RE: PH Carpool: Talbot Sunbeam Lotus

RE: PH Carpool: Talbot Sunbeam Lotus

Friday 30th November 2012

PH Carpool: Talbot Sunbeam Lotus

This week's Carpooler says his hillclimb-prepared Sunbeam is the only toy he'll ever need



Name:
Fraser Jemmeson
Car:
Talbot  Lotus Sunbeam
Owned since:
August 1996
Previously owned:
Mk 1 & 2 Escorts, RS Turbo, Honda Integra, Astra GTE,

Engine has been tuned for hillclimbing
Engine has been tuned for hillclimbing
Why I bought it:
I rallied Escorts in my late teens and early twenties, so after marriage and a family I wanted to get oil under my fingernails again. I looked at Escorts as I knew my way round them, but then a friend at work gave me an advert from our local evening paper: ‘Lotus Sunbeam for sale - stripped but complete - £500’. The rest is history!

What I wish I’d known:
I knew nothing about the Lotus Sunbeam itself other than its success in international rallying, so I set to and re-assembled the car, replacing any parts I could. I got the engine rebuilt by a local guy I'd known for years then went in search for a new paint job. Big mistake! As I'd never done this before I should have taken the stripped-out shell to the paint shop first and had it totally restored before assembling the car. Joining the owners' club was the best thing I did - the help and advice they provided in those early years was priceless. A million thanks to them.

Things I love: 
I love taking the car to work or just out for a spin - most people just stare as they haven't got a clue! Travelling round on motorways, you get cars full of young guys taking photos, or kids taking pictures because their Dad knows exactly what it is. But in the paddock at hillclimbs or sprints, that's when you get swamped. I can't stop talking about it to people! I love owning the car, and I love driving the car - the smell, the noise... I’ll never sell it.

Fraser says he'll never sell it!
Fraser says he'll never sell it!
Things I hate:
I hate the perfectionists who comment about the grill badge not being right or the interior being wrong - this is my car and I love her as she is so get over it. I've never shown the car and never will. I don't care what anyone else thinks of her. It's usually the only one at club meetings with marked tow points and BARC badges. Then there’s my top cam cover – it will not stop leaking, no matter what fancy sealant I use or how extra careful I am fitting yet another cam cover gasket. I get some funny looks from people about the kitchen roll packed round the spark plugs!

Costs:
I'm lucky that the cost of running the car isn't an issue; even my wife Anne is very understanding. I run high octane fuel in the car and good quality oil, and I get most of my parts from the owners club parts guy. I find his prices very reasonable. If there’s anything serious, I go and see Simon at Quicksale Sports & Performance in Ferryhill, who knows the car well as I get it MOT'd there. He is into his classic cars and gave me the name of a better insurance company (thanks, bud!)

Fraser at the wheel
Fraser at the wheel
Where I’ve been:
After watching a pal speed-hillclimb his TVR, I thought ‘I could do that in the Lotus’. So I to that end, I set to improving the suspension and brakes. What a brilliant form of motorsport! After the first season I had the bug - all the promises I’d made to myself and my wife went out the window – I needed more power! I hillclimbed and sprinted the Lotus for four years, and only stopped because I had a couple of costly incidents which made me realise that one day it could end up being terminal. She's never been de-tuned, and it makes the summer days out even better!

What next?
After two hurried bodywork repairs between events, which were good but not perfect, the car is now going back to the restorers early 2013 to have new front wings and a front panel fitted, which will make it pristine again. I'll never sell the car, which is why I want to keep it perfect for as long as possible - I have so many used parts in the attic that they'll all end up on my bed one of these nights! Not only that, but my son Tom would probably kill me if I did - he can't wait to take the keys off me... for good!

Author
Discussion

FeelingLucky

Original Poster:

1,082 posts

164 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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IMO the grille badge looks just "Right"
It surely cant be a coincidence that the round hole for the Talbot badge fits just right can it?


Fleckers

2,860 posts

201 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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i remember a mates dad had one of these

slightly darker blue I think

was the days when we were in mk1 & 2 escorts at the low end of the scale, 1.1 just 17 etc and this sunbeam was a real cool fast hero's car


Dusty964

6,921 posts

190 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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Great car, I would love something like that.
Nicely written article- with completely the correct view- it's my car, done my way,for me. Hope it continues to bring you happiness, it's a lovely thing.



dave stew

1,502 posts

167 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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Wonderful car. £500! Wow, those were the days. Reminds me when I sold my restored RS2000 in bits for £2000 in the mid 90's...

Dave^

7,358 posts

253 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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james28

448 posts

203 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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Great write up great car always fancied one myself after 4 s1 rs turbos and an rs500 but never found one at the right price.The hunt goes on but a chevette hs is also on the wish list

james28

448 posts

203 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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Great write up great car always fancied one myself after 4 s1 rs turbos and an rs500 but never found one at the right price.The hunt goes on but a chevette hs is also on the wish list

simonpeter

188 posts

159 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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They should have called it the Sunbeam Sideways. Great fun, but you needed wipers on the side windows.

