Buy tax on line while whilst car is sorn, can I drive ?
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My car is currently sorn and has been since June last year. My other car is now sold so I want to start using this one for a while.
I can go and tax it on line but can I start driiving it straight away ?
It says on the DVLA website that if you apply BEFORE you current one expires you can drive for a further 5 days. But what about in my situation - anybody know ?
I can go and tax it on line but can I start driiving it straight away ?
It says on the DVLA website that if you apply BEFORE you current one expires you can drive for a further 5 days. But what about in my situation - anybody know ?
SimonV8ster said:
My car is currently sorn and has been since June last year. My other car is now sold so I want to start using this one for a while.
I can go and tax it on line but can I start driiving it straight away ?
It says on the DVLA website that if you apply BEFORE you current one expires you can drive for a further 5 days. But what about in my situation - anybody know ?
There are two offences AIUI - not having the car taxed, and not displaying a tax disc. The first one you'll be fine with as the DVLA computer will say "taxed", but if the police stop you or spot your car parked up without a disc you'll be out of luck.I can go and tax it on line but can I start driiving it straight away ?
It says on the DVLA website that if you apply BEFORE you current one expires you can drive for a further 5 days. But what about in my situation - anybody know ?
KelWedge said:
Don't agree, if the car is owned by you and on sorn you can then tax it and drive
No, because you cannot drive on a public road without displaying a valid tax disc. There are only two main exceptions to this:a) You are driving to or from a booked MOT test or place or repair for the purposes of obtaining an MOT certificate
b) You renewed your road tax online PRIOR to the expiration of your previous VED license.
None of these apply if the vehicle is SORN, so it cannot legally go anywhere until the disc turns up in the post unfortunatley.
Fox- said:
KelWedge said:
Don't agree, if the car is owned by you and on sorn you can then tax it and drive
No, because you cannot drive on a public road without displaying a valid tax disc. There are only two main exceptions to this:a) You are driving to or from a booked MOT test or place or repair for the purposes of obtaining an MOT certificate
b) You renewed your road tax online PRIOR to the expiration of your previous VED license.
None of these apply if the vehicle is SORN, so it cannot legally go anywhere until the disc turns up in the post unfortunatley.
It also seems retarded logic, being that you've paid, they've back-dated it to the beginning of the month so you're paying for what you missed (if you did....guess you haven't!) and your car is recorded on the database as licenced.
Yet because you don't have a slip of paper in the window, you can still be prosecuted. In the 21st century! Mental!
- awaits someone to point out some really fundamental flaw in my post!
Fox- said:
No, because you cannot drive on a public road without displaying a valid tax disc. There are only two main exceptions to this:
a) You are driving to or from a booked MOT test or place or repair for the purposes of obtaining an MOT certificate
b) You renewed your road tax online PRIOR to the expiration of your previous VED license.
None of these apply if the vehicle is SORN, so it cannot legally go anywhere until the disc turns up in the post unfortunatley.
If you check dvla sorn section it says if your car is on sorn, and you want to use it on the road, you must tax it first, you can use the online service for this. Last years budget had an amendment to allow for delivery of tax disks, so you are fine as the car will show as taxed.a) You are driving to or from a booked MOT test or place or repair for the purposes of obtaining an MOT certificate
b) You renewed your road tax online PRIOR to the expiration of your previous VED license.
None of these apply if the vehicle is SORN, so it cannot legally go anywhere until the disc turns up in the post unfortunatley.
KelWedge said:
If you check dvla sorn section it says if your car is on sorn, and you want to use it on the road, you must tax it first, you can use the online service for this. Last years budget had an amendment to allow for delivery of tax disks, so you are fine as the car will show as taxed.
AIUI, that's only true for renewals, not vehicles being taxed after SORN. The offence would be 'failure to display', I think. KelWedge said:
If you check dvla sorn section it says if your car is on sorn, and you want to use it on the road, you must tax it first, you can use the online service for this. Last years budget had an amendment to allow for delivery of tax disks, so you are fine as the car will show as taxed.
