Speeding - how many tickets can you get in one day??

Speeding - how many tickets can you get in one day??

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bonesX

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902 posts

180 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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I thought there was some rule only one offence.

If there are multiple, then the worst is taken...true, or am I just imagining it?

Steffan

10,362 posts

228 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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bonesX said:
I thought there was some rule only one offence.

If there are multiple, then the worst is taken...true, or am I just imagining it?
No such rule IMO. You could break many limits and be prosecuted each time.

vonhosen

40,233 posts

217 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Depends on circumstances.
In some cases multiple incidence will count as one offence, in others they won't.

bonesX

Original Poster:

902 posts

180 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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vonhosen said:
Depends on circumstances.
In some cases multiple incidence will count as one offence, in others they won't.
What might be an example of such cases?

vonhosen

40,233 posts

217 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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bonesX said:
vonhosen said:
Depends on circumstances.
In some cases multiple incidence will count as one offence, in others they won't.
What might be an example of such cases?
Same road ?
Same limit ?
Distance apart ?
Time apart ?
etc etc

speedking31

3,556 posts

136 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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If you passed through 2 cameras without slowing down in between?

Otherwise PC Speedgun could ping you 4 times as you approached and you could be banned for effectively one offence

Steffan

10,362 posts

228 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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If a driver breaks several speed limits there is no limit to the number of prosecutions. However the Police can chose not to pursue all charges, some charges, most charges, whatever. So far as I am aware the Police/CPS have no limits on prosecuting offences other than their judgment on which charges to pursue.

surveyor

17,822 posts

184 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Father in-law managed 3. Same camera.

Up, down and then up again. Probably lucky he went a different way back!

Steffan

10,362 posts

228 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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surveyor said:
Father in-law managed 3. Same camera.

Up, down and then up again. Probably lucky he went a different way back!
Excellent example. I do not think there is any limit as such it must depend on the circumstances. However I would expect the Magistrates to be pretty amenable to a sympathetic presentation of a limit to any disqualification for offences committed during the same journey. No defence as such however.

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

248 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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There are cases of people being disqualified for 4+ speeding offences on the same day.

Steffan

10,362 posts

228 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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IanMorewood said:
There are cases of people being disqualified for 4+ speeding offences on the same day.
I do not doubt it. As others have said the outcome would depend on the particular case.

RtdRacer

1,274 posts

201 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Steffan said:
surveyor said:
Father in-law managed 3. Same camera.

Up, down and then up again. Probably lucky he went a different way back!
Excellent example. I do not think there is any limit as such it must depend on the circumstances. However I would expect the Magistrates to be pretty amenable to a sympathetic presentation of a limit to any disqualification for offences committed during the same journey. No defence as such however.
TO be honest, not really. Mags take the view that if you speed consistently and get 4 offences (triggering a totting appearance), you deserve to be banned, unless you can prove Ex. Hardship.

If you did it in one day or in one month matters relatively little. You don't get mitigation for it all being in one journey...

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

188 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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RtdRacer said:
Steffan said:
surveyor said:
Father in-law managed 3. Same camera.

Up, down and then up again. Probably lucky he went a different way back!
Excellent example. I do not think there is any limit as such it must depend on the circumstances. However I would expect the Magistrates to be pretty amenable to a sympathetic presentation of a limit to any disqualification for offences committed during the same journey. No defence as such however.
TO be honest, not really. Mags take the view that if you speed consistently and get 4 offences (triggering a totting appearance), you deserve to be banned, unless you can prove Ex. Hardship.

If you did it in one day or in one month matters relatively little. You don't get mitigation for it all being in one journey...
The only mitigation I can think of, in the example above, providing the signs are legal, is if the limit has been recently changed, and you're local ......... I've done it, I bet others have too !

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Where TF do people get this stuff from? Yes, it is an ancient and well respected rule of the law that if you commit any offence first thing in the morning, you can commit the same offence all day with impunity. This applies to everything from careless parking to multiple rape-murder. As soon as it strikes midnight, everything turns into a pumpkin, and you have to start again. Really, OP, just think about your proposition for half a nano second, will you? In what society would such a rule exist? What policy could it serve? If something sounds stupid and far fetched, it usually is.

markomah

652 posts

219 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Breadvan72 said:
Where TF do people get this stuff from? Yes, it is an ancient and well respected rule of the law that if you commit any offence first thing in the morning, you can commit the same offence all day with impunity. This applies to everything from careless parking to multiple rape-murder. As soon as it strikes midnight, everything turns into a pumpkin, and you have to start again. Really, OP, just think about your proposition for half a nano second, will you? In what society would such a rule exist? What policy could it serve? If something sounds stupid and far fetched, it usually is.
Excellent mini-rant! biggrin

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Cheers! I take pride in my work, and it's good to be noticed!

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

217 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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If you take the example of someone being caught on the motorway by two consecutive speed traps on the same road, in the same speed limit, without dropping speed between them, it has been argued (successfully I believe) that it is one offence, captured twice.

Get caught in a 30 limit, then half a mile later in a 40 limit, then by the same two cameras on your way home, and you wouldn't have the same argument, but you would have need of a bus pass.

markomah

652 posts

219 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Breadvan72 said:
Cheers! I take pride in my work, and it's good to be noticed!
Consider it a small collegial nod from the Dublin Bar - we knows the good stuff when we sees it!

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

188 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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markomah said:
Breadvan72 said:
Where TF do people get this stuff from? Yes, it is an ancient and well respected rule of the law that if you commit any offence first thing in the morning, you can commit the same offence all day with impunity. This applies to everything from careless parking to multiple rape-murder. As soon as it strikes midnight, everything turns into a pumpkin, and you have to start again. Really, OP, just think about your proposition for half a nano second, will you? In what society would such a rule exist? What policy could it serve? If something sounds stupid and far fetched, it usually is.
Excellent mini-rant! biggrin
I thought it was a tad harsh, especially for breadvan, I was taught there weren't any stupid questions, only stupid answers.

The op asked politely enough, he isn't claiming it is fact,he isn't claiming to be a lawyer, on a discussion forum he's asking a question !

markomah

652 posts

219 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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Nigel Worc's said:
I thought it was a tad harsh, especially for breadvan, I was taught there weren't any stupid questions, only stupid answers.

The op asked politely enough, he isn't claiming it is fact,he isn't claiming to be a lawyer, on a discussion forum he's asking a question !
Well, by my use of the word 'rant', I thought I made it clear that I acknowledged that Breadvan72's post was choleric, opinionated and potentially disproportionate.

Personally, I found it a very amusing and apposite demonstration of a reductio ad absurdum argument and (very possibly because I've had a horrible head cold all week, and self-medicated with liberal hot whiskies this evening) it made me laugh out loud.

For the avoidance of doubt, my comment wasn't intended to belittle the OP.

Edited by markomah on Saturday 2nd March 00:23