Munich

1,071 posts

196 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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Great car and a great way of using a classic.

s m

23,219 posts

203 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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Great write up. A friend built a works replica one back in the early mid 80s - took him a fair while to complete it and the engine wasn't quite the full works spec due to cost but it was still a fantastic thing - so rapid with 200bhp+

TGV

26 posts

137 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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brings back some memories in 1990 i had a MK1 Escort with a 2.0ltr BDA and it was all i went to work for.

but in a extended group of friends was a girl/horse that owned a talbot sunbeam lotus the car was as new har dad had prepared it for her (what a dad) all i new was i had to drive that car so one night i left my escort at home the talbot came to pick me up i drank 4 pints. believe me i need them to be getting into bed with that but i done the deed and got to Drive the Talbot a few weeks later and its something i will never forget, the car was so much fun and i didn't mind having to do the deed to drive what is a car that people of to day will never experience


the things we do!!!!!!!

DJRC

23,563 posts

236 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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TGV said:
brings back some memories in 1990 i had a MK1 Escort with a 2.0ltr BDA and it was all i went to work for.

but in a extended group of friends was a girl/horse that owned a talbot sunbeam lotus the car was as new har dad had prepared it for her (what a dad) all i new was i had to drive that car so one night i left my escort at home the talbot came to pick me up i drank 4 pints. believe me i need them to be getting into bed with that but i done the deed and got to Drive the Talbot a few weeks later and its something i will never forget, the car was so much fun and i didn't mind having to do the deed to drive what is a car that people of to day will never experience


the things we do!!!!!!!
Dedication to the cause! Sir, we approve.

MonkeySpanker

319 posts

137 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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Great car & nicely written. 'Back in the day' & all that these were rare cars even then. Well done smile

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

205 months

PH Reportery Lad

Friday 30th November 2012
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TGV said:
brings back some memories in 1990 i had a MK1 Escort with a 2.0ltr BDA and it was all i went to work for.

but in a extended group of friends was a girl/horse that owned a talbot sunbeam lotus the car was as new har dad had prepared it for her (what a dad) all i new was i had to drive that car so one night i left my escort at home the talbot came to pick me up i drank 4 pints. believe me i need them to be getting into bed with that but i done the deed and got to Drive the Talbot a few weeks later and its something i will never forget, the car was so much fun and i didn't mind having to do the deed to drive what is a car that people of to day will never experience


the things we do!!!!!!!
Just spat coffee all over the keyboard. Great story!

lawdevice

127 posts

184 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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TGV said:
brings back some memories in 1990 i had a MK1 Escort with a 2.0ltr BDA and it was all i went to work for.

but in a extended group of friends was a girl/horse that owned a talbot sunbeam lotus the car was as new har dad had prepared it for her (what a dad) all i new was i had to drive that car so one night i left my escort at home the talbot came to pick me up i drank 4 pints. believe me i need them to be getting into bed with that but i done the deed and got to Drive the Talbot a few weeks later and its something i will never forget, the car was so much fun and i didn't mind having to do the deed to drive what is a car that people of to day will never experience


the things we do!!!!!!!
Brilliant! This post has really made my morning.

R66STU

273 posts

176 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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TGV said:
brings back some memories in 1990 i had a MK1 Escort with a 2.0ltr BDA and it was all i went to work for.

but in a extended group of friends was a girl/horse that owned a talbot sunbeam lotus the car was as new har dad had prepared it for her (what a dad) all i new was i had to drive that car so one night i left my escort at home the talbot came to pick me up i drank 4 pints. believe me i need them to be getting into bed with that but i done the deed and got to Drive the Talbot a few weeks later and its something i will never forget, the car was so much fun and i didn't mind having to do the deed to drive what is a car that people of to day will never experience


the things we do!!!!!!!
Hahaha nice one..

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

226 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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Enjoyable write-up and what great car!! Nice one thumbup

RWD cossie wil

4,310 posts

173 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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Epic cars, loved them ever since the old proper top gear did a feature on them years ago. Nice to see it being used as well smile

aeropilot

34,526 posts

227 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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The old bus is looking good there Fraser, glad to see you've still got it, and are giving the old girl a good spanking on the hills biggrin


Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

242 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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TGV said:
brings back some memories in 1990 i had a MK1 Escort with a 2.0ltr BDA and it was all i went to work for.

but in a extended group of friends was a girl/horse that owned a talbot sunbeam lotus the car was as new har dad had prepared it for her (what a dad) all i new was i had to drive that car so one night i left my escort at home the talbot came to pick me up i drank 4 pints. believe me i need them to be getting into bed with that but i done the deed and got to Drive the Talbot a few weeks later and its something i will never forget, the car was so much fun and i didn't mind having to do the deed to drive what is a car that people of to day will never experience


the things we do!!!!!!!
This isn't that kind of Readers' Rides.