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996ttalot

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First set of testing was done with our new 9E20 package at Brunters yesterday. No run off area so couldn't push much more, but she will be quicker. 225mph dash, 213.7gps verified.





Ken


911Viking

214 posts

28 months

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[quote=996ttalot]First set of testing was done with our new 9E20 package at Brunters yesterday. No run off area so couldn't push much more, but she will be quicker. 225mph dash, 213.7gps verified.


Until I had you guys taking over tuning of my 911T, I always argued that all my cars were slow. I think different now, this car is seriously quick. In a straight line, its beyond quick, but the drivability is surprisingly good despite the enormous power at any rpm. Now I wonder how quick it can go on Bruntingthorpe once the final map is ready but more importantly, I wonder how quick it can get around the Ring.

Had a cute little incident yesterday evening when cruising through Belgium at 140/150 kph. Was challenged by a Gallardo, you cant imagine how bad that went for the poor Lambo chap. Would expect him to be in the garage today arguing his car being broken, hahaha

CK_N4S

458 posts

66 months

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Just remember Viking, there is a lot more to 'Ring times, than just brute force.

It's really only over Flugplatz down into Schwedenkreuz and up Kesselchen that big power numbers make a significant change to your laptime - and the run to SX is downhill meaning the gain is not as noticeable as it could be.

I'll take a bit more time getting used to my GT3 around there before starting upgrades and possibly power.

Anyway, I for one am looking forward to a video fo your car there smile Any dates planned for 2013?

CK

911Viking

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CK_N4S said:
Just remember Viking, there is a lot more to 'Ring times, than just brute force.

It's really only over Flugplatz down into Schwedenkreuz and up Kesselchen that big power numbers make a significant change to your laptime - and the run to SX is downhill meaning the gain is not as noticeable as it could be.

I'll take a bit more time getting used to my GT3 around there before starting upgrades and possibly power.

Anyway, I for one am looking forward to a video fo your car there smile Any dates planned for 2013?

CK
Agree Carsten, I don't actually expect any wonders on the Ring, I am just curious. It's seriously difficult getting out of corners at decent speed without loosing grip. But on straights, its unreal.

It's not really that difficult to drive, you just gotta watch out when putting down power through bends. Boost is imminent, it hits so hard. When pointing straight and a little up in speed it grips and goes like a superbike. To give you an idea, Ken's partner Gary came by for a chat while we did the shake down on Bruntingthorpe Tue morning and took the car out for a few laps in light rain and did 209 mph down the straight while still making the turn. That's pretty amazing, step in the car and take it to 209 on a crappy surface in light rain on your second run ;-)

Haven't made plans for 2013 yet, but the Ring, Spa, Magny Cours and Zandvoort are definately in the cards. I live 1/2 way in between Spa and Zandvoort, so not much planning required... Will also do the Vmax days on Bruntingthorpe next year for the fun of it. Love the Vmax days, Craig gathers a cool bunch of cars and guys for a day of Brunters play around... Let me know when you are around and we can meet up.

When we get the car properly run in and the last little tweaks applied, we'll get GFW to shoot some nice photos and videos.

Cheers,
HH

GT2CS

371 posts

53 months

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great stuff guys. what do you think it will do the mile in when it's all setup, and 60-130?


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NIgt3

266 posts

58 months

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Think i seen this car at Ken's place on Tuesday afternoon when i left my gt3 in, looks amazing in the flesh!!

CK_N4S

458 posts

66 months

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911Viking said:
Agree Carsten, I don't actually expect any wonders on the Ring, I am just curious. It's seriously difficult getting out of corners at decent speed without loosing grip. But on straights, its unreal.

It's not really that difficult to drive, you just gotta watch out when putting down power through bends. Boost is imminent, it hits so hard. When pointing straight and a little up in speed it grips and goes like a superbike. To give you an idea, Ken's partner Gary came by for a chat while we did the shake down on Bruntingthorpe Tue morning and took the car out for a few laps in light rain and did 209 mph down the straight while still making the turn. That's pretty amazing, step in the car and take it to 209 on a crappy surface in light rain on your second run ;-)

Haven't made plans for 2013 yet, but the Ring, Spa, Magny Cours and Zandvoort are definately in the cards. I live 1/2 way in between Spa and Zandvoort, so not much planning required... Will also do the Vmax days on Bruntingthorpe next year for the fun of it. Love the Vmax days, Craig gathers a cool bunch of cars and guys for a day of Brunters play around... Let me know when you are around and we can meet up.

