RE: You Know You Want To: Alpina B9 3.5

RE: You Know You Want To: Alpina B9 3.5

Thursday 13th December 2012

You Know You Want To: Alpina B9 3.5

An old-school M alternative with a huge slice of retro 'want' - what's not to love?



Alpina isn't the average aftermarket tuner. Over the past 30 years, it has forged a reputation not just for improving on already excellent BMW models, but for actually coming up with certain performance derivatives before BMW itself.

Take, for example, the M550d Chris Harris drove earlier this year. One day BMW will offer a 5 Series with its flagship diesel engine. Can't wait? Alpina has been selling the 350hp D5 BiTurbo since the start of 2012. The Z4 M Roadster wasn't introduced by BMW until 2006, but Alpina's 300hp Roadster S was first launched in the summer of 2003.

Chances like this don't come every day
Chances like this don't come every day
Of course, Alpinas can't match the pedigree of fully-fledged M cars. They are typically less hard-edged and, excepting the latest B6 GT3, don't have any motorsport history. But then the company hasn't prospered independently since 1983 by making sub-standard products, and the close collaboration between BMW and Alpina reflects the faith of the former in Buchloe to produce quality.

The 1981 B9 3.5 was Alpina's first 5 series-based car. It followed the B6s of the 1970s, which were derived from the E21 3 Series and offered up to 218hp. BMWs flagship 323i, by comparison, gave 145hp.

Three years before BMW's 535i made its debut, Alpina used its 3.5-litre straight six as the basis for the B9. The addition of a modifed cylinder head, a more aggressive cam, reprogrammed Motronic fuel injection and high-compression pistons saw power swell from 218hp to 245hp. The result was an E28 with a 150mph top speed and 0-60mph time in the sixes - five years before the M5 arrived.

Nowadays, the E28 flagship assumes a rightly deserved legendary status. Values are commensurately high because of this, with more than £20k needed for the best M5s. So where does that leave the Alpina? It isn't as iconic, and can't match the M-car's performance, but it's still highly capable, desirable, and perhaps even rarer than the Motorsport car.

But whilst some sort of parity between the two may be expected, the truth is the Alpina can't command the price of the illustrious M5. This B9 3.5 is for sale at just £9,995.

Unfortunately, this car's advert is rather lacking in detail, save for its very low mileage (82,000) and a few months of tax and MOT. Having said that, the supplied photos imply a great level of care. The black paintwork retains a fabulous lustre, the Alpina graphics look newly-applied, and the interior seems incredibly fresh given its 30 years of use. There seems little reason to doubt the vendor's claims of fastidious maintenance, and this Alpina seems to have led a cherished existence.

Typically, a You Know You Want To should conclude with a cautionary note, a prompt about an impending bill of giant proportions or a horribly difficult maintenance schedule. But given there are E28s for sale with 173,000 miles showing, there is clearly durability in these old BMWs.

There's been much debate recently about the future of BMW's M division. Interestingly, it seems unlikely Alpina's brief will alter significantly; just as it did in the early 80s with this B9, it will continue to offer intriguing M alternatives by enhancing standard BMWs. Long may it continue, especially if used values stay this low!


BMW Alpina B9 3.5 (1983)
Price
: £9,995
Why you should: It's a hugely alluring E28 M5 alternative at half the price and appears to have been cared for.
Why you shouldn't: Genuinely, is there a good reason to turn it down?

See the original advert here

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rtz62

Original Poster:

3,360 posts

155 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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Used to see these being test-driven around the Carlton Hill area of Nottingham near Sytners back in the day;
For some reason they have more allure to me than the M5.

TEKNOPUG

18,943 posts

205 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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Woof-woof!

V8 FOU

2,971 posts

147 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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YES PLEASE!!!! Proper car..... Somewhere near the power of a M635i too....
Very 80's stripes too.

Just read the ad.....

Crack Sensors? Obviously not for purveyors of recreational chemical substances....

