RE: PH2: MotoGP Japan

RE: PH2: MotoGP Japan

Monday 15th October 2012

PH2: MotoGP Japan

Cal thumbs a lift while Danny Kent cracks open the champagne...



Usually PH2 kicks off with MotoGP, but after the Japanese GP at Motegi we have to give a huge congratulations to Brit Moto3 rider Danny Kent. First pole followed by first win and to top it all off not only did he sign for the Tech 3 Moto2 team he did it all at Honda’s home track. Top work young man, let’s hope that Tech 3 can turn around the chassis over winter to give Danny a competitive bike.

Pedrosa victorious again in Japan
Pedrosa victorious again in Japan
MotoGP? Well what can you say? A hobbling Stoner made a reappearance at Japan but was unsurprisingly off the pace. Not only did this hamper his pace, it meant that he couldn’t challenge Lorenzo and therefore help his team mate Dani Pedrosa close the championship gap. A shame for the tiny (and usually miserable) Spaniard as well as race fans as Lorenzo looks like he is happily trailing Pedrosa home to get the points and therefore the championship. And who can blame him for that?

The Motegi MotoGP race followed form – Lorenzo and Pedrosa hit the front, Lorenzo leads, Dani passes mid-race and Jorge happily follows him home. Behind them Bautista, Cal, Bradl and Dovizioso were squaring up for what looked like a decent scrap after Ben Spies’ dismal 2012 season continued with an early exit. After stalking Bautista and sticking in some fierce moves in the closing laps, Cal looked on for his second podium of a cracking 2012 until disaster struck on his last lap and he ran out of fuel. Gutting, especially for his final points standings.

Moto2 and how the hell did Marquez not get nailed on the grid when he neutralled his bike on the line? Scary moments for everyone including the usually super cool Spaniard. But there is nothing more dangerous than a fired up Marquez and within a few laps he went from nearly last to top ten. At the front Scott Redding was giving it his all as usual but looked like he was struggling to hold the pace while Bradley Smith was forced to retire. Despite a comfortable championship lead, Marquez only knows one way to ride and with Pol Espargaro (his only title challenger) ahead the Spaniard still risked all to take the win. A lead of 53 points with 75 left to play for, the title is all but Marquez’, although that’s what it looked like last year…

Danny Kent makes it a British win in Moto3
Danny Kent makes it a British win in Moto3
Moto3 and once again great work Danny Kent. With six bikes all challenging for the lead, Kent hit the front at the right time after a cracking bit of last lap carnage. Would he have stuck behind his team mate and championship leader Cortese with the chance of a maiden win? Happily Danny didn’t have to make that decision and led Vinales home to take the flag while Cortese remounted to get a seriously angry sixth – dry your eyes son, you are still odds on for the championship.

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sinbaddio

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2,366 posts

176 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Was gutted to see Cal run out of fuel, was a cracking battle. Can't help thinking tho that he must've known he was getting low??

MissChief

7,101 posts

168 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Surprised about Cal's bike not leaning off to make sure he reached the end.

Also a prime and obvious example that Moto2 really needs a minimum weight next year. The other teams should be beating a path to Dorna's door to demand one. Either that or every team will want a midget riding for them as a big heavy guy will be at an immediate disadvantage and some good riders could be forced away to WSBK because of their size.

CocoUK

952 posts

182 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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I was not a happy bunny when Cals bike rolled to a stop, it would have been a cracking final lap battle.

Cals twitter did make me laugh though!
'To take positive from today I got to ride on factory bike! @lorenzo99 took me around t10 faster than I did on my own,ha'


MissChief

7,101 posts

168 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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olly22n said:
I could be wrong but I didn't think that Marquez was that light?
Official motogp site states 59kg although I don't know if that's helmet, leathers etc. Compared to Scott Redding at 74kg it shows what a huge advantage he has and what an utterly amazing job Scott is doing to get podiums and top 5 finishes. Sure Pol Esparagaro is only 1Kg heavier, but they're both at the front. Third place finisher in Japan Esteve Rabat is only 61kg also.

It also helps that testing in moto2 is unrestricted and Marquez's teams get 'preferred status' from the chassis manufacturer and always get the updates first. That and the team is well backed and has, at an unofficial guess, tested half a dozen times outside the races themselves. Sure a lot of those reasons are open to other riders but it still tells me that lighter riders give a huge benefit compared to heavier ones who need to work the tyres much harder to maintain the same pace, as shown by Scott Redding often fading towards the end of races having used his tyres too much.

Every other class has a combined weight for rider and bike except Moto2 that only has a minimum bike weight of 140Kg. An extra 15kg is a big difference! 15 bags of sugar at the top of the bike, all moving around?

RX7

258 posts

244 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Curious position to be for Lorenzo, pretty much knowing 2nd place will be fine for the rest of the season and unless Stoner returns to form very quickly from his injury 2nd place is probably the worst he will do, unless he has a really bad day at the office or is taken out at the first or second corner!

So with that in mind, if Stoner does return to form soon, will he "give" Danny a win at any stage?

CocoUK

952 posts

182 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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I wouldn't say so.
Stoners last season in MotoGP, a very competitive individual, nothing written in the contract, if he is half-way back to being match fit he will be gunning for a win.

If Danny wants the title, Danny has to work his bloody socks off.

RX7

258 posts

244 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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MissChief said:
Official motogp site states 59kg although I don't know if that's helmet, leathers etc. Compared to Scott Redding at 74kg it shows what a huge advantage he has and what an utterly amazing job Scott is doing to get podiums and top 5 finishes. Sure Pol Esparagaro is only 1Kg heavier, but they're both at the front. Third place finisher in Japan Esteve Rabat is only 61kg also.

It also helps that testing in moto2 is unrestricted and Marquez's teams get 'preferred status' from the chassis manufacturer and always get the updates first. That and the team is well backed and has, at an unofficial guess, tested half a dozen times outside the races themselves. Sure a lot of those reasons are open to other riders but it still tells me that lighter riders give a huge benefit compared to heavier ones who need to work the tyres much harder to maintain the same pace, as shown by Scott Redding often fading towards the end of races having used his tyres too much.

Every other class has a combined weight for rider and bike except Moto2 that only has a minimum bike weight of 140Kg. An extra 15kg is a big difference! 15 bags of sugar at the top of the bike, all moving around?
Not forgetting braking, the difference of that extra weight must be monumental. The commentators at the weekend were saying just the extra 4 - 5kg the 1000's carry over the 800's have impacted hugely on brake design. Hence why Cal's brakes were glowing at the first race of the season as he was still on the old disks!

decadence

502 posts

158 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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As usual the Moto3 race was stand out, Moto3 has been my favourite motorport entertainment this year, simply amazing stuff, every race plays out like a great film...oh and the Eurosport boys commentary is just outstanding as always...great season.

AndyDRZ

1,202 posts

236 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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olly22n said:
I see yoiur point, but he is 1kg heavier than casey.

After karting this weekend, I 100% agree with the minimum wieght, lol!
There was a tweet from Redding the other day saying he weighs more than that naked and weighs 87kg in his leathers.