RE: Infiniti Q50 goes chasing the Germans

RE: Infiniti Q50 goes chasing the Germans

Monday 14th January 2013

Infiniti Q50 goes chasing the Germans

Vettel signed off the chassis but it's a hybrid: the highs and lows of the new Infiniti Q50



There's little doubt that Red Bull and co-sponsor Infiniti have given Sebastian Vettel the vehicle for F1 dominance. It's just a shame for Seb about the product endorsements that follow. Oh sure, Alonso and Massa have to endure the odd awkward 'thumbs up beside a Fiat 500 limited edition' photocall from time to time. But, ultimately, endorsing Ferrari road cars and doing the odd junket around Fiorano with an F12 isn't the most tiresome chore in the world. Likewise Button and - as was - Hamilton getting to shake down 12C prototypes for the cameras. How's that new A-Class looking by the way Lewis? Configured those side sweeps with thin strips of fur to mimic your facial fuzz?

'Slightly mysterious' - and that's Infiniti talking
'Slightly mysterious' - and that's Infiniti talking
Meanwhile what does Vettel get for his towering performances on the track? A re-wheeled 'signature' edition of an ageing SUV. Awkward cameos in pop videos. And now the proud boast that he helped sign off the chassis for the new Infiniti Q50.

Q-what? Q-3 Series, Q-C-Class, Q-A4, etc... this is the first all-new fruit of Infiniti's bravely new prefixed future and a replacement for the outgoing G37. In simple terms it's a mid-sized exec saloon with a mildly spicy engine line up comprising a regular 3.7-litre V6 with 328hp or a 3.5-litre version with a bit of hybrid assistance and total of 360hp, both driving the rear wheels via a seven-speed auto with paddleshift override. 'Intelligent All-Wheel Drive' is an option. The 3.7's 269lb ft of torque won't see which way a diesel-powered German rival went, the hybrid's combined 456lb ft offering a fighting chance at least. The Detroit debut is the clue here though - the powertrain options are very States-friendly and Infiniti is promising further engines for other markets. So you can safely assume that means at least one diesel version for Europe.

Token chassis input from Vettel and Buemi
Token chassis input from Vettel and Buemi
For a brand starting - on these shores at least - effectively from scratch, Infiniti has had to work hard to establish a visual signature of its own and the Q50 successfully continues the swoopy work of the distinctive FX and EX crossovers, translated into saloon form. "The Q50's enhanced sense of three-dimensionality gives it a look of strength and agility," says Infiniti's 'chief creative officer' Shiro Nakamura, "a look that is highly personal, seductive and slightly mysterious." Is 'slightly mysterious' a desirable quality when you're up against the branding might of BMW, Audi and Mercedes? We shall see, but it's certainly trying hard to stand out.

With the Germans going all-out on tech, Infiniti has had to keep pace, so the Q50 is packed with all the gizmos you'd expect, including two touchscreens and 96-way personalised settings via your own key fob for seat position, climate control, infotainment preferences. There are another 93 options we won't bother listing right now. The electronic safety nets are vast and complex too; perhaps necessary if you're going to get carried away with all that dual-screening configuration for your 96 personalisation options.

Touchscreens and gizmos galore
Touchscreens and gizmos galore
The European spec Q50, with that promised expanded engine range, will debut at Geneva in March. Expect further pricing information and the rest then.

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andrewparker

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Monday 14th January 2013
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Awful. You'd have to be truly bonkers to spend good money on one of those.

DoctorX

7,287 posts

167 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Looks very similar to the new Quattroporte, but less ugly.

kambites

67,561 posts

221 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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I think it's a rather nice looking car by modern standards - certainly better than the German competition.

troc

3,760 posts

175 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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It's got all the right bulges in all the wrong places.

Twoshoe

854 posts

184 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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I think it looks dreadful, especially the rear view - bloated and dated.

Veeayt

3,139 posts

205 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Which attempt of chasing the Germans it is for Infiniti? :yawn

Alfa159Ti

827 posts

157 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Utterly derivative design.

Absolutely no interest.

clonmult

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209 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Alfa159Ti said:
Utterly derivative design.

Absolutely no interest.
Yup - you can see the influences in the design, and it turns it into something instantly forgettable. In fact I had to scroll back up to the title "What make of car is this again?"

Dazed & Confused

202 posts

204 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Take 1:



Melt slightly with a hairdryer:



(I appreciate that they look rather more different from different angles.)

ZesPak

24,428 posts

196 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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kambites said:
I think it's a rather nice looking car by modern standards - certainly better than the German competition.
Agreed.

But, as for the writing and articles, I do appreciate that here on the boards we can slate Porsche/Ferrari/Mercedes/BMW/whatever like we want, but sometimes I read these articles that give a very high sense of "opinion", I really don't like it, I'll read people's opinions in the comments, keep the articles to facts and objective journalism please.

A3tdi

268 posts

183 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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andrewparker said:
Awful. You'd have to be truly bonkers to spend good money on one of those.
why?

renrut

1,478 posts

205 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Looks to be a combination of a Mondeo, A4, 3 series and some others.

Bland but not ugly. Ulgy is the new 1 series which I had to do a double take of when I first saw one, I thought it was a cheap chinese knockoff of the original 1 series!

andrewparker

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A3tdi said:
why?
Because it's awful.

Nick Young

250 posts

250 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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andrewparker said:
Because it's awful.
Why?

dandare

957 posts

254 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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I think it looks ok, not great, but for today's standards (and Japanese standards, of which I have never been a fan), pretty good.

Certainly better than any Audi, and as good as most Mercs.

Kentish

15,169 posts

234 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Looks a bit like the lovechild of a Jaguar XF and a Citroen C5.

Not awful but not very adventurous.

georgetuk

205 posts

218 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Would look much better in black!

Stu R

21,410 posts

215 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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0-90% depreciation in under 5 seconds in the UK.

I suppose in the US they make a bit more sense as Infinity isn't an utterly forgettable brand. Not a looker though really, it's like someone took an inoffensive design and grafted some silly bulges on.

MX7

7,902 posts

174 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Kentish said:
Not awful but not very adventurous.
Agree. Then again, why take the risk with something that might flop, when all you need to do is make a clone of half a dozen good selling cars?

Cotic

469 posts

152 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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This isn't really aimed at the UK market though, is it.