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How do I tell a genuine Sapphire Cosworth shell?
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SambaS

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415 posts

83 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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How do I tell a genuine Sapphire Cosworth shell apart from a standard Sierra shell?

Any extra numbers stamped anywhere, or will the chassis number start with a specific number or anything?

I'm planning to build one from the ground up but it must be a genuine shell.

Thanks.

4key

8,602 posts

44 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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The 2wd ones are just ghia shells iirc, the 4wd ones had extra strengthening up front though. Would have thought that a friendly ford dealer could tell you for definate what a shell was from the vin numbers though, unless theres a bit of welding around that area smile

Eta, i think they have to have the automatic tunnel to fit the box in too.

As said, passionfruit is your best bet for info though.

Edited by 4key on Tuesday 16th October 12:38

RWD cossie wil

3,313 posts

69 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Get over to passionford.com, lots of useful info & buyers guides on there. They are identified by the chassis numbers specifically as genuine Cosworth, the chassis numbers should be raised like Braille, not stamped in.

Make sure you HPI it.

s m

11,686 posts

99 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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SambaS said:
Any extra numbers stamped anywhere, or will the chassis number start with a specific number or anything?

Thanks.
The Vin should have the BFGC prefix on

J4CKO

14,219 posts

96 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Lots of rust and many shaven headed geysers in RS puffer jackets outbidding you.

LuS1fer

31,990 posts

141 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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You should tell it in a soft voice so you don't frighten it.

AbarthChris

2,259 posts

111 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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LuS1fer said:
You should tell it in a soft voice so you don't frighten it.
hehehehehehe smile

Porkie

2,373 posts

137 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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J4CKO said:
Lots of rust and many shaven headed geysers in RS puffer jackets outbidding you.
LOL

Robmarriott

604 posts

54 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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s m said:
The Vin should have the BFGC prefix on
You sure about that?

I've just tried every sapphire cosworth I can find on the Internet on our vrm lookup at work and first of all, they all start WF0F, the bit which you reference is BFxx, xx being the build date, with BF being the model of car (simply, Sierra 4 door saloon)

Edited by Robmarriott on Tuesday 16th October 13:03

Robmarriott

604 posts

54 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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The vin code will be

WF0FXXGBBF then a year code, then a month code, the a 5 digit serial number.

The letter after the F will be a JKLMN or P.

LooneyTunes

3,601 posts

54 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Robmarriott said:
s m said:
The Vin should have the BFGC prefix on
You sure about that?

I've just tried every sapphire cosworth I can find on the Internet on our vrm lookup at work and first of all, they all start WF0F, the bit which you reference is BFxx, xx being the build date, with BF being the model of car (simply, Sierra)
Google "ford cosworth workshop manual" and you'll probably find a pdf out there... wink

Seem to recall there's a VIN breakdown section near the front.

s m

11,686 posts

99 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Robmarriott said:
s m said:
The Vin should have the BFGC prefix on
You sure about that?

I've just tried every sapphire cosworth I can find on the Internet on our vrm lookup at work and first of all, they all start WF0F, the bit which you reference is BFxx, xx being the build date, with BF being the model of car (simply, Sierra 4 door saloon)

Yes, I'm sure, the type stamp should be BFGC for a Sapphire Cosworth

Robmarriott

604 posts

54 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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See, I think BFGC only applies to 3 doors, as year letter 'G' is 1986


s m

11,686 posts

99 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Robmarriott said:
See, I think BFGC only applies to 3 doors, as year letter 'G' is 1986


You're looking at the ID string, not the type stamp

Robmarriott

604 posts

54 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Ah, I'm with you. So if the vin plate is missing and only the chassis number in on the floorpan, how do you tell?

s m

11,686 posts

99 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Robmarriott said:
Ah, I'm with you. So if the vin plate is missing and only the chassis number in on the floorpan, how do you tell?
I'd be wary if the plate was missing and you'd have to check to see what it was registered as originally. You could eliminate some shells on the spot by build date though

RWD cossie wil

3,313 posts

69 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Don't take a punt on a dodgy shell, plenty of good ones with proper history out there.