Tyre pressures.

Tyre pressures.

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chris1972

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3,597 posts

137 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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My Chim has non-standard wheels, with 17" fronts (215/40 ZR17) and 18" rear (245/35/ZR18). The tyres needed air (looked a little low and the rear was really squirming under full throttle). I have gone for 30psi/ 2bar front and back as a starter. Anybody care to advance on this as there's no real guidance? ears

Mr Supercharged

494 posts

157 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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I'm no expert on tyre pressures, but if you have the same area of rubber in contact on the ground, i.e. the same width tyres as standard, regardless of the diameter of the wheel / tyre I would have assumed that the original tyre pressure would equally apply.....22 front, 24 rear. I could be totally wrong so check. But if you run too high you will just wear the centre of the tyres out and have less grip.

MADMAX2

2,336 posts

194 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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i would have thought 24psi all round

gammav

118 posts

195 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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I have same sise wheels, tyres (Toyo T1R) on the Griff and run 24 front and 26 rear...30 would be way too firm.


Bassfiend229hp

5,530 posts

250 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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30 PSI does seem a bit high...

SILICONEKID350HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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We are not talking about 15 and 16" wheels ,these are low profile 17 and 18" I would expect them to be around 26 and 28psi or 25 27psi ish !

chris1972

Original Poster:

3,597 posts

137 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Okay, thanks for the advice every one, really valuable guidance (again)!cool I'll deflate them a little tomorrow. smile

Bassfiend229hp

5,530 posts

250 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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At the end of the day it's how they feel on the road but even on much lower profile tyres I'd have thought that 30psi would be excessively hard.

What did you use as a pressure gauge though? The forecourt ones aren't very accurate at lower pressures and don't even bother with the ones built into 12v compressors - the only thing they're any good for is making sure that you're at least consistent from side to side.

I ended up buying a couple of accurate rubber-cased glycerine-filled gauges (one that covers 0 - 15 psi for a quad that I had and one that covers 0 - 45 psi for the car) about 15 years ago and never regretted them - makes getting consistent pressures a doddle ...

chris1972

Original Poster:

3,597 posts

137 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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They don't seem to bad if I'm honest, but it was nice and dry today when driving her. I used one of those awful Cig Lighter manual tyre inflator gauges and pushed until the hit 29/30psi. I gather they're probably around the 27psi mark. Have just looked at the glycerine-filled gauges as suggested, but are a tad on the expensive side. I was thinking of one of these:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-69924-Pressure-Gaug...

Edited by chris1972 on Saturday 16th February 22:49

QBee

20,984 posts

144 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Can I be cheeky and extend this a bit?

I have three sets of wheels and tyres and need pressure advice on all three please:

1. 15/16 inch Imolas running normal road tyres (typical standard saloon tyres, which I use for winter). I had been running these at 22/24 psi
2. 17 inch wheels on which I have Yokohama Parada Spec 2s. I had these also at 22/24 psi, only because I didn't know better. Ran the car on them all summer on road and track. However, they felt good.
3. Just bought 17/18 inch SP12s with Toyo R888s. 215/45 ZR on the front, 235/40 on the rear. Track days only. Just got them. Not a Scooby what to run them at.

Thanks

Bassfiend229hp

5,530 posts

250 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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£12.50 each? http://www.oilybits.com/pressure-gauge-glycerine-f...

... but the Draper looks fine too. biggrin

Edited by Bassfiend229hp on Saturday 16th February 23:02

swanny71

2,854 posts

209 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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I'm on the same size wheels & tyres (215/40/17, 245/35/18) - 24 psi all round

Edited by swanny71 on Saturday 16th February 23:10

QBee

20,984 posts

144 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Ta

SILICONEKID350HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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I have one of these ..Are they accurate

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Draper-Expert-Digital-Ty...

Bassfiend229hp

5,530 posts

250 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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SILICONEKID350HP said:
I have one of these ..Are they accurate

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Draper-Expert-Digital-Ty...
No idea what standard Draper calibrate them to but I would expect they'd not be far out - it's the gauges on cheap 12v compressors that I've always found to be a little "special"...

SILICONEKID350HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Bassfiend229hp said:
No idea what standard Draper calibrate them to but I would expect they'd not be far out - it's the gauges on cheap 12v compressors that I've always found to be a little "special"...
My teacher said i was "special" ! Is it a double entendre silly

Bassfiend229hp

5,530 posts

250 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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SILICONEKID350HP said:
My teacher said i was "special" ! Is it a double entendre silly
You'll always be "special" to us Daz... wink

(...and no - a double ender is something that's used in those "special interest" films.)

KateV8

448 posts

152 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Back to the original question, I also have 18" rears and 17" fronts and the car came back from tyre fitting with 30lbs all round. And was horrible, nervous and twitchy on bends that weren't smooth as a baby's..
Dropped to 24 front 26 rear and much happier now, nice and calm and smooth. Amazing the difference a few pounds can make.

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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I originally had your set up and ran 22/24 as standard.

Tyre wear was even so that's what it stayed at.

I still run those pressures now with wider tyres and 17s all round.