How not to overtake learner bikers
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anonymous said:
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Yeah, I was thinking the overtake wasn't _that_ bad. Who hasn't done a speed starting with a 1- when overtaking. However, he wasn't overtaking just one vehicle, he was overtaking multiple vehicles which anybody could see were learners.
There were pedestrians/children on the verge to his right.
Locking the brakes shows poor control. Suprised it is even possible to generate that much smoke while braking, did he have ABS switched off?
Both of those would (learners, pedestrians on verge) be cause for me personally to either make the overtake a no-go or do it at much lower speeds. As they say, power is nothing without control and you don't have to give it 100% on each overtake.
creampuff said:
pozi said:
LOL, nothing brings attention to yourself and says "oh s
t a speed camera" like a cloud of tyre smoke from four locked wheels.
He got a 6-month ban. Anyone wanna guess what ban he would have got without the smoke?
t a speed camera" like a cloud of tyre smoke from four locked wheels.RemaL said:
or if that was a biker over taking learner drivers doing 113MPH? Wonder if the ban would have be "highter" or "Lower"
Higher. Much higher.We all probably remember this biker banned for 12 months and 200 hours community service for a much less serious case IMO.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/95531...
Boils my piss.
creampuff said:
anonymous said:
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Yeah, I was thinking the overtake wasn't _that_ bad. Who hasn't done a speed starting with a 1- when overtaking. However, he wasn't overtaking just one vehicle, he was overtaking multiple vehicles which anybody could see were learners.
There were pedestrians/children on the verge to his right.
Locking the brakes shows poor control. Suprised it is even possible to generate that much smoke while braking, did he have ABS switched off?
Both of those would (learners, pedestrians on verge) be cause for me personally to either make the overtake a no-go or do it at much lower speeds. As they say, power is nothing without control and you don't have to give it 100% on each overtake.
Certainly nothing that warrants a 6 month ban, but that's the society we live in these days I guess.
A group of learners that size is a bit much - OK probably no longer than 2 artics but surely it would have been a bit more considerate and to run as 2 or three groups.
The bloke with the Porsche had the performance & used it, would he be slagged off if he was doing the same overtake on a Blackbird or Fireblade?
The bloke with the Porsche had the performance & used it, would he be slagged off if he was doing the same overtake on a Blackbird or Fireblade?
3DP said:
+1 - If he hadn't anchored up stupidly hard for the scamera van, I see nothing wrong with that. Plenty of space, straight road, no pedestrians etc. Probably the only overtaking opportunity for a while, so shock horror, they bung a speed trap there.
Certainly nothing that warrants a 6 month ban, but that's the society we live in these days I guess.
I think you need to work on your observation Certainly nothing that warrants a 6 month ban, but that's the society we live in these days I guess.

Guybrush said:
Should he have gone past them really slowly? Spending more time alongside them? Surely best to get past them as quickly as possible.
113mph is a lot though. It's rare I get over 90mph on the speedo (so maybe 84mph true speed) on overtakes and I'm not shy about overtaking. So that suggests to me the overtake was a bit duff and he used more speed than necessary had he planned it better. 113 is a lot on a single carriageway with other traffic on it. hornetrider said:
3DP said:
+1 - If he hadn't anchored up stupidly hard for the scamera van, I see nothing wrong with that. Plenty of space, straight road, no pedestrians etc. Probably the only overtaking opportunity for a while, so shock horror, they bung a speed trap there.
Certainly nothing that warrants a 6 month ban, but that's the society we live in these days I guess.
I think you need to work on your observation Certainly nothing that warrants a 6 month ban, but that's the society we live in these days I guess.

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