Sump how do you seal yours ?.

Sump how do you seal yours ?.

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Hoofa

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3,151 posts

209 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Ok got a gasket one of those new one at 20 quid, any tips on sealing the sump ?, loctite on bolt threads ?, hylomar ( a smear ) on the gasket ?, torques ?. Cheers

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Hylomar is good, how confident are you with a file? The sump pan is like the Himalayas, it'll seal better if you dress it before you fit it!

Biggest prob is loosening, not the torque.

db418BHP

8,655 posts

221 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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I think a lot of that deformation is due to overtightening of the bolts. Maybe as someone has thought it may stop a leak when it just makes it worse.

TVR Beaver

2,867 posts

181 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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I would not file it flat as you are just making the situation worst by making the metal thinner... try localy hammer the face flat if it is pushed up around the holes...

phazed

21,844 posts

205 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Is that one of those stouter looking gaskets from eBay?

I fit a stud on each side for easy alignment and a very thin smear of Hylomar, both sides.

Don't over tighten as said.

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

180 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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I recommend fitting the Rover SD1 type spreader plate on the widely spaced rear bolts.

For some reason this little plate got deleted on later Rover V8 engines, but it does do a great job of eliminating leaks from the rear of the sump gasket.



You can see it here too.



Well worth fitting it in my opinion.

db418BHP

8,655 posts

221 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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But clean it first hehe

estutjaweh

328 posts

156 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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I had to get the sump off a year(ish) ago and didn't have a gasket at hand when it came to re-fitting so I just gave everything a good clean and used that strange black silicon seal stuff. Its hasn't leaked since!

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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TVR Beaver said:
I would not file it flat as you are just making the situation worst by making the metal thinner... try localy hammer the face flat if it is pushed up around the holes...
yikes The problem (with mine) is the way they're pressed. Filing increases the mating area. Nige knows I can file with the best of them wink

db418BHP

8,655 posts

221 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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estutjaweh said:
I had to get the sump off a year(ish) ago and didn't have a gasket at hand when it came to re-fitting so I just gave everything a good clean and used that strange black silicon seal stuff. Its hasn't leaked since!
Daz shout

Tell us why you are called the Silicone kid

TVR Beaver

2,867 posts

181 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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BliarOut said:
yikes The problem (with mine) is the way they're pressed. Filing increases the mating area. Nige knows I can file with the best of them wink
It's a bit of tin laugh.. get in there with the big hammer and MAKE it flat smash

Or use Loctite 5900.. it will never leak again... but you will have problems getting it off...

I do know of people using self adhesive closed cell foam... wink and nothing more smile

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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I bet you're a bloody plater smash I'm a precision fitter by trade, ergo I file everythinghehe

TVR Beaver

2,867 posts

181 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Not quite, Aerospace for quite a lot of my working life laugh Just remember next time you get on any AirBus wink

Edited by TVR Beaver on Thursday 14th March 11:16

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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So that's why they're having so many problems with the 380 hehe

QBee

20,992 posts

145 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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estutjaweh said:
I had to get the sump off a year(ish) ago and didn't have a gasket at hand when it came to re-fitting so I just gave everything a good clean and used that strange black silicon seal stuff. Its hasn't leaked since!
I was reading the Steve Heath Bible last night to find out about sump baffles, and noticed that he said to do this - seal with Silicone sealant

phazed

21,844 posts

205 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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QBee said:
I was reading the Steve Heath Bible last night to find out about sump baffles, and noticed that he said to do this - seal with Silicone sealant
You need to put an even bead along the lip, gently bolt up the sump, leave overnight for the silicon to set then nip up.

Hoofa

Original Poster:

3,151 posts

209 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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ChimpOnGas said:
I recommend fitting the Rover SD1 type spreader plate on the widely spaced rear bolts.

For some reason this little plate got deleted on later Rover V8 engines, but it does do a great job of eliminating leaks from the rear of the sump gasket.



You can see it here too.



Well worth fitting it in my opinion.
Hmm good call, just ordered one, every little helps, also got loctite 542 for the bolt threads

QBee

20,992 posts

145 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Hoofa said:
Hmm good call, just ordered one, every little helps.....
Bugger me - never knew Tescos sold gaskets. Was that a Tesco Extra?

chris1972

3,597 posts

138 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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ChimpOnGas said:
I recommend fitting the Rover SD1 type spreader plate on the widely spaced rear bolts.

For some reason this little plate got deleted on later Rover V8 engines, but it does do a great job of eliminating leaks from the rear of the sump gasket.



You can see it here too.



Well worth fitting it in my opinion.
You can get the spreader plate from Rimmer Bros. I've got one of those Ebay gaskets, Hylomar stuff, spreader plate and a set of fresh bolts and washers ready to do the sump. Unfortunately, the weather has been pants, so I haven't had chance.

Pupp

12,234 posts

273 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Anyone tried the eBay rubber gaskets yet?