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nick_j007

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1,569 posts

88 months

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Tuesday 6th November 2012 quote quote all
Hi all.

My 111r has settled in well and I enjoy it after the 111s. It's bog standard albeit I've added a TRD airbox & filter and like the noise smile Brake pads are great and using Pagid RS42's all round.

I have a few hundred quid which I could splash on the car.

What would you spend it on? (keeping an SC aside;)

I am thinking:

Nitron Street suspension @ £625.00 (not sure if the ride will become too harsh?).
Tuneful exhaust (I'd like to add in a few lift-off pops and crackles but not go OTT re track day noise limits).
Not sure which exhaust is best either?
Overlooking the ECU upgrade as it doesn't provide more power, just comes lower down. My understanding anyway.

How much consideration should I make re the combination of the induction, exhaust and (if advised) ECU change?

A few things to chew over anyway.

ETA. I see the ECU upgrade adds 8bhp? http://www.hangar111.com/shop/555-exige-elise-111r...

Mine is an '06 111r.

Edited by nick_j007 on Tuesday 6th November 21:30

pthelazyjourno

1,623 posts

55 months

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Spend it on a carlimits day or track day tuition?

Wouldn't bother with the Nitrons unless your current dampers are shagged, unless you use it a lot more on the track than road.

A hard top was always on my to-do list.

New trim if the sills are scuffed/tatty? Retrimmed seats if they're starting to look their age?

Otherwise I'd probably go exhaust, it sounds like a sewing machine!

Exige77

1,560 posts

77 months

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Wednesday 7th November 2012 quote quote all
With out a remap you won't get any significant power gains on an N/A with new induction and exhaust.

Even with a remap it's not worth bothering with for the small extra power.

Cat Bypass will give you some better noise as will a 2bular back box.

The 2zz is already quite highly tuned so forced induction is the only way to go for more power and this is biggish $$$$.

Ex77

Sexual Chocolate

1,583 posts

30 months

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Wednesday 7th November 2012 quote quote all
I had the ecu change done on my Exige. Transformed the car in my opinion.

Exige77

1,560 posts

77 months

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Wednesday 7th November 2012 quote quote all
Lower Cam change is better and a worthwhile change.

It's pretty cheap now as well.

Ex77
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nick_j007

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Wednesday 7th November 2012 quote quote all
Exige77 said:
Lower Cam change is better and a worthwhile change.

It's pretty cheap now as well.

Ex77
Where do you suggest I get that from please?

nick_j007

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Wednesday 7th November 2012 quote quote all
Exige77 said:
With out a remap you won't get any significant power gains on an N/A with new induction and exhaust.

Even with a remap it's not worth bothering with for the small extra power.

Cat Bypass will give you some better noise as will a 2bular back box.

The 2zz is already quite highly tuned so forced induction is the only way to go for more power and this is biggish $$$$.

Ex77
Remap seems to offer an extra 8Bhp...not worth the bother then?

Stick with the basics as suggested re driver tuition and general upkeep?

What I'd really like is the Komotec SC, but then I start getting into BIG money territory and would probably rather get an SC model.

JackR

13 posts

54 months

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Wednesday 7th November 2012 quote quote all
Hi,
2007 R owner here. My car has stiffer engine mounts, PiperX induction, Lotus Stage 2 exhaust, Essex Autosport re-map to lower the cam-change. I will change the exhaust to a 2bular/Hangar111/Larini to reduce the drone shortly. Otherwise very happy with it. I also have a 4-2-1 and sports cat in the shed which I may re-fit when I get the new exhaust. It was too loud with the stage 2 although it did rev more freely and seemed to improve mid-range power. No evidence to back that up though.
I've had the car 4 years now, still loving it and not felt the need to change it for anything else.

Exige77

1,560 posts

77 months

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Wednesday 7th November 2012 quote quote all
nick_j007 said:
Exige77 said:
Lower Cam change is better and a worthwhile change.

It's pretty cheap now as well.