When we get the car properly run in and the last little tweaks applied, we'll get GFW to shoot some nice photos and videos.

Cheers,
HH
Plenty aware the car is unrealisticly fast in a straight line - have only ever seen the vids from Brunthingthorpe though, so no first hand experience. But 209 is seriously impressive.

My fixed dates for the moment are Easter at the Ring and the Gran Turismo event at Spa.

I'm leaving for Nürburg next wednesday to set of my GT3 at Burgstube, and get it registered there. Saves me loads of miles, and gets me part of my Danish registration tax repaid. So should get more trips in next year, when the car is just there waiting for me smile

CK

davek_964

2,175 posts

59 months

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I assume that's not the real 0-60 time? My 964 used to manage that! wink

Bealo

24 posts

60 months

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Congrats, on an amazing speed, can't wait to see the full performance times some time soon.

996ttalot

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davek_964 said:
I assume that's not the real 0-60 time? My 964 used to manage that! wink
Lol Dave, it runs 0-300kph (186mph) is approx 18-19 seconds and 60-100 in 2.6 seconds. The car is so brutal that you don't need to floor it off the line and still hit a top speed as in the image above. We haven't done a lot of in gear acceleration figures because we were just running the car in for the first time at Brunters. Engine only has about 1000 miles on her and we only put boost through her the night before.

Ken

996ttalot

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GT2CS said:
great stuff guys. what do you think it will do the mile in when it's all setup, and 60-130?
We really didn't do any specifics other than running from around 60mph to top speed. I would imagine the 60-130 hook up will be in the 5,?? second range since we were running low 6 seconds at Brunters without testing for it and she is over 200gps in a mile for sure.

I can tell you one stat though - 200mph gps to 210mph gps took just 4.8 seconds yikes

Moosh

959 posts

105 months

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just love your tuned cars Ken. Very impressive top speed. Only wish I had a sack full of cash right now, I would be queuing outside your workshop with my trusted 996t. Keep us updated on the next lot of tests.

Moosh

959 posts

105 months

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out of interest 911Viking, how much has your insurance gone up with all the modifications?

RWD cossie wil

2,807 posts

57 months

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Damn I need a 911 turbo in my life frown

911Viking

214 posts

28 months

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Moosh said:
out of interest 911Viking, how much has your insurance gone up with all the modifications?
Insurance is a little different in NL where its registered. I insure all my toy bikes and cars in a pool deal, so I get some discount. The 9e Porsche is insured at "valuation" 125k Euros and cost me annually 2.1k Euros. Not bad in my mind and certainly the best deal I can get over here. As long as the car has been APK'ed (NL version of MOT) and is road legal, the performance doesn't affect insurance premium. I decided to limit the valuation to 125k Euros since I think I can do a copy paste of the project, should it go smash up or get stolen. The biggest headache would be the waiting time while we source and produce parts, its a serious effort building that car, not much of the original car is left.

I can't recommend 9e highly enough, those chaps are true petrol heads and seriously good at building quick Porsches. A few weeks ago I tried one of their smaller packages 9e32, trust me even that one is scary quick when sitting in the passenger seat.

Crimp a Length!

5,697 posts

107 months

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Lets see some footage of this beast then!

I take it its the GT which looks like a GT2.
I know Craig at VMAX says its a bit of an animal.
I'll have to come down to brunters and meet you guys.

Moosh

959 posts

105 months

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911Viking said:
Insurance is a little different in NL where its registered. I insure all my toy bikes and cars in a pool deal, so I get some discount. The 9e Porsche is insured at "valuation" 125k Euros and cost me annually 2.1k Euros. Not bad in my mind and certainly the best deal I can get over here. As long as the car has been APK'ed (NL version of MOT) and is road legal, the performance doesn't affect insurance premium. I decided to limit the valuation to 125k Euros since I think I can do a copy paste of the project, should it go smash up or get stolen. The biggest headache would be the waiting time while we source and produce parts, its a serious effort building that car, not much of the original car is left.

