Take photos of bad cycling and send to your councillors..

Take photos of bad cycling and send to your councillors..

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Silver940

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3,961 posts

228 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Some people need to get a life

https://twitter.com/vizzitnewforest/status/3049821...

Ironically the sportive is promoted on their website

http://www.vizzitnewforest.com/business_news/new_f...

Posters up in New Forest pubs about this too, cyclists are already unfairly restricted in the New Forest...

I'll make sure I smile smile

paranoid airbag

2,679 posts

160 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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What's a "cylist"?
What's a "vizzit"?

IDGI confused

Looks a nice place to ride a bike though.

Silver940

Original Poster:

3,961 posts

228 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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It's a great place to ride, I do so several times a week. Just found this, made me chuckle

“Our New Forest agencies seem to be toothless tigers and powerless to stop this carnage."

http://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/10254953.Fe...


Rob_T

1,916 posts

252 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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i have family that live in lymington. the new forest is full of old people that mostly require ignoring.

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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NIMBYism at it's best. I'm inclined to find out where Anita Sibley lives, then do laps of her house until she gets dizzy.

Mrs Sibley added: “These huge events are putting local residents’ lives in danger.

Question:"How, for example, would an ambulance or fire engine reach a New Forest village in time if there were 4,000 cyclists blocking our roads?"
Answer: A damned site easier and quicker than it would in the Summer when tens of thousands of cars clog up the Forest roads, and are parked dumped badly at the side of roads and junctions.

"We need to ensure events are safe for pedestrians, livestock, drivers and cyclists."
Ooh! Think how much more dangerous it is to be run over by a reckless cyclist than by some RangeRover driving nut-job local, or Gladys the tourist, in her crappy Hyundai, who hasn't seen you because she's too busy staring at the fking livestock!

“They also need to be adequately publicised and policed. Many local residents are frightened to drive while these events take place.”
Well, Well. How does it feel when the boot is on the other foot?


“Which one of them will have the creativity and tenacity to plug this dangerous but lucrative loophole and save us New Forest residents from being invaded once again by a group of Lycra-clad lemmings?”
Just a typical ignorant, uninformed, selfish arse, really. Cyclists using the public highway? How very terrible. What, I wonder, does she propose to do to legislate against individual cyclists road users just turning up out of the blue in her beloved forest? Stupid, Stupid, Stupid woman.

edited for spelling

Edited by yellowjack on Wednesday 20th March 16:17

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Dear Anita,

I read with interest your recent editorial regarding the Wiggle sportive cycling events in the New Forest.

I am delighted to inform you that as a result of your editorial I will continue to holiday in Devon and Cornwall and I hope that many other cyclists choose not to visit the New Forest. Long may your hotels and tourist attractions suffer a decrease in takings.

Kind Regards,

Pablo

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

153 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Pfft - normal Daily Mail type pensioner rambling away to themself

'This part of the country should only be enjoyed in the way that I enjoy it as this least hinders my enjoyment. I am thinking up some paper thin excuses as to why other people trying to enjoy the forest in a way that differs from the way I do is dangerous. The reasons for this are twofold: firstly, I don't understand the attraction of it, and as such it is scary and morally reprehensible (the benchmark moral code for civilisation of course being my moral code); secondly, I have chosen to convince myself that the aforementioned paperthin excuses are valid reasons as it allows me to assuage the guilt of disrupting other peoples lives due to my selfish and ultimately incredibly childish whims.

The sad thing is - these vocal minorities are so damn stubborn they tend to get their way as 'normal people' have other things to worry about - and society is ultimately ruled by this petty, officious 'elite'.

  • Comments about Vocal Minorities refer to groups not specific individual. In no way should the above statements be interpreted as an admission of being petty, officious or in any way not normal. smile

scubadude

2,618 posts

198 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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What a total moron.

FWIW Did this last year, doing it again this year- lovely event through beautiful landscape.

Clearly the aforementioned plank didn't see the event as they'd have known its a staggered start, on any particular stretch of road you'd be lucky to see 50 cyclists, more likely 10-20 at a time.

MadDad

3,835 posts

262 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Isn't it amazing the damage and emotion an ignorant, ill informed individual can do given a public speakers platform, why does Gerald Ratner spring to mind.......?