Ex77
Where do you suggest I get that from please?
Try Essex Autosport. http://www.essexautosport.com/content/contact.html

Ex77

nick_j007

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1,569 posts

88 months

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Wednesday 7th November 2012 quote quote all
Exige77 said:
Thanks, I'll give em a ring later.

nick

21TonyK

2,945 posts

95 months

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Thursday 8th November 2012 quote quote all
ECU flash to lower the cam change is well worth it but the best upgrade I've done for the money was powerflex engine mount inserts. Improved the gear shift no end and made the car feel a lot more stable when cornering and braking, especially on track.

otolith

25,800 posts

90 months

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Thursday 8th November 2012 quote quote all
nick_j007 said:
Thanks, I'll give em a ring later.
How much are they currently quoting for just the remap? I think the performance figures they quote include induction and manifold changes.


Alfa numeric

2,678 posts

65 months

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Thursday 8th November 2012 quote quote all
I'm contemplating something similar for my 111r in the new year- what are the insurance implications of the airbox and ECU flash?

otolith

25,800 posts

90 months

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Depends who you are with - my policy with CCI isn't affected unless I go over 200bhp. I told them about the 2bular and TRD and there was no increase (nor for the splitter). Shouldn't think the remap will make much difference either, it's mostly mid-range gains.

Alfa numeric

2,678 posts

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Cheers. I'll probably give my insurers (Admiral) a ring before I do anything to be on the safe side- 10 years ago a set of aftermarket minilites added 50% to the cost of insuring my Mini!

otolith

25,800 posts

90 months

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I bet Admiral want some more dosh.

They once put my insurance up because I declared the optional air conditioning!

nick_j007

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1,569 posts

88 months

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Saturday 10th November 2012 quote quote all
otolith said:
How much are they currently quoting for just the remap? I think the performance figures they quote include induction and manifold changes.
I was sent this:

Ronin N/A kit (excluding induction kit) £895.95 (I already have a TRD induction kit).
This includes a new 421 manifold, decat pipe & ECU reflash to suit.
The labour for this kit is £200.00

200 sports cat £249.00 (if supplied as well as the decat pipe for MOT purposes)
If fitted instead of decat pipe the charge for this would only be £199.00

Mil eliminator kit £15.95
Labour included in the kit labour price.

2bular rear exhaust box 8x22 H2 (track) £525.00
If fitted at same of above kit there would be no charge, although if fitted at a later date the charge would be £60.00

Engine mount inserts £35.00 for the pair
Labour to install both whilst undertray removed £90.00

Full engine mount replacements £89.00 for the pair
Labour to install both £180.00

Custom remapping on the dyno £295.00

Ronin S/c kit £3495.00 fully fitted

All price are plus VAT.

What does bother me a bit re the decat thing is that I'd have to swap it over each MOT? Anyone with experience on that? My guy might overlook it, but presumably it comes up on the db test?

otolith

25,800 posts

90 months

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Saturday 10th November 2012 quote quote all
Thanks - something to think about!

jfk01

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70 months

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That is something only you and your mot tester need know about..
Having been going to the same tester for 15 years... an element of mutual trust develops ..
....
Mot guy must keep his license..
Mot guy must trust his customer to take the fall if needed ..
Takes a long time does trust ,and, it's easily lost in this regulatory world we live in!

nick_j007

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Sunday 11th November 2012 quote quote all
jfk01 said:
That is something only you and your mot tester need know about..
Having been going to the same tester for 15 years... an element of mutual trust develops ..
....
Mot guy must keep his license..
Mot guy must trust his customer to take the fall if needed ..
Takes a long time does trust ,and, it's easily lost in this regulatory world we live in!
Appreciate the comments thanks. I think I could sort it at my man's MOT centre. He tracks an R1 bike and we always talk bhp when together. Is there not a test though that takes the db reading and it ends up on the read out?

ETA. It's not just the volume though is it with decats? It's emissions too?

Thanks again.
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