RE: SOTW: BMW 540i Touring

RE: SOTW: BMW 540i Touring

Friday 9th November 2012

SOTW: BMW 540i Touring

A German V8 barge and an estate to, er, boot - Shed motoring at its best?



I once took a lassie on holiday to France in a press BMW 540i. It was in a happier time before the A26 Calais road became infested by speed cameras.

In common with all UK drivers let loose abroad, I naturally gave the car the gun at the first whiff of autoroute, but the look of helpless terror on my passenger's face as the BM effortlessly cycled up to its governed 155mph top whack made me think I'd best ease off. We spent the rest of the holiday wafting around on creamy V8 power, kicking back and taking in the scenery at more relaxed speeds. It was no biggie.

Classy colour, V8, MOT'd until next spring...
Classy colour, V8, MOT'd until next spring...
Several decades later, an older and in some ways even stupider man, I have had it explained to me that her expression was more likely to have been one of arousal rather than fear. If only I'd realised that at the time, my life might have turned out different. Not better, necessarily. Just different.

Thinking back, it seems incredible that such a fine package of power, civility and classic RWD handling could at some point be available for a measly three-figure sum, but that point has now been reached, and here's the proof in the alluring shape of PHer Stevie750iL's 540i Touring.

From a used ownership perspective, many reckon the E39 to be the best 5 Series of all. The Touring is a stylish and very practical derivative, and that 4.4-litre V8 engine under the bonnet offers 0-60 in six and a bit seconds, with few issues other than the odd head gasket blow. Post-1998 models like this should have the 290hp VANOS M62TUB44 unit rather than the 282hp B44 lump Stevie's giving it credit for. Most importantly, it's not the previous M60 4.0-litre whose Nikasil liners were nibbled away by naughty high-sulphur fuels.

Black leather classier than usual beige
Black leather classier than usual beige
Anything else to look out for in this imperious Continent-crosser? Not a lot. Electrics in windows and doors, missing display pixels, dash lights, that sort of thing - not exactly life-ruining stuff. The strip of green service lights on Stevie's car is a heartening sight, too. Depending on how you use it, a year's painless satisfaction should be well within its scope. If you must spend money on it, do so wisely. Here's a suggestion.

Even as it stands, this is an interesting car. That Royal Red is a classy colour, and quite unusual in not coming with the usual semolina leather that can look a bit, well, German. And that's interesting because the 'BMW Niederlassung Munchen' numberplate on this 540i could indicate that the first buyer either worked in Munich or was a switched-on Brit who'd worked out that big savings were to be made by buying beyond the shores of Treasure Island, as the UK used to be known.

Whoever the first buyer was, he specced the car sensibly. Stevie hasn't bothered to mention what appear to be rear parking sensors, which may be because they're in fact just perfectly symmetrical blobs of mud, or (more likely) because they are parking sensors but they've packed up. Assuming the loom is OK, diagnosing and replacing duff sensors is easy.

A few little glitches but nothing too scary, hopefully
A few little glitches but nothing too scary, hopefully
Historically, BMW seems to lose interest when it gets to the back end of its Touring models. The Blackpuddin family's 320d has had its fair share of tailgate gremlins. A quick cleanup of this 540i's contacts might sort its fibbing tailgate warning light, and if the inert rear wiper isn't just a fuse, 50 quid will get you a scrapper motor off eBay.

You may be wondering about '5 Series shimmy'. This is a known issue with a wonderful range of hopeful solutions. You can add weights to the insides of the wheels, or to both sides of the wheels. You can replace the brake discs with less warped ones, replace the old tyres with less square ones, fit new wheel spigot rings or replace the upper and lower track control arms.

Our man Stevie has gone down the latter route, which suggests he may have already gone through those other cheaper would-be solutions. There's no mention as to whether he's done the most popular Five shimmy fix of all, which is new anti-roll bar bushes and droplinks. Aftermarket ones go for about £150 a set, including polybushes, so there may still be room for improvement if you insist on being anal about it.

Received E39 wisdom however is that, no matter what you do, up to and including steering box replacement, you'll probably never quite get rid of that shimmy. So, if you're the kind of perfectionist who can't turn a deaf ear to the tiniest creak, rattle or wobble, it's probably best to avoid this Shed.
And, indeed, Shed of the Week generally. After all, true Shedmen have ears of cloth, feet of lead, wallets of concrete, and lips that curl at the merest mention of the phrase 'preventative maintenance'. That's something the previous fellow pays for.


Advert reproduced below:

1999 BMW 540i Touring. FSH. Taxed January 2013. MOT'd April 2013. Royal Red Metallic. 4 previous owners.
This is my third car which I never really use. I work offshore so it seem a waste of a really good 540i.
The bodywork is really good with some scratches consummate with age. there is no rust on the car and it looks really nice. Tyres are all good with plenty life left in them. It drives as it should no nasty knocks or bangs. Starts first turn of the key. Uses no oil or coolant. It does have the 50-60mph shimmy but only very slightly despite new upper and lower TCA's. It's had new rear suspension airbags fitted recently.

Spec:
Fully heated black leather sports interior.
Memory seats.
Multifunction M-Tech steering wheel.
Rain sensing wipers.
A/C ice cold.
Glass sunroof.
Electric steering wheel adjustment.
OBC
Dipping rear mirror.

Faults.
Rear wiper does not work.
warning message " Bootlid Open" Although it's not.
Slight shimmy at 50-60 mph.

£950 ono

 

Author
Discussion

richb77

Original Poster:

887 posts

161 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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The "slight shimmy" would bother me.

