RE: PH Fleet: Toyota MR2

RE: PH Fleet: Toyota MR2

Tuesday 5th February 2013

PH Fleet: Toyota MR2

The MR2 reveals some nasty surprises lurking beneath its shiny exterior



I’ve been sitting here pondering how to start this fleet update, but there isn’t really one that conveys the gravity of the situation I find myself in better than this: I’ve bought a pup.

The first indication of this came when I took it to the garage I regularly use (Morley Auto Services, on the site of the former Gatwick TVR) to have the cambelt and clutch done. There was much banter about the way these rust, and I asked – half-jokingly – that if they lifted it up on the ramp and found it to be full of holes underneath, they abort the job. I left in high spirits in one of the courtesy cars. However, my heart sank when, 10 minutes down the road, the phone rang. It was indeed Morleys, and I knew that a phone call this early on in the day meant either they couldn’t find the locking wheelnut key, or there was something very, very wrong.

Nope, that's not how that's supposed to look
Nope, that's not how that's supposed to look
You’ve guessed it already: it was the latter. And that wrong thing was that my MR2 was indeed full of holes. Nick at Morleys had prodded around at the sills before putting it up on the ramp to find that one ... well ... moved. Closer investigation revealed some horrors.

Essentially, it appears that at some point in the car’s past, some kind soul has repaired both rear sills by stuffing them full of newspaper and filling the gaps with fibreglass. How it got through several MoTs in this state makes the mind boggle but unfortunately it’s muggins here who’s been left in the lurch.

‘Don’t say we didn’t warn you,’ will come the cry, and yes, point taken. I knew these things rusted – but I wasn’t expecting to have a hound on my hands quite this soon. Having checked it over pretty thoroughly I was pretty sure it was (mostly) straight. My mistake, if you'll pardon the expression, was not reaching under the skirts to poke the hidden parts of the sill, and being content with a visual inspection. Lesson learned. And how.

That piece is all resin. Niiice.
That piece is all resin. Niiice.
So, what do I do now? Well, to be honest, I’m leaning towards cutting and running – putting it up for sale, spares or repair, and getting it gone. I’m no fan of throwing good money after bad, and if it is a rotter, I can’t help but feel that repairing the sills will be expensive and only prolong the inevitable – more crustiness will doubtless crop up before the next MoT’s due.  What’s more, the discovery on my arrival home in it of steam emanating from the radiator suggests that’s just gone pop too – it isn’t making a convincing case for staying with me, then.

But I do really, really enjoy driving it, even with all its quirks. Its uninhibited retro appeal and the airiness that comes from the glass roof, off or on, are touches I love, and that’s before we mention the fantastic little engine. I’d stand to lose a fair chunk of cash, if I were to sell it now, too.

Time to let the sun go down on the MR2?
Time to let the sun go down on the MR2?
To my current way of thinking, though, that seems to work better than throwing bunches of money at a car which aren’t really going to increase its value, just to end up with something safe and usable. Let’s not forget, it still needs the cambelt and clutch doing, plus the tear in the seat. And the recent rain has seen a sudden drop in the roof’s water-tightness. I just can’t help but feel that these are all signs that it’s time to put my hands up, accept defeat and chalk this one up to experience. I would, however, love to hear what you reckon. Be gentle, though – I’m still feeling rather raw about the whole experience!


FACT SHEET
Car:
1989 Toyota MR2
Run by: Scrof
Bought: Dec 2012
Purchase price: £1,500
Last month at a glance: It's rotten to the core - time to walk away.


Previous report:
Banned from buying an MX-5 Alex finds an MR2 with PH previous

 

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Discussion

Dan Trent

Original Poster:

1,866 posts

168 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Go easy on him, it's still a bit raw... biggrin

Dan

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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MR2...made from 15% recycled material.

new_bloke

452 posts

284 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Hmmm - sounds like the french have it right with this one...
If it were my money, I'd be having a very hard think about what I would actually have after I'd thrown lots of cash at it. I think I'd run, personally... Only you can decide though!

stevem2k

8 posts

169 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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I would just jump in with the obvious MX-5 suggestion , but they also are prone to sills and chassis leg rot.

Treat it as a learning experience.

PATTERNPART

693 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Never mind. We all live and learn. Nobody died.

Daniel1

2,931 posts

198 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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I'd pay for your garage to give it a proper inspection, get a guide price to repair and make a decision.

mk1matt

405 posts

165 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Yeah ok it's some pretty bad news, but think of it this way - you've now got an excuse to go car shopping again, and who doesn't like doing that?

Every cloud and all that...

drakart

1,735 posts

210 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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£1500 well spent laugh

Oh dear, the French translation of the car comes to mind... At least you can dry your tears on the paper provided.

awooga

358 posts

134 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Yikes! I had a 1990 Mk 1 a few years ago, which rusted around the rear wheel arches. There was a firm that was doing re-fabricated sections for them, which worked out a lot cheaper than replacement wings and I think you can get cheap-ish repair sections for them, it's just the price of the work that'll be the killer.

Also, consider buying an imported engine from fensport if your engine is high mileage and requires a lot of work done to it.

Loved mine. My brother in law still reckons it was his favourite out of all my cars. Amazing how much could be squeezed in.

MartynVRS

1,168 posts

210 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Don't bother spending a penny more. Learn from it and move on

dmitry

341 posts

162 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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No point in trying to repair that - it will cost dearly just to keep it in ok condition for a couple of years and much more to keep it really clean. If you like how it drives buy another one, just make a proper inspection this time smile

elvismiggell

1,635 posts

151 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Oh dear, not exactly a surprise, but rather nasty the way it's been bodged.

I suggest you get rid, and then come join us in the Exciting Cars (£1k - £5k) thread!

Chris Type R

8,026 posts

249 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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I don't know what your budget is, but S2000s are becoming a lot more affordable (insurance aside).

scholesy

143 posts

162 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Jeez, to be fair I'm not sure how this was overlooked when the car was bought, that is properly extensive rusting. I would get rid purely on the basis that the car is probably bent and twisted from several years of driving with what is effectively no sills (a decent part of the structural rigidity). I'm sure a breaker or someone that parts the cars out would give you a small amount over scrap price for it.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Genuinely feel for you here. On the bright side you'll not do it again! Call it an education eh? (you can't get one of those for £1500 these days it would seem).

Moral of the story is take a magnet next time...

browna

334 posts

183 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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id just put it on ebay, take the loss, and try to pretend it never happened. smile

pthelazyjourno

1,848 posts

169 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Can't say I feel much sympathy, it's what, 25 years old?

They rust to buggery, everybody knows that. Any car this age tends to. It's a relatively easy fix, just cough up and get it done!

/been there done that, with a red Mk1 MR2.

jon-

16,509 posts

216 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Cage it and take it to an autocross / rally event.

danjama

5,728 posts

142 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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Put the newspaper and fibreglass back, stick your head in the sand.

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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They're so rare. Is it really not worth saving?