Edited by V8 FOU on Thursday 13th December 13:15

rossub

4,440 posts

190 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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Mmmmm......glass and thin pillars driving

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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rtz62 said:
Used to see these being test-driven around the Carlton Hill area of Nottingham near Sytners back in the day;
For some reason they have more allure to me than the M5.
That would be when Sytners was situated on Mapperley Plains top (Woodborough Road)- the premises are still there but now occupied by a lawnmower sales Co. !

shoestring7

6,138 posts

246 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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Lovely.

I remember learning about roll oversteer in a 528i, this one must be a lot of fun in the damp.

SS7

jason61c

5,978 posts

174 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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rtz62 said:
Used to see these being test-driven around the Carlton Hill area of Nottingham near Sytners back in the day;
For some reason they have more allure to me than the M5.
Me too, Even when they were in Nottingham I still use to see them around Carlton and a few times blasting towards the old Ferry boat inn for a bit of high speed testing smile

si_xsi

1,193 posts

195 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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very nice but would prefer one of these which was for sale for some time before recently being sold, around £7k IIR

http://www.munichlegends.co.uk/component/option,co...


chevronb37

6,471 posts

186 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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Spotted this at Donington earlier the year. Pretty tasty. Those stripes...


Alfa159Ti

827 posts

157 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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It looks angry. Like its scowling with disapproval.

Old school Beamers don't resonate with me, but I still respect them for what they are.

myhandle

1,187 posts

174 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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What a car. I would think that the new owner could pay for its maintenance by renting it out for film use - it is about the most 1980s car imaginable and would be great as the bad guy's car in 80s films.

J4CKO

41,499 posts

200 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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myhandle said:
What a car. I would think that the new owner could pay for its maintenance by renting it out for film use - it is about the most 1980s car imaginable and would be great as the bad guy's car in 80s films.
Or a Yardie/Council Estate Don in anything later.


Sorry but much as I like stuff like that it looks crap with those lame stickers, looks like a grands worth, the stickers ruin it.

Cheburator mk2

2,986 posts

199 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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So Alpina does not have any Motorsport history? Are you kidding me, PH? Get your facts right, please...

Flatinfourth

591 posts

138 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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E12s and E28s are fabulous things, i've had two E12 M535is. a South african boilt E12/8.an E28 M535i which, despite the factory body kit. was a wonderful car, and amazing value. I've owned the current E28 since 2004, and it is a road legal track car that as far as the V5 is concerned, is another M535i, but in fact it is a rarer 535iSE built to order car, that allowed the client to specify the dogleg,LSD, Recaros etc whilst maintaining the Q car look of the M5 outside. My car is currently in the workshop having a good sort out underneath,! I think people often fail to realise that the 12 valve 3.5 in Alpina or even in standard form when attached to the dogleg box makes for a nice crisp car, arguably more engaging to drive than an E30 M3, without the fuss or the price tag. M5s are rare and it is considered inappropriate to modify them, whereas my car has extra thin glass from an E12 M535, perspex rear screen, alloy fuel tank in the boot, cage etc. last edition M5 anti roll bars, E34 Nurburgring brakes, and is simply huge fun. The last pre-safety BMW driver's car?

Cheib

23,217 posts

175 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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Pretty sure this car was on with someone like 4star or Eclectic recently? Thought it looked cheap but what do I know.....

Krikkit

26,515 posts

181 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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Absolutely gorgeous, much want!

Zyp

14,694 posts

189 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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The first sentence of the editorial is wrong.

Alpina is recognized by TÜV as an automobile manufacturer, in contrast to other performance specialists which are aftermarket tuners.

Chunkychucky

5,957 posts

169 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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Nice car, spotted it yesterday and was surprised it wasn't up with 4Star or someone at twice the price.. My mum had one as her daily for a while in the 80s, loved it.

DJRC

23,563 posts

236 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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Cheburator mk2 said:
So Alpina does not have any Motorsport history? Are you kidding me, PH? Get your facts right, please...
Glad I wasnt the only one chewing over this. Alpina doesnt have the heritage of BMW M?

Somebody on PH needs a history lesson.

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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PH Article said:
(Alpina) don't have any motorsport history
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Edit to add: http://www.bmwalpina.co.uk/en/aboutus-uk/heritage....





Edited by g3org3y on Thursday 13th December 14:22