Not a great colour IMO either but its one hell of a lot of motor for the money.

BeirutTaxi

6,631 posts

214 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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SOTW keeps getting better and better!

The tourings are rarer than the sedans, which makes them more appealing in that respect.

Stuart70

3,935 posts

183 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Quality

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Ahem. This has been discussed on the smoker barge thread.

Click on the advert owner link, then look at the recent postings from the user. This car has issues smile

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Bit of a sale failure really. smile

PH really should do their homework with these things nono

Canningmister

33 posts

141 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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I can't help but think that the 4.4l lump in this generation of BMW seems a bit underpowered? Im sure they are under-stressed for the sake of reliability, but are they actually that fast?

louiebaby

10,651 posts

191 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Canningmister said:
I can't help but think that the 4.4l lump in this generation of BMW seems a bit underpowered? Im sure they are under-stressed for the sake of reliability, but are they actually that fast?
I don't have much experience of high powered motors, but mine will seeming hitch up it's skirts and hustle if asked. It's also very happy on the motorway at 70mph, barely ticking over.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

198 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Canningmister said:
I can't help but think that the 4.4l lump in this generation of BMW seems a bit underpowered? Im sure they are under-stressed for the sake of reliability, but are they actually that fast?
Yes and no. In reality 290BHP these days isn't much at all but then we've moved on so much in the passing years. At the time it was acceptable, no more.

I have the same lump in my 740i and it won't really set the world alight in terms of pace but most importantly it is quick enough. It has bag loads of torque and it's quiet at idle and extremely smooth. My 7er only feels lacking above 140mph, which is fair enough.

Dan_1981

17,389 posts

199 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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"Worst Car ever"

"Pile of poo"


Hmm possibly a shed fail this week.

richb77

Original Poster:

887 posts

161 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Dan_1981 said:
"Worst Car ever"

"Pile of poo"


Hmm possibly a shed fail this week.
Can i edit my original score. Not knowing of the "issues" mentioned. smile

Probably a very silly thing to do slag off your unreliable motor and then on the same site advertise it!

Howrare

304 posts

206 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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HAHAHAHA total shed fail. If the seller discribes it as the "worst car ever" and "Piece of dog poo" it must be very very bad.




big_boz

1,684 posts

207 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Some friend and i have just been discussing this very car...one of them is after a cheap estate to lug stuff in as he doesn't want a van....

Got to be worth a punt for that much money, the parts and scrap value must be worth enough to recoup any major failure worst come to worst....

CraigyMc

16,403 posts

236 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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louiebaby said:
Canningmister said:
I can't help but think that the 4.4l lump in this generation of BMW seems a bit underpowered? Im sure they are under-stressed for the sake of reliability, but are they actually that fast?
I don't have much experience of high powered motors, but mine will seeming hitch up it's skirts and hustle if asked. It's also very happy on the motorway at 70mph, barely ticking over.
290bhp is 290bhp whether it's made by a 4.4l V8 or a 3.0 I6 tuned the way they do them these days.

It doesn't sound underpowered to me, it just sounds like a low-stress engine.

C

Gorbyrev

1,160 posts

154 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Perhaps a donor shed then! If the engine is OK would make a funky powerplant for a Westfield Seight!

Canningmister

33 posts

141 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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louiebaby said:
I don't have much experience of high powered motors, but mine will seeming hitch up it's skirts and hustle if asked. It's also very happy on the motorway at 70mph, barely ticking over.
"Hitch up it's skirts" lol that made me laugh

bmthnick1981

5,311 posts

216 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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funkyrobot said:
Ahem. This has been discussed on the smoker barge thread.

Click on the advert owner link, then look at the recent postings from the user. This car has issues smile

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Bit of a sale failure really. smile

PH really should do their homework with these things nono
Indeed.

vendor said:
I sold my trusty reliable high mileage E39 523i (274k) and bought a 130k 540i Touring. Worse car ever! And I've had many, many BMW's! BUT this has by far been the worse. Auto gearbox issues, warning bongs, new hoses, coolant leaks, suspension problems.......the list goes on! Piece of dog poo.

Pick up my "new" E91 320d M Sport Touring tomorrow. Thank the lord!!!

Stevie.

Canningmister

33 posts

141 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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CampDavid said:
Yes and no. In reality 290BHP these days isn't much at all but then we've moved on so much in the passing years. At the time it was acceptable, no more.

I have the same lump in my 740i and it won't really set the world alight in terms of pace but most importantly it is quick enough. It has bag loads of torque and it's quiet at idle and extremely smooth. My 7er only feels lacking above 140mph, which is fair enough.
Don't get me wrong I have always loved the idea of an E39, I have just never been decisive enough on what engine. i always fancied a 530i M Sport manual, but I would love a V8 model. What sort of MPG would you normally see in the 7series? Low 20s? Are the engines relatively easy to maintain and service for the home mechanic?

TurboLizard

194 posts

207 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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This isn't a shed fail, this is the best SOTW ever! Simply for the comedy value of the current owner of the car proclaiming it as his worst car ever on this very forum and then lo-and-behold it ends up being the most talked about feature car of this week! You couldn't make it up! Might as well scrap it now pal! laughlaughlaugh



Edited by TurboLizard on Friday 9th November 09:29

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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German V8 estate for under a grand ? Yuk body colour but it appears to have avoided the 90's M-B tinworm and the inside looks clean ...

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/msn/CARS_popup.js...




drchris

318 posts

180 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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  • that sense of crushing disappointment.....
:-(

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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bmthnick1981 said:
Me too!

Money pit.