I can't recommend 9e highly enough, those chaps are true petrol heads and seriously good at building quick Porsches. A few weeks ago I tried one of their smaller packages 9e32, trust me even that one is scary quick when sitting in the passenger seat.
I am surprised that you can get insurance for the full value including the modifications. I can only get insurance for the lower second hand value of the car.

996ttalot

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Moosh said:
911Viking said:
Insurance is a little different in NL where its registered. I insure all my toy bikes and cars in a pool deal, so I get some discount. The 9e Porsche is insured at "valuation" 125k Euros and cost me annually 2.1k Euros. Not bad in my mind and certainly the best deal I can get over here. As long as the car has been APK'ed (NL version of MOT) and is road legal, the performance doesn't affect insurance premium. I decided to limit the valuation to 125k Euros since I think I can do a copy paste of the project, should it go smash up or get stolen. The biggest headache would be the waiting time while we source and produce parts, its a serious effort building that car, not much of the original car is left.

I can't recommend 9e highly enough, those chaps are true petrol heads and seriously good at building quick Porsches. A few weeks ago I tried one of their smaller packages 9e32, trust me even that one is scary quick when sitting in the passenger seat.
I am surprised that you can get insurance for the full value including the modifications. I can only get insurance for the lower second hand value of the car.
In the UK you can get insurance for our packages through a couple of places that will do an agreed value which is (Donor Car + Total Value of Upgrade - less labour). So for example if the Donor was 25k, Package £25k of which £5k was labour, then the agreed value is £45k. They (broker) receive full disclosed list of all components plus estimate of hp.

An example on say a 9E25 kit insurance is around 1k for 40 year old, garaged, Full no claims.

Got quite a few customers on this scheme. It was one of the first things we arranged when we started to offer our packages. It is not the same as say doing a stage 1 tuning. Then your insurance company is only going to penalise you.

Ken

Edited by 996ttalot on Thursday 8th November 17:02

996ttalot

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Crimp a Length! said:
Lets see some footage of this beast then!

I take it its the GT which looks like a GT2.
I know Craig at VMAX says its a bit of an animal.
I'll have to come down to brunters and meet you guys.
Guess what I forget to take...yep the go-pro. However we did do a few iphone videos which I am processing but they are not to the same standard.

At Vmax we will set up dash display videos etc.

Moosh

959 posts

105 months

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996ttalot said:
Moosh said:
911Viking said:
Insurance is a little different in NL where its registered. I insure all my toy bikes and cars in a pool deal, so I get some discount. The 9e Porsche is insured at "valuation" 125k Euros and cost me annually 2.1k Euros. Not bad in my mind and certainly the best deal I can get over here. As long as the car has been APK'ed (NL version of MOT) and is road legal, the performance doesn't affect insurance premium. I decided to limit the valuation to 125k Euros since I think I can do a copy paste of the project, should it go smash up or get stolen. The biggest headache would be the waiting time while we source and produce parts, its a serious effort building that car, not much of the original car is left.

I can't recommend 9e highly enough, those chaps are true petrol heads and seriously good at building quick Porsches. A few weeks ago I tried one of their smaller packages 9e32, trust me even that one is scary quick when sitting in the passenger seat.
I am surprised that you can get insurance for the full value including the modifications. I can only get insurance for the lower second hand value of the car.
In the UK you can get insurance for our packages through a couple of places that will do an agreed value which is (Donor Car + Total Value of Upgrade - less labour). So for example if the Donor was 25k, Package £25k of which £5k was labour, then the agreed value is £45k. They (broker) receive full disclosed list of all components plus estimate of hp.

An example on say a 9E25 kit insurance is around 1k for 40 year old, garaged, Full no claims.

Got quite a few customers on this scheme. It was one of the first things we arranged when we started to offer our packages. It is not the same as say doing a stage 1 tuning. Then your insurance company is only going to penalise you.

Ken

Edited by 996ttalot on Thursday 8th November 17:02
That makes sense. Sound like a great idea and peace of mind with an investment like this. Thanks Ken

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