RE: De Tomaso Longchamp: You Know You Want To

RE: De Tomaso Longchamp: You Know You Want To

Thursday 7th March 2013

De Tomaso Longchamp: You Know You Want To

Italian styling and American muscle in one



The very name ‘De Tomaso’ sends a shiver of excitement down the spine; collection of Italianate syllables that’s as evocative as any of the best-known supercar makers. But while its big, sleek coupes – Mangusta and Pantera most notably – met with plenty of recognition in the company’s heyday, its luxury cars have, even to this day, remained relatively obscure.

One of the best rear ends of the 70s?
One of the best rear ends of the 70s?
How’s about the Deauville, for example? Remembered only by a few hardcore Italian car fans, this four-door saloon in the vein of the Maserati Quattroporte, with which it shared its chassis, was an obvious influence on Jaguar’s designers when they came to style the XJ40 XJ6. Unlike the XJ6, though, only 244 Deauvilles were made, making it one of the most exclusive and little-known of all the 70s executive saloons.

The Deauville did, however, spawn a two-door version: the Longchamp. It used the same 330hp 5.8-litre Ford V8 as the Deauville and the Pantera, but housed it within a  two-door, three-box bodyshell. Inside, evidence of the blend between Italian and American became clear; while the sharply-styled interior was swathed in an Italianate mix of fine leather, wood and velour, it also featured a steering wheel directly lifted from a Ford Limited, and an enormous transmission tunnel atop which sat the tall shifter of the three-speed - count 'em - Ford Cruise-O-Matic gearbox. Meanwhile, the exterior was long, low and wide; again, styled with Italian flair (although admittedly looking a tad wonky from some angles), but American proportions.

Wide interior was lavishly-trimmed
Wide interior was lavishly-trimmed
This particular Longchamp is relatively well-known, being as it is the very car that our sister title Classic & Sports Car featured together with an Aston Martin V8 back in 2010. It featured in our Pic Of The Week, too, as a result, and it also features on the model’s Wikipedia page. Positively famous, then. Relatively few details about the car are given by the vendor, but a comprehensive history is noted, as is a selection of the relatively high specification that includes electric seats, air conditioning and dual fuel tanks. This one’s a late Series 2 car, and it’s a GTSE to boot, which means it got wider Campagnolo wheels, flared wheel arches, a rear spoiler, and de-rigeur quad headlights in lieu of the Mk1 Granada items that featured on the standard car. And while a tenner under £30,000 might seem like rather a lot for a car which hasn’t the cachet of a Pantera or the brand recognition of a Maserati, and which with that gearbox is probably a bit of a lummox to drive, you’d struggle to stop us from heading down there, cheque book in hand, if we won the lottery tomorrow.


DE TOMASO LONGCHAMP GTSE
Price:
£29,990
Why you should: It's an unutterably cool 70s Italian supercar nobody will have heard of
Why you shouldn't: It isn't cheap, it looks a bit odd, and the gearbox is old & slow

See the original ad here





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Dazed & Confused

Original Poster:

202 posts

204 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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Never heard of it before.

Saw the picture from the rear.

Now want it.

A lot.

LotusOmega375D

7,619 posts

153 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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Went for adrive in the much less Peter Stringfellow Maserati Kyalami version once. The quad-cam V8 makes it. You don't get that with this chubby thing.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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Unspeakably cool. Possible to retrofit a box more becoming of it? Presumably there's something with a few more speeds and a bit more zest that can be mated to the engine...

fjord

2,143 posts

137 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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You Know You Want To

No, no I do not, actually.

DanielSan

18,792 posts

167 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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Never seen or heard of it before, but there's something about it I like.

365daytonafan

283 posts

185 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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Looks like the dealer wants rid?

It's in Historics auction this weekend! http://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2013-03...


jimbro1000

1,619 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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Last saw one of these years ago at a car show in Edinburgh - wasn't taken with it in the flesh but the pictures of this one make it look far more attractive. Everything that the Maserati bi-turbo was trying to be but failed.

Not sure about the X1/9 scoops being used as engine bay vents though...

NGK210

2,926 posts

145 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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Looks like a Fiat 130 Coupe and a M-B SL's lovechild - and that's a compliment.

Wonder how much it'd cost to slot-in a used 6-speed ZF from a totalled Jag, Audi or BMW? scratchchin

Edited by NGK210 on Thursday 7th March 12:25

TIGA84

5,206 posts

231 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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TransmitterMan on here has one.

They are lovely things, the convertible looks better IMO.

ETA - I'm sure Rob who has the Deauville and a Guara will be along to answer questions shortly...

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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fjord said:
You Know You Want To

No, no I do not, actually.
I usually say that, but in this instance I agree with PH yikes Shocking I know!

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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fjord said:
You Know You Want To

No, no I do not, actually.
weird

myhandle

1,187 posts

174 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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I first saw one of these when I was about 10, in about 1990, with my Mum in Paris. It was on a road running parallel with the Champs Elysees, and it was very dark blue-black and gleaming. Mum and I had a good look; I had heard of a Pantera and had a Micro Machines Pantera (!) so I knew the brand but not the model. Fortunately it had a Longchamps badge so that was soon resolved. Anyhow, the owner soon appeared, and he was an extremely distinguished looking gentleman in his late 50s. The V8 fired up, and the car rumbled away. I will never forget it. I have only seen about 2 others since.

astra la vista

208 posts

134 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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DanielSan said:
Never seen or heard of it before, but there's something about it I like.
+1

the fact you could drive it around and not see another appeals to me. only 20 de tomaso cars (not specified) on howmanyleft.

nonplussed

3,338 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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Do not want for that money, no thanks. Ugly, Italian and thirsty are all fine. Hopeless dimwit slushbox is not.

J4CKO

41,560 posts

200 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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Very Purposeful, to me it looks like a Saloon version of this,






Kind of what the E39 5 Series was to the first X5.


My only memory of these was from when I was buying and selling cars from "Loot", there was some poor sod advertising, and never selling one of these, it was the Manchester edition and I swear he was sellign ti for years.

I can only imagine the original owners of these, this chap came to mind,


myhandle

1,187 posts

174 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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There is also the Maserati Kyalami, a heavily related car :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maserati_Kyalami

Stu R

21,410 posts

215 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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Transmitter Man's Longchamp GTS put me onto these in a big way, lovely cars. cloud9

mnx42

215 posts

163 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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myhandle said:
I first saw one of these when I was about 10, in about 1990, with my Mum in Paris. It was on a road running parallel with the Champs Elysees, and it was very dark blue-black and gleaming. Mum and I had a good look; I had heard of a Pantera and had a Micro Machines Pantera (!) so I knew the brand but not the model. Fortunately it had a Longchamps badge so that was soon resolved. Anyhow, the owner soon appeared, and he was an extremely distinguished looking gentleman in his late 50s. The V8 fired up, and the car rumbled away. I will never forget it. I have only seen about 2 others since.
Many years ago I saw a dark blue one in London.It looked fantastic to my (then) young eyes.
Not so sure now.....but Im now in my late forties and Ive never seen another one.

rossub

4,442 posts

190 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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Possibly the most comfortable looking seats I've ever seen in a car. Though I cant help but think they'd be better in a home cinema than an Italian Supercar.

LHD

17,000 posts

187 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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TIGA84 said:
TransmitterMan on here has one.

They are lovely things, the convertible looks better IMO.

ETA - I'm sure Rob who has the Deauville and a Guara will be along to answer questions shortly...
I'm 90% sure that was Rob's car.

There is a long, quite sad story behind it.