You can use the online service to tax it, correct. But you still can't use it until the disc shows up.direct.gov.uk said:
When you apply for a tax disc online or by using DVLA's phone service you are able to legally continue to drive your vehicle for up to 5 days after the tax disc has expired while you wait for the new tax disc to arrive. This will only apply when you have applied for a new tax disc before the current one expires. You should continue to display the expired disc on your vehicle, until the new one arrives.
I still don't agree
See Page 70 point 2.149 of the 2012 Budget 2012
It says to quote as its printed
2.149 VED: tax disc display waiver - The Goverment will reduce tax disc postage costs by extending to fourteen days the grace period, following the payment of tax, on the non-display of a tax disc in a vehicle (Finance Bill 2013)
See Page 70 point 2.149 of the 2012 Budget 2012
It says to quote as its printed
2.149 VED: tax disc display waiver - The Goverment will reduce tax disc postage costs by extending to fourteen days the grace period, following the payment of tax, on the non-display of a tax disc in a vehicle (Finance Bill 2013)
KelWedge said:
I still don't agree
See Page 70 point 2.149 of the 2012 Budget 2012
It says to quote as its printed
2.149 VED: tax disc display waiver - The Goverment will reduce tax disc postage costs by extending to fourteen days the grace period, following the payment of tax, on the non-display of a tax disc in a vehicle (Finance Bill 2013)
There is no grace period when taxing a vehicle that is currently SORNed, it only applies to vehicles with a current tax disc where the new tax has been bought before the old one expires.See Page 70 point 2.149 of the 2012 Budget 2012
It says to quote as its printed
2.149 VED: tax disc display waiver - The Goverment will reduce tax disc postage costs by extending to fourteen days the grace period, following the payment of tax, on the non-display of a tax disc in a vehicle (Finance Bill 2013)
AlexS said:
There is no grace period when taxing a vehicle that is currently SORNed, it only applies to vehicles with a current tax disc where the new tax has been bought before the old one expires.
If I'd paid, backdated to the start of the month, I'd be prepared to argue this one in court.If you'd bough the disc in a post office, you'd be able to use it straight away. Govt wants to encourage you to buy online and not in the post office as it's cheaper for them.
I was involved in a car accident last year, no tax disc in car as car had been sorned but taxed it on line on day of accident. Explained this to police at the scene and they said they would check it out and get back to me if there was a problem. Never heard anymore so i would say your covered.
I have been doing this for years and have never had a problem. As soon as i have paid for the tax after a sorn period, I have driven the car often same hour, never mind the same day.
It can take up to a week or more to get the disc through the post so it is unreasonable to expect the car to remain off the road until the DVLA can be bothered to post the disc to you.
It can take up to a week or more to get the disc through the post so it is unreasonable to expect the car to remain off the road until the DVLA can be bothered to post the disc to you.
Stinkfoot said:
I have been doing this for years and have never had a problem. As soon as i have paid for the tax after a sorn period, I have driven the car often same hour, never mind the same day.
It can take up to a week or more to get the disc through the post so it is unreasonable to expect the car to remain off the road until the DVLA can be bothered to post the disc to you.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything does it ? It just means you never got caught and had to explain anything.It can take up to a week or more to get the disc through the post so it is unreasonable to expect the car to remain off the road until the DVLA can be bothered to post the disc to you.
If you've taxed your car and are waiting for the disk then you'll be fine, the police tend to have more important things to deal with than not displaying your tax disk.
I'm sure you could always fail the attitude test if pulled and they could then get arsey but I've driven round without a vaild disk whilst waiting for mine in the post and nothing has happened.
One thing I did do is made sure I had my licence and insurance docs on me in the car just in case.
I'm sure you could always fail the attitude test if pulled and they could then get arsey but I've driven round without a vaild disk whilst waiting for mine in the post and nothing has happened.
One thing I did do is made sure I had my licence and insurance docs on me in the car just in case.
Edited by Wills2 on Saturday 2nd February 21:39
I think this 'display' business is all very old fashioned insofar as you couldn't prove you had paid the tax unless you had the disc, now of course its all online so a formality to show a bit of paper really. If I paid the tax I'd drive the car before it turned up, like said, police can check on their computer and will likely not bother you if you've been bent over coughed up to the treasury...
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