Blanking the EGR Valve....?

Blanking the EGR Valve....?

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Zuhayb

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122 posts

165 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Hi all,

I am thinking to blank off my egr valve, but need more info about this.

What are the benefits?

What part/s do i need to blank egr?

Would it be good on performance? (e.g. turbo lag)

How much would it cost to blank the egr valve?

Disco You

3,685 posts

180 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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It could well help if you share with the class which car/ engine you have... Don't you think?

McSam

6,753 posts

175 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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For most cars, a simple plate is sold to blank it off, and you just need to disable any actuators that operate it. In some cases you'll need to do some laptop work so that the car doesn't think there is a fault when you do this.

The benefits are improvements in fuel economy and/or performance, depending which you're driving for!

EGR is designed to limit NOx emissions by reducing the combustion temperatures, which is not usually a good thing for engine efficiency. I don't believe you'll have any issues at all come MOT time, so there's no reason against an EGR delete. I'd certainly get it done!

It won't really affect anything such as responsiveness, turbo spooling, etc - it'll just give you a slight efficiency gain and provide one less thing to go wrong.

Zuhayb

Original Poster:

122 posts

165 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Sorry...Car is Volvo S40 D5 (diesel) Sport 2007. I've been getting mixed answers, some say it's worth doing, and some say it will cause problems in the long run. I'm abit confused whether I should do it or not. Of course, I will get it remapped, dpf removal, and fit Milltek exhaust sometime this year.

I don't want the engine light to come on, as it will be difficult to sell later on the year/s.


TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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On a 2007 car, the light will come on, I'm not sure which EU emissions standard it'll be on, but I imagine it would be EU4 which means No EGR = check engine light.

If you are getting it remapped, that part should be able to be cancelled though.

McSam

6,753 posts

175 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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TheEnd said:
On a 2007 car, the light will come on, I'm not sure which EU emissions standard it'll be on, but I imagine it would be EU4 which means No EGR = check engine light.

If you are getting it remapped, that part should be able to be cancelled though.
My thoughts exactly, and as for it causing problems in the future.. Is the system you disabled to make the engine systems simpler going to break, or something? hehe

GroundEffect

13,836 posts

156 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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There are no benefits from blanking your EGR.

EGR is a good thing.


cirian75

4,260 posts

233 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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It was on the old XUD9 Pug engines

disabling it got rid of the 1500 to 2000 flat spot.

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

188 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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I thought the EGR's purpose was to get the engine up to temperature quicker? Therefore in theory getting the engine up to optimal temperature quicker?

EDIT, oops, my mistake. Just looked it up, proving you shouldn't take a mechanics' word as gospel!

littleredrooster

5,537 posts

196 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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cirian75 said:
It was on the old XUD9 Pug engines

disabling it got rid of the 1500 to 2000 flat spot.
No EGR on the old XUD9, shirley? Certainly not on the ones I had over the years. Later HDi engines might have had one.

Mr Happy

5,695 posts

220 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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It's useful to delete and blank on Vauxhalls too, as doing so stops the inlet manifold swirl flaps clogging up with crap leading to big bills.

ging84

8,897 posts

146 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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i blanked mine off on an old punto diesel as it was listed as a know fault with it jamming that could cause symptoms like i was having, made no difference though, it turned out to be the maf, which i disconnected and then it ran perfectly again, neither of these things seemed to make the blindest bit of difference to how it ran (except for not being like it was when it was broken), i was still just as st
i hated that car

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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littleredrooster said:
cirian75 said:
It was on the old XUD9 Pug engines

disabling it got rid of the 1500 to 2000 flat spot.
No EGR on the old XUD9, shirley? Certainly not on the ones I had over the years. Later HDi engines might have had one.
XUD9SD and TD both had it as-seen on the 406/306 etc (after 1995 from the dates on servicebox).

Edited by Krikkit on Thursday 14th March 11:52

DaveCWK

1,990 posts

174 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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You will actually slightly decrease cruising economy by removing egr. If it clogs, dirties the intake or is a general pain I would remove it.

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

188 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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DaveCWK said:
You will actually slightly decrease cruising economy by removing egr. If it clogs, dirties the intake or is a general pain I would remove it.
How?


StoatInACoat

1,354 posts

185 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Krikkit said:
littleredrooster said:
cirian75 said:
It was on the old XUD9 Pug engines

disabling it got rid of the 1500 to 2000 flat spot.
No EGR on the old XUD9, shirley? Certainly not on the ones I had over the years. Later HDi engines might have had one.
XUD9SD and TD both had it as-seen on the 406/306 etc (after 1995 from the dates on servicebox).

Edited by Krikkit on Thursday 14th March 11:52
Indeed. Ours did and it's unplugged but no pesky ECU to throw up a fault code.

cirian75

4,260 posts

233 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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StoatInACoat said:
Indeed. Ours did and it's unplugged but no pesky ECU to throw up a fault code.
I pretty sure that gen of pug with that motor could withstand a nukes EMP and still keep working.

DanielJames

7,543 posts

168 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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I disabled the one on my 320d a few times, performance went up, heavy foot meant mpg went down

Tbh I noticed the loss of MPG more than I did the gain in BHP so I soon connected it back up

I had the thought that BMW probably spent a lot of time making sure that EGR valve runs as efficiently as possible

StoatInACoat

1,354 posts

185 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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cirian75 said:
StoatInACoat said:
Indeed. Ours did and it's unplugged but no pesky ECU to throw up a fault code.
I pretty sure that gen of pug with that motor could withstand a nukes EMP and still keep working.
They are indestructible and I love the little empty plastic box that PSA left in the bay where the ECU lives on a "normal" 306. Only thing that'll kill it is eating some water as the airbox lives very low in the bay but our last one went on until 250k when dead axle syndrome killed it off.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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GroundEffect said:
There are no benefits from blanking your EGR.

EGR is a good thing.
No of course there aren't. rolleyes Do you even know what an EGR valve does?

http://www.fordwiki.co.uk/index.php/EGR_Valve_and_...

Take a a look at those pictures & tell me how having something that deliberately clogs your inlet manifold & ports with that amount of black st is a good thing and that removing it has no benefit whatsoever.

Just to add, I personally blanked mine off in a MK3 mondeo that had 80K on the clock, and not only should you notice a gain in MPG but you will also notice an improvement in performance.

As others have mentioned, it may cause your EML to come on but it won't affect anything else.