Terraclean

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shipley

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266 posts

255 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Has anyone tried this yet ?

http://www.terraclean.co.uk/

I saw Mr Ed China use it on a recent wheeler dealer episode and he seemed impressed (he must have been as he's now advertising it)

We've added a Cooper S to the fleet and they are dreadful for carbon build up so I hear so I thought it might be worth the £100.

Any real life experiences out there ?


LukeBird

17,170 posts

209 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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A local member recently posted about his (positive) experience of using it, here.

jimbob82

690 posts

134 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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nice advert...don't believe much of it myself...

furrywoolyhatuk

682 posts

154 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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This seems to pop up quite regularly:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

shipley

Original Poster:

266 posts

255 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Ah sorry chaps... thanks for the tips - I've emailed Teraclean south and see what comes back.

Seems to get good reviews


ging84

8,897 posts

146 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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watching the video of how it works, it hooks up concentrated injector cleaner to the fuel rail, that will be very good for clearing blocked injectors, but as for the rest of the claims, it will be little different than putting a can of fuel system snake oil in the tank.
For the cooper S this is not going to be a lot of help, the problem with carbon build up there is specifically to do with it being direct injection and parts of the engine that never get touched by fuel or the detergents in it getting carbon build up from pcv gases.

B1GRLM

347 posts

215 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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My results as posted on another forum.

Its a new process that de-carbonises your engine from injectors to CATs and reduces emissions, that may be useful if you have any problems getting your car through an MOT.

Look here:

http://www.terraclean.co.uk/video.html

I had a chat with the blokes at the NEC Classic Car Show and took the plunge yesterday.

I did wonder if the process would work but you can see the results here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/garyharman/sets/72157...

This is with a Marcos Mantis with a Mustang 4.6 32V engine, WITH OUT CATS. (Exhaust air recirculation bits also removed.)

After the process my car PASSED an MOT emissions test with out CATS.

Just thought it might be of use.

This was carried out by Grease Monkies, Eastern Road, Bracknell, RG12 2UP Tel: 01344 866999 (Owned by Ed China.)

The cost is £80+vat for up to 2ltr engines, £90+vat for larger engines.

The process takes around an hour in total, and excellent service.

If you book in say that they were recommended and you may get a discount.


kwakus

267 posts

174 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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I am pretty sure this is what my brother had done to his T reg 520.
He said it made a huge difference in the running of the car and it paid for itself in a few tanks of fuel due to increased mpg.
Keep thinking of doing it to mine but try to spend as little as possible on it

EddieFelson

1,168 posts

214 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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Here's a link giving a different view with photos. Seems to be a waste of money.

http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/topic/76184-terra-clean-m5...

jimbob82

690 posts

134 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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i can't see the images frown

jimbob82

690 posts

134 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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i just can't see how they can claim what they are claiming myself. the only way to clean carbon off a piston and associated components is to take them out of the engine soak them overnight in a non corrosive cleaner/thinners and then scrub LAMF, and it's still like cow s@#t to move.

I don't know of any chemical that can be put through the fuel system and do the same job without knackering something on the way through...i'm open to information that states otherwise with evidence to back it up as said above by vindaloorear

Mr Wolf

252 posts

137 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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currybum said:
I had an email discussion with theses guys after a friend asked me about it, they didn't have any testing to back up the claims, no SAE papers published on the system and could provide me with no park passable mechanism as to how it might do what they said it could.

They also couldn't answer my questions about the lubricity of the flush and if it meets the fuel system requirement of the car I was asking about, just to give some confidence that the flush was not going to bork the high pressure system.

My opinion was that it was snake oil which could potentially damage a very expensive chunk of an engine.

I expect that they will be on here taking about happy customers but with no data to back up the claims.

But I'm more than happy to have my mind changed by some good testing data.
I'm not sure that branding it snake oil is the correct approach. It's a franchise in the UK so your email conversations will likely be with some fat gobste fresh from a training course and not an educated/experienced mechanic. type

marktmorgan

26 posts

201 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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An old post but, here are my findings having two cars terracleaned in the past.

Both had failed MOT on emissions and passed the 2 days after the initial test and 24hrs after the treatment

1) 1996 Jaguar XK8 - done in 2008 (long before Ed China)
2) 2007 Audi A6 quattro Tdi done in 2013

Whether an Italian tune up would have done just a good a job is unclear, but both cars never failed an emissions test afterwards.

I suspect that it is a good preventative treatment, however neither of the above cars are known to have their nutz thrashed off or be favoured by those that will use/abuse street race.

If you're buying a car of this type there's a good chance it'll have quite a lot of carbon, which is weird as most of that crowd seem to favour 'shell wallet cleanser' albeit only in £5-£10 quantities biggrin

I'm going to have my newest ride terracleaned next week, yep it's a DI recently dyno'd at 545...pic attached...and no I don't leave it on jacks...it was being paint corrected/detailed/sealed in October when I bought it


andymc

7,356 posts

207 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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load of ste

Earthdweller

13,563 posts

126 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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andymc said:
load of ste
Can you be a bit more specific smile

ging84

8,897 posts

146 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Why would you do this? Looks like you are spending a fair amount of money on a high performance car, and you are going to pay someone £200 to dump some generic chemicals in it to see if it helps with a problem there is no evidence that you have?


rxe

6,700 posts

103 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Anyone who has had a cyclinder head off the car will know that this stuff is complete snake oil.

Carbon on pistons and cylinder heads does not dissolve in anything that you could buy commercially or use outside a laboratory. There are probably some organic acids that could do it, but these are not the sort of things that you find in garages because they tend to dissolve people as well.

The only way you can get carbon off a head is by mechanical means (wire brushes and the like) or by really long term steam cleaning (which is why pistons in engines with busted head gaskets are often shiny clean).

It’s no different to the Redex stuff that was sold in the 90s. Pour some oil in your intake, look, smoke (of course bloody smoke, you’re burning oil) and a short term octane boost from some aromatics in the mixtures.

P700DEE

1,111 posts

230 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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rxe said:
Anyone who has had a cyclinder head off the car will know that this stuff is complete snake oil.

Carbon on pistons and cylinder heads does not dissolve in anything that you could buy commercially or use outside a laboratory. There are probably some organic acids that could do it, but these are not the sort of things that you find in garages because they tend to dissolve people as well.

The only way you can get carbon off a head is by mechanical means (wire brushes and the like) or by really long term steam cleaning (which is why pistons in engines with busted head gaskets are often shiny clean).

It’s no different to the Redex stuff that was sold in the 90s. Pour some oil in your intake, look, smoke (of course bloody smoke, you’re burning oil) and a short term octane boost from some aromatics in the mixtures.
You can easily clean carbon off the pistons etc. as anyone who has had headgasket failure will tell you. Water at high temperatures and under pressure will do a great job wink My XKR had headgasket issues and the pistons were looking great. I've had my BMW diesel Terracleaned at 105K miles. It's only had long journeys since and returns a couple of mpg more than it used to and now has 156K miles on it. I had the job done in case it was a missfire causing the engine vibration, turned out however it was failing DMF.