Selling a Cat C write off without a VIC check

Selling a Cat C write off without a VIC check

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wilbo83

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1,535 posts

165 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Unfortunately my Mazda MX5 was written off in a non fault accident before Christmas. The damage is a dent to the offside rear quarter panel and arch, but the car is still drive-able. My insurers advised me after the accident that they do not insure write offs and were therefore cancelling my policy (I got a refund of the remainder) so the car was stored away in the garage and I declared SORN.

I would now like to sell the car as spares / repair but am unsure of the correct procedure. I still have the V5C in my name. Do I just sell as normal and then it is up to the new owner to get the car repaired (if they wish to) and complete the VIC check? Obviously a new V5C will not be issued until the VIC check is complete so my worry is that the new owner may use the car whilst it would still be registered to myself.

MysteryLemon

4,968 posts

191 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Totally down to the new owner to do anything.

Just sell it. Fill in the V5 as usual and it's gone.

eltax91

9,875 posts

206 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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What region are you in OP? Currently considering a Mazda based kit car, so could be interested. biggrin

jimbob82

690 posts

134 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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If the car is roadworthy you can get it Vic checked yourself. You don't HAVE to repair it.

wilbo83

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Saturday 23rd February 2013
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eltax91 said:
What region are you in OP? Currently considering a Mazda based kit car, so could be interested. biggrin
Berkshire in the South.

wilbo83

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Saturday 23rd February 2013
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jimbob82 said:
If the car is roadworthy you can get it Vic checked yourself. You don't HAVE to repair it.
The issue is that where the arch has been impacted, it has resulted in a sharp edge which I am guessing would not pass the VIC. I know it is an identity check but read that they will also check for things like sharp edges. Also, wouldn't be able to drive it to the VIC test without insurance.

ETA: This is the damage:


Edited by wilbo83 on Saturday 23 February 14:52

eltax91

9,875 posts

206 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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wilbo83 said:
Berkshire in the South.
Could you pm me some details about it please?

lufbramatt

5,345 posts

134 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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In terms of the sharp edge, if the quarter panel is toast anyway, could you not roughly pull the dent out then fold the seam back under the arch with a club hammer? wouldn't have to be neat.

Welshwonder

303 posts

188 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Use a hammer to knock the lip back inside the arch. Get it MOT'd (your existing one is void), get some temporary insurance on it and then take it for a VIC.

Your current V5 is completely void, so you may as well shred it - it won't be of any use to the new owner.

Alternative is to just shove it on ebay as-is. You should get decent money for it.

sim16v

2,177 posts

201 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Easy to sell as is, as long as you mention no V5 and needing a VIC check.

You won't get a lot for the car, as spares/repairs MX5s tend to go for £2-400 with a log book.

I've got one my self with log book and rusty sills and it didn't cost a lot.

Fox-

13,238 posts

246 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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wilbo83 said:
The issue is that where the arch has been impacted, it has resulted in a sharp edge which I am guessing would not pass the VIC.
VIC = Vehicle IDENTITY Check. It is not a check on the standard of any repairs which may have been done, its a check to make sure the car's identity isn't being fraduently used.

Provided it passed as a standard MOT (Because as you know the car it will obviously pass a VIC), there is no problem.

s p a c e m a n

10,777 posts

148 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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sim16v said:
Easy to sell as is, as long as you mention no V5 and needing a VIC check.
This, stick it up on driftworks for £500 and someone will take it off of you, I went to pick one up for £300 today in not much better of a state than that with a couple of engine problems.

eta. If you do take it for a VIC, just smooth the sharp bits out on the panel or they may stick a prohabition notice on it if they feel like being annoying. It is just an identity check, but obviously the car has to be roadworthy to be on the road.

Edited by s p a c e m a n on Saturday 23 February 23:21

psychoR1

1,069 posts

187 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Welshwonder said:
Use a hammer to knock the lip back inside the arch. Get it MOT'd (your existing one is void), get some temporary insurance on it and then take it for a VIC.

Your current V5 is completely void, so you may as well shred it - it won't be of any use to the new owner.

Alternative is to just shove it on ebay as-is. You should get decent money for it.
This is incorrect. Mot is valid as is v5.

crossy67

1,570 posts

179 months

Sunday 24th February 2013
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Unless things have changed recently not all cat C's will require a vic check. There is a phone number you can call to see if the car will need one but I have deleted it off my phone as I no longer needed it.

Doesn't it make a bit of a mockery of the whole classification of write off's though. Cat C was originally for serious structural damage. That looks like an easily repairable dent to me, any panel beater worth his salt would get it straight in a morning.

Spangles

1,441 posts

185 months

Sunday 24th February 2013
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Welshwonder said:
Use a hammer to knock the lip back inside the arch. Get it MOT'd (your existing one is void),
No it isn't.

Welshwonder said:
Your current V5 is completely void,
No it isn't. The current owner can still use it to get VED from the Post Office.

johnnyBv8

2,417 posts

191 months

Sunday 24th February 2013
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Definitely don't shred the V5! It's part of the car's records as much as anything, and still shows you as the registered keeper.

I'd push out the rear panel as best you can from the inside, knock the lip back in and give it a blast of silver paint to protect it - and then if you think it'll pass an MOT, get it VIC'd. Even if you don't, it should sell easily - eBay?

Edited by johnnyBv8 on Sunday 24th February 07:55

psychoR1

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187 months

Sunday 24th February 2013
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Spangles said:
No it isn't. The current owner can still use it to get VED from the Post Office.
Spangles is correct. I have a car c car. The mot was still valid. I re motd after 11 months when it expired and did the VIC after a year. Shred nothing!

wilbo83

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165 months

Sunday 24th February 2013
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psychoR1 said:
Spangles is correct. I have a car c car. The mot was still valid. I re motd after 11 months when it expired and did the VIC after a year. Shred nothing!
The MOT expires at the end of April. Do you think I can take out a new insurance policy and declare it as a CAT C and drive it as is then (with tax)?

s p a c e m a n

10,777 posts

148 months

Sunday 24th February 2013
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Yes you can, as long as the car is roadworthy. You can also keep getting tax without the vic test, you just cant do it online.

psychoR1

1,069 posts

187 months

Sunday 24th February 2013
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s p a c e m a n said:
Yes you can, as long as the car is roadworthy. You can also keep getting tax without the vic test, you just cant do it online.
Also correct....