New toilets that actually flush

New toilets that actually flush

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MrCheese

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335 posts

184 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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Does anyone have any idea where I can buy toilets that are guaranteed to flush properly? I have a couple of very old Armitage Shanks loos which work fine but are pale green....they look old fashioned but everyone comments that you never, ever have to flush twice. In work we have these stupid modern loos with dual 3/6 litre flush which are a joke. I just want something that looks good and works. I couldn't give a flying .... about water conservation.

Even though I don't really want to, if required I could push the boat out on the budget.

Maybe I just need to cut down on my fibre intake....

Cupramax

10,487 posts

253 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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I'm another advocate of proper loos. I've redone my bathroom and ensuite recently and these frigging ecobogs drive me nuts. smash talk about bullst over practicality...

miniman

25,108 posts

263 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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Needs a good head of water on it.


nails1979

597 posts

142 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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I've got 2 newish toilets within the last couple of years. The bathroom is from b and and the downstairs bog was from Aldi of all places. Both will flush anything I'll put down them and my st doesn't stink but it does like to float lol.
Bigest prob I have with new toilets is the way they funnel Down to quickly and the back and the st always ends up smudged down it.

essayer

9,110 posts

195 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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I was in a cafe the other day that had an old outdoor loo with high level cistern-
It was like Niagra Falls when I pulled the chain! I am sure you could have stuffed a rolled up newspaper in there and it would have been propelled into the sewer at supersonic speeds

Why did we get rid of them again?

bennyboydurham

1,617 posts

175 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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'This chemical toilet is a Saniflow 33, now this little babe can cope with anything, and I mean anything. Earlier on I put in a pound of mashed up Dundee cake, let's take a look...not a trace! Peace of mind I'm sure, especially if you have elderly relatives on board.’

Laurel Green

30,789 posts

233 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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Here's a siphonic pan that can flush away 56 chicken nuggets!

Edited by Laurel Green on Monday 24th December 10:25

Pints

18,444 posts

195 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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Laurel Green

30,789 posts

233 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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Pints said:
Link fixed
That's strange as I clicked the link in the preview before posting and it worked.
But thanks for fixing it. thumbup

miniman

25,108 posts

263 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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essayer said:
I was in a cafe the other day that had an old outdoor loo with high level cistern-
It was like Niagra Falls when I pulled the chain! I am sure you could have stuffed a rolled up newspaper in there and it would have been propelled into the sewer at supersonic speeds

Why did we get rid of them again?
Because the small amount of extra water they use compared to a modern khazi is much, much worse for the environment than wasting billions of gallons of the stuff through leaky water mains.

MrCheese

Original Poster:

335 posts

184 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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Right, looks like I'm going to have to decorate the house in lime green to match the loo! Does anyone know if high end poncey stuff like Starck is any good, I don't see mutch detail on the online specs.

BalhamBadger

1,162 posts

174 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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miniman said:
Needs a good head of water on it.

Had one of these in a cottage I stayed in recently. Expectations were high but the flush was disappointingly weak, much poorer that the bog-standard Roca stuff back at home. Perhaps it's all in the installation.

Super Slo Mo

5,368 posts

199 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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miniman said:
essayer said:
I was in a cafe the other day that had an old outdoor loo with high level cistern-
It was like Niagra Falls when I pulled the chain! I am sure you could have stuffed a rolled up newspaper in there and it would have been propelled into the sewer at supersonic speeds

Why did we get rid of them again?
Because the small amount of extra water they use compared to a modern khazi is much, much worse for the environment than wasting billions of gallons of the stuff through leaky water mains.
It's a joke though, because the need to flush twice on many occasions negates the supposed environmental benefits.

It's a bit like the 'A' rated super-efficient washing machines, that consume a relatively low amount of energy per hour, but end up taking twice as long to do the job as my old, inefficient machine.

I'm not sure who 'they' think they're fooling.

Simpo Two

85,772 posts

266 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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Super Slo Mo said:
I'm not sure who 'they' think they're fooling.
They do it because it sells washing machine. 'Ooh, eco!'.

RevHappy

1,840 posts

163 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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MrCheese said:
Right, looks like I'm going to have to decorate the house in lime green to match the loo! Does anyone know if high end poncey stuff like Starck is any good, I don't see mutch detail on the online specs.
Your paying for design and build not the power of the flush although that will be optimised to the eu 3/6 litre allowance.

mk1fan

10,534 posts

226 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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Modern, dual flush toilets (and also single, low flush toilets) need to be set up properly in order to work. The vast majoirity of the time the care hasn't been taken to correctly adjust the syphons etc....

They can also be set, very easily to flush more water.

Indeed, with concealled cisterns, that are not part of a plumbing system like Geberit's Duofix system, you can set the cistern higher up the wall for a gain in head for a more powerful flush.

Egbert Nobacon

2,835 posts

244 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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MrCheese said:
Right, looks like I'm going to have to decorate the house in lime green to match the loo! Does anyone know if high end poncey stuff like Starck is any good, I don't see mutch detail on the online specs.
If you're not worried about looking ultra modern then grab some old white stuff from a decent reclamation yard.

We're currently planning a refurb of the bathrooms and will probably keep the existing white loos.

Nothing worse than spending thousands on a trendy refurb then having a permanent teddy bears leg (or torso) bobbing around.

miniman

25,108 posts

263 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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mk1fan said:
Modern, dual flush toilets (and also single, low flush toilets) need to be set up properly in order to work. The vast majoirity of the time the care hasn't been taken to correctly adjust the syphons etc....

They can also be set, very easily to flush more water.

Indeed, with concealled cisterns, that are not part of a plumbing system like Geberit's Duofix system, you can set the cistern higher up the wall for a gain in head for a more powerful flush.
How does one adjust the syphons?

mk1fan

10,534 posts

226 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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'syphons' was my way of simply meaning the flush unit in the cistern.

Depending on the actual unit you can adjust the point at which the '6 litre' flush stops so allowing more water through. You can also adjust the '9 litre' flush to allow more through. Read the instructions for the unit and it should be easy to figure out what to do for that unit.

I did one in my OHs house over the weekend.

It should also be noted that a 6-litre flush pan should also be used. Retro fitting these cisterns to older pans does lead to poor flush performance.

defblade

7,460 posts

214 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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We had a new toilet in the ensuite this year. It's small and neat and only uses a small volume of water, but it still manages to produce a powerful and vigorous fluch.

In fact, so vigorous, most times a bit a water flies out of front or side of the bowel... frown