i have the lotus induction kit and sports exhaust on the car (both added by dealer)

As an aside I am very glad you replied as, not wanting to sound too weird you are revered as some kind of god over at mloc in relation to your exhausts and definitely plan on adding one soon after hearing all of the good reviews and comments.


Exige77

1,554 posts

76 months

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Jim is a God.

The God of thunder and he does make exceedingly good exhausts.

Ex77

321freeflow

182 posts

106 months

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Exige77 said:
Jim is a God.

The God of thunder.

Ex77
Curries do have that unfortunate effect on me wink



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Defcon5

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76 months

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kazste said:
even on a country road don't like to rev beyond 4k often would this be suitable for me?
Are you sure a small NA petrol Elise is the right car for you?

321freeflow

182 posts

106 months

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kazste said:
Thanks for the info, but please forgive my utter lack of knowledge. Will this increase torque across the rev range? I mainly do motorway driving in my car and even on a country road don't like to rev beyond 4k often would this be suitable for me? Again i dont know if this matters but i have the lotus induction kit and sports exhaust on the car (both added by dealer)

As an aside I am very glad you replied as, not wanting to sound too weird you are revered as some kind of god over at mloc in relation to your exhausts and definitely plan on adding one soon after hearing all of the good reviews and comments.
A 4-1 manifold on an N/A car is usually a disaster for torque. The factory 1zz-fe manifold has a horrendous dip in the torque curve 3500-4500 revs and the 4-2-1 adds 15ft/lbs right there, where it's needed most on a road car. It's nearly the same with the 1zr and we'll have a 4-2-1 soon.
Thank you for your kind comments smile

kazste

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I understand where your coming from, but it's my everyday car with my last one doing 34k miles in 3 years mainly on the motorway. If I go for a drive I don't mind using revs and constantly changing gear, if I'm just coming home from work on the M1 I just want to be able to leave it in 6th but still have a decent amount of torque.
I understand that for the majority of driving I do I have the wrong car, but as I can only have one then I am happy to compromise for the rare day I have nothing to do but go for a drive in the country.

peter450

1,434 posts

118 months

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kazste said:
I understand where your coming from, but it's my everyday car with my last one doing 34k miles in 3 years mainly on the motorway. If I go for a drive I don't mind using revs and constantly changing gear, if I'm just coming home from work on the M1 I just want to be able to leave it in 6th but still have a decent amount of torque.
I understand that for the majority of driving I do I have the wrong car, but as I can only have one then I am happy to compromise for the rare day I have nothing to do but go for a drive in the country.
Why did you not stick with your old 1.8 or simply get a later one with lower miles?, other than a change to a less powerful engine and a restyle, the new car is more or less the same as the old one

kazste

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New car has a warranty, old one doesn't
New car has 3000 miles, old car has 35000 miles
New car does 45mpg, old car does 37mpg so petrol pays for payment increase.
New car rattles, old car rattles. Can't fix everything I suppose!


Seriously though I prefer the way the new car drives apart from the lack of torque where I would like it. This is why I am interested in changing the torque value in the lower rev ranges.

As for any other reason why I got a new one you could ask the same of anyone buying a new car, now back onto subject.

kazste

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Never say never but at the moment cost and performance (I'm still not good enough driver) is too much.

peter450

1,434 posts

118 months

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I'd save up for the supercharger, another 10hp is going to be hardly noticeable

icepop

916 posts

92 months

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I think I have the answer.

You went from a 1.8 engine to a 1.6 engine, and now you are probably going to end up, (after alot of input, and postulating, from various Loti's), spending £X bucks, to take your 1.6 engine, back to 1.8 engine spec banghead

kazste

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And?
Seriously though the new car costs me nothing extra as pretty much the extra cost is being discounted by the fuel savings as I do lots of miles.

The new car is a more pleasant car, it feels better built, it feels better to go round the corners, I prefer the way it looks, it has a warranty, etc. The only thing I wish for is for the torque curve to be lowered, not more torque or power just for a change in the engines delivery.

This is something which has obviously been an issue for others otherwise 2bular wouldn't of already been working on a fix.

By the way what exactly is wrong with me spending my money on a newer car and then upgrading it? I honestly do thank those who have offered solutions but there seems to be plenty who appear to think I'm an idiot for swopping the old car for the new one. Fair dues your entitled to your opinion as long as you never change your car and then upgrade it.

milesr3

132 posts

96 months

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Stick some v-power in it. It fattened the migrange in mine, sharpened the throttle response and stopped it pinking on the m-way (which is why I tried it in the first place).

kazste

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Will try thanks for the suggestion.
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