RE: Spotted: MVS Venturi 200

RE: Spotted: MVS Venturi 200

Tuesday 22nd January 2013

Spotted: MVS Venturi 200

We take a fancy to a fabulous French Ferrari. Frivolous folly, or fortunate find?



France has always been caught in the middle of the supercar triangle. On one side, the suave Italians and sophisticated Germans; on the other, the brawny British – and back in the 1980s, all three nations were at the peak of their wild-eyed, mad-engined creativity.  

Mmm. Woody.
Mmm. Woody.
But why couldn’t France have a slice of the action? That was the view of two Heuliez designers – Gerard Godfroy and Claude Poiraud. They came up with the idea of a smoothly-styled coupe, built in France, that’d uphold French prestige in the supercar market. They called it the Ventury, and it made its debut as a prototype at the 1984 Paris Motor Show.

Within a year, racing driver Herve Poulain had raised the funds to produce the car, and formed a new company called MVS – Manufacture de Voiture de Sport – to that end. After an extensive period of development, which included chassis input from ex-racing drivers like Jean Rondeau, Mauro Bianchi and Jean-Pierre Beltoise, the Venturi – now spelled with an ‘i’ – was released to the public in 1987.

Mmm. Wedgy.
Mmm. Wedgy.
While the Venturi gradually gained power later on in life, giving it the stature to genuinely challenge the established competition, these early cars – of which our Spotted subject is one – were somewhat underpowered. The turbocharged PRV V6 produced 203hp, which took it to 60mph in a 6.9 seconds – not inconsiderable in its day, but not enough to challenge its purported rivals, the Ferrari 328GTS and Porsche 911. It could hardly be claimed to be dynamically perfect, either, with yawning turbo lag and an unrefined ride. However, the motorsport heritage in its development was clear to see in the Venturi’s handling character. The composite body made it light and nimble; a little twitchy on the limit, but with super-sensitive steering that fed back every last ripple and rut. What’s more, while you might imagine an 80s French car made of plastic would feel a bit flaky, the Venturi was not – the superb build quality in that wood’n’leather-swathed cabin was often singled out as the most surprising aspect of the 200.

Mmm. Creamy.
Mmm. Creamy.
So it wasn’t quite in the leagues of a contemporary Ferrari, but the Venturi was still a very cool leftfield rival for cars like the Lotus Esprit and Alpine A610. This one, despite its rather unfortunate aftermarket taillights, is an appealing proposition – just 51,000 miles have passed beneath its tyres, and it’s just had an ‘interior refurb’ (we’re guessing that’ll mean a retrim and new carpets, then). There’s no mention of history, but we’re just going to hope that’s an oversight on the owner’s part and gloss over that fact. Throw in the appealing combination of dark blue paint over ivory leather, and you can see why it gets us excited.


MVS VENTURI 200
Engine:
2,458cc 4-cyl turbo
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Power (hp): 203@5750rpm
Torque(lb ft): 195@2500rpm
MPG: 24.5mpg
CO2: N/A
First registered: 1988
Recorded mileage: 51,761
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £14,000


See the original advert here

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WCZ

Original Poster:

10,515 posts

194 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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too slow to excite me

andybu

293 posts

208 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Confess I've never even heard of this one before. BTW - did they borrow the design bucks for the back of a Ferrari F355?

JaguarsportXJR

235 posts

143 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Not too keen on the back (looks a little late-70's Italian to me), but for reasons I don't fully understand, I love the front end.

It'd need more power though...

Krikkit

26,513 posts

181 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Mmm... Lovely.

ETA:
andybu said:
Confess I've never even heard of this one before. BTW - did they borrow the design bucks for the back of a Ferrari F355?
No, but someone did later down the line (hence why it's mentioned in the article), it should look like this:


Edited by Krikkit on Tuesday 22 January 12:20

richb77

887 posts

161 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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In 1988 203bhp from a 2.5 wasnt too shabby.

I bet you wouldnt complain at a Sierra cosworth? 201bhp from a 2 litre.

I like it. But then i like most Venturi's

Edited by richb77 on Tuesday 22 January 12:12

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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I've loved these since seeing them in magazines in the late 80's/90's

Good colour too.

Needs more power though. What we're they thinking back in 1988? FFS.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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andybu said:
BTW - did they borrow the design bucks for the back of a Ferrari F355?
Yes, and they also borrowed the time machine from Delorean to get them.

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

209 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Always liked these, don't think I've actually ever seen one. smile

LotusOmega375D

7,599 posts

153 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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200bhp was what the Renault GTA's similar 2.5 Turbo yielded too, so on a par with one of those. The mid-engined layout of the Venturi is far superior though.

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

209 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Captain Muppet said:
andybu said:
BTW - did they borrow the design bucks for the back of a Ferrari F355?
Yes, and they also borrowed the time machine from Delorean to get them.
hehe

KMB

254 posts

223 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Like the front end, the rear is rather dated and 'boxey'. Any ideas on the weight of these cars?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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I do love these cars, but running it must prove quite difficult. Some parts must be impossible to get hold of.

f328nvl

507 posts

218 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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"the brawny British – and back in the 1980s, all three nations were at the peak of their wild-eyed, mad-engined creativity. "

Italians and Germans OK, but the Brits? Really? I had an 89 Vantage Volante and "creative" is not the first word that springs to mind! Lack of brakes and brute force maybe, but creative?

http://rjmghome.blogspot.co.uk/#!/2013/01/2010-198...

Maybe Nobles will be like Venturis in a decade or two? Vaguely mythical beasts forgotten by the next generation, rolled out at classic car auctions with huge estimates beacuse they are "rare".


C.A.R.

3,967 posts

188 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Surely a turbocharged V6 with 'just' 200-odd bhp is rather un-stressed? Nothing a cheeky remap couldn't help resolve a little bit?

I think it's a nice left-field car, certainly looks interesting (bar those rear lights).

Zircon

305 posts

181 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Front end is superb - back end is pants.

Alternative for under £3k (albeit not exclusive at all):

MR2 Rev3 Turbo:

0-60 = 5.2 seconds
Top Speed 155+
Cheap parts



Not that I am biased.....

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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It looks good and i'm sure a bit more power can be coaxed from the engine.

Mark-C

5,054 posts

205 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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These have always been on my want list ever since seeing them at Le Mans in the early 90s


Venturi 500LM - Le Mans 1993 by mendaman, on Flickr

Big Fat Fatty

3,303 posts

156 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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I remember these from playing Gran Turismo 2 but have never seen one in the metal. The 300 Atlantique was better looking imo

and the 400 GT was just mad

RacingBlue

1,395 posts

164 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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By coincidence, I was watching Clarksons 'old' Top Gear review of this and the Renault A610 on YouTube yesterday. He rather liked it, as do I smile

RacingBlue

1,395 posts

164 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Zircon said:
Front end is superb - back end is pants.

Alternative for under £3k (albeit not exclusive at all):

MR2 Rev3 Turbo:

0-60 = 5.2 seconds
Top Speed 155+
Cheap parts



Not that I am biased.....
However, the Venturi is discrete and sophisticated, whereas that is nothing of the sort.