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Makes me want to organise a cycling event down there biggrin

Silver940

Original Poster:

3,961 posts

228 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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BliarOut said:
Makes me want to organise a cycling event down there biggrin
make it off road if you really want to cause upset, you can ride your half tonne horse where you like but a 25lb bike... forget it! had a talking to from the warden tonight, first time in over two years. startling the livestock apparently..

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Silver940 said:
BliarOut said:
Makes me want to organise a cycling event down there biggrin
make it off road if you really want to cause upset, you can ride your half tonne horse where you like but a 25lb bike... forget it! had a talking to from the warden tonight, first time in over two years. startling the livestock apparently..
Farmer told me to clap if the cattle get in the way when I ride through his field. Startle a cow, not very bloody likely from what I've seen biggrin

47p2

1,518 posts

162 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Odd that Anita is happy to take money from a local cycle hire business that advertises on her website, maybe Wiggle should have everyone hire cycles from the said business and that would keep Anita happy.


Silver940

Original Poster:

3,961 posts

228 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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cheap publicity for her website maybe?

Here's what's going up around the forest in pubs etc

ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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BliarOut said:
Farmer told me to clap if the cattle get in the way when I ride through his field. Startle a cow, not very bloody likely from what I've seen biggrin
yes Clap or shout (or if need be, shove!) to move cattle out of the way when I'm out running.

As others have said on the OP, this is a classic case of someone thinking their way of enjoying the local area is the only valid way to do so, and then making up spurious "safety" concerns to justify the blinkered viewpoint.

Flood

176 posts

167 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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You could always supply her with photos, but of something else, something unpleasant...

scubadude

2,618 posts

198 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Silver940 said:
cheap publicity for her website maybe?

Here's what's going up around the forest in pubs etc
I notice the campaigners can't count... one says 4000, another 6000 when in fact its more like 1800-2000 per day at most, less if the weather crap and spread out in small groups.

The pointlessness of complaining about a cycling event (that will pass almost silently and unobserved to the majority) is mind boggling, good thing they don't have Rally's or a Racetrack near her, she's probably explode!

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Pah. Silly old cow. She lives in a village that barely existed until the 19th century, yet bangs on about 'damage' to the new Forest.

Does she live in a pretty thatched cottage that has been there since before records began? I hear you ask.

Why, no. She lives in an architecturally bankrupt BUNGALOW, on a cul-de-sac, in a post war estate that was, ironically, built on her beloved Forest. Height of hypocrisy if you ask me. The Forest is a constantly changing thing, which over the years has been used for everything from a Royal Hunting Ground to the site of 10 active airfields and a bomb testing range during the war. It has seen changes from re-forestation during the reign of William the Conqueror, to extensive tree-felling during WWII to support the war effort.

The poor woman would probably explode if she was transported back to the site of her home in June 1944. Tens of thousands of vehicles, hundreds of thousands of troops, all 'destroying' the forest while they waited to embark for Normandy. Add to that the active airfields to her East and West, both operating 'heavies' in support of the D-Day invasion.

She is a selfish NIMBY who couldn't smell her own hypocrisy if it took a dump on her top lip. She is as much part of the problem of 'too many people asking too much of too little infrastructure' as anyone else.

Sway, in 1872, had a population of <700 people living in 150 houses. Now it has 3311 (2001 census) and there are probably more than 150 houses on her stty little estate alone. What has she done to reduce the impact she, and her family have on the Forest? Why, I'll tell you shall I? She's ripped up a perfectly lovely front garden and covered it with gravel, on which she parks 3!!! cars. One of them is a 'gas-guzzling 4x4' (OK, it's just a Freelander, but she started first with the generalising/demonising).

The worst of all her crimes is her feckin' website. Despite all the extra wear and tear caused to her precious narrow lanes, which, by the way, are entirely unsuitable for large volumes of traffic, she actively encourages droves of muppets grockles tourists to trek there by car, choking up the roads, and driving so close to the edges of the surfaced road that the tarmac crumbles away. These evil holidaymakers drive at speed around the lanes, mowing down pedestrians and livestock left, right, and centre. And she is worried about the presence of a couple of thousand emissions-free lightweight bicycles for a few days a year? She is a joke.

Still. One good thing has come of this. I've checked googlemaps, and there are no parking restrictions or charges in force outside the house and it's in prime curtain-twitcher territory, so my car will be safe when I leave it parked there to go cycling in the New Forest come the summer. I wonder how she might react to seeing me haul my bike out of the boot of the car, right