RE: Renaultsport Clio 200 - full details

RE: Renaultsport Clio 200 - full details

Friday 15th February 2013

Renaultsport Clio 200 - full details

Sub-£20K, gadgets galore and a promise it'll keep hardcore appeal while playing to a wider audience too



Just how many words does it take to explain the new Renaultsport Clio 200? 5,721 according to the press release that's just thudded into our inbox. This, on top of a personaland assertive endorsement by Renaultsport MD Patrice Ratti, batting aside concerns about the 200's five-door only format and dual-clutch transmission by saying "call me when you've driven it."

New Renaultsport Clio 200 - in your face!
New Renaultsport Clio 200 - in your face!
That'll happen in a month. As long as it took to wade through the press release, or so it felt. We've done it so you don't have to, and now we present a few reasons why we should, perhaps, be excited about the new Clio 200. And why Mr Ratti seems so confident.

One number glaringly absent is the price; numbers are being crunched as we write. A Renault contact confirmed sub-£20K and that 'we're fully aware of Focus ST and Peugeot 208 GTI pricing' which would put it, respectively, somewhere between £22K and £19K. £19,995 then?

In such a competitive sector, price margins are amplified. Clearly the Clio isn't going to be the cheapest, but Renault is keen to point out where your money goes.

Five doors, turbo, dual-clutch and gizmos galore
Five doors, turbo, dual-clutch and gizmos galore
Chassis-wise you get ‘pseudo-MacPherson strut’ front suspension with, Renault says, ‘sturdier elements’ to increase stiffness, not the Perfohub offset steering axis set-up used on the outgoing 197 and 200. The new 200 also features hydraulically-damped bump stops, which enables the suspension to work fully through its stroke, and not rebound harshly when bottoming out. There's no mechanical limited-slip diff like the Megane's but an 'eLSD' will simulate its effect. And there'll be an optional Cup chassis running 15 per cent stiffer springs and 3mm lower too. This will include black 18-inch wheels shod with Dunlop Sport Maxx tyres.

The turbocharged 200hp 1.6-litre engine promises greater flexibility than the normally aspirated 2.0-litre it replaces, not to mention friendlier emissions and fuel consumption - 144g/km and 44.8mpg officially.

But it's the onboard gadgetry where Renault is really staking the new 200's reputation. The standard R-link touchscreen nav system incorporates second-gen Renaultsport Monitor 2.0. Which means proper telemetry and data-logging, downloadable to a USB stick and viewable through software coming 'at a later date.' A full hour of driving data can be stored in a single 3mb file, matching GPS data and in-car parameters for throttle position, gears, steering angle and the rest that'll finally prove, without a doubt, that you were flat through Craner Curves. Or whichever corner you happen to have been going around.

Settle those online 'how fast?' arguments
Settle those online 'how fast?' arguments
There's also the, er, R-Sound Effect app, which reproduces a choice of seven classic engine notes over the speakers and varies them according to throttle position to complete the effect. This is just a bit of fun though - real engine noise is filtered into the cabin via the, arf, RS Sound Pipe which uses an amplified membrane to give a more 'true' impression of proper engine noise.

But the three-mode RS Drive and its interaction with the EDC gearbox, throttle response, engine noise, steering, stability control and launch control is where the gizmo overload really kicks in, bringing M5 or Nissan GT-R levels of configurability to the hot hatch market for the first time. Normal, Sport and Race modes deliver three different combinations of a dozen different parameters, Race offering the most hardcore with fully manual shifts and electronic safety nets fully disengaged.

Which brings us to 572 words, or a tenth of what it took Renault. More once we've driven it...

 

 

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Amirhussain

Original Poster:

11,487 posts

163 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Front end reminds me of angry birds, lol

80quattro

1,725 posts

195 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Sounds impressive. Hopefully a better driving position than the last model.

Evo

3,462 posts

254 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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It's growing on me,

Evo

3,462 posts

254 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Slowly

North West Tom

11,514 posts

177 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Amirhussain said:
Front end reminds me of angry birds, lol
Reminds me of Rafael from Rio.


Mastodon2

13,825 posts

165 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Laughing my arse off at the R sound map, I wonder if they'e put a Group B Quattro S1 in there! rolleyes

The back end of that car is hideous too, what a styling disaster.

StottyZr

6,860 posts

163 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Reminds me of the GTR with all the game like information available. I don't mind this to be honest, but I can understand why people may get into a huff about it.

Any information on the performance figures?

A FWD e-diff worries me a little bit, I'd hope it will work in a subtle fashion.

BBS-LM

3,972 posts

224 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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This car just reads Marketing then drivers car, and no proper LSD is a cop out.

morebhpplease

16 posts

162 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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framerateuk

2,730 posts

184 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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BBS-LM said:
This car just reads Marketing then drivers car, and no proper LSD is a cop out.
No Clio has ever had an LSD. It's hardly a cop out. No car in the class has an LSD either!

Can't wait to drive one.

mr2j

516 posts

158 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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i initially read that picture caption as "5 turbos and a door"

disappoint

RacingBlue

1,394 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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The styling is beginning to grow on me (particularly the rear). The electronic gubbins I'm more concerned about.

Edited by RacingBlue on Thursday 14th February 16:27

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Article said:
There's also the, er, R-Sound Effect app, which reproduces a choice of seven classic engine notes over the speakers and varies them according to throttle position to complete the effect
Hmm, righto...

ktm301p

746 posts

189 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Disagree with some of the above comments, the styling is growing on me and I think this is a great spec for a sub20k price.

DaveH23

3,234 posts

170 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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framerateuk said:
No Clio has ever had an LSD. It's hardly a cop out. No car in the class has an LSD either!

Can't wait to drive one.
Mazda 3 MPS has an LSD biggrin

But I agree it should be a hoot to drive.

RINGMEISTER

154 posts

181 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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The rear looks so much like a Seat Ibiza its not even funny. "Gadgets galore" so plenty go wrong then....

Twincam16

27,646 posts

258 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Overall, it sounds good, but the computer-screen thingy and the paddleshift gearbox should have been optional (note, I said optional, not 'I hate them and want them all banned whether anyone else likes them or not').

But as for that noise-synthesising thingy - horrid. Has no place in a serious performance car.

TaRD

778 posts

187 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Face only a mother could love.

milfordkong

1,231 posts

232 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Garlick said:
Article said:
There's also the, er, R-Sound Effect app, which reproduces a choice of seven classic engine notes over the speakers and varies them according to throttle position to complete the effect
Hmm, righto...
This is just ridiculous, just so so stupid, it makes me sad that an RS Clio has this absurd feature.



The Obeast

99 posts

144 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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framerateuk said:
BBS-LM said:
This car just reads Marketing then drivers car, and no proper LSD is a cop out.
No Clio has ever had an LSD. It's hardly a cop out. No car in the class has an LSD either!

Can't wait to drive one.
I thought the Corsa VXR nurburgring thingy had a LSD?

On topic, not a fan of the looks, but I don't think renaultsport will suddenly stop being able to make good hot hatch, just because they've changed the engine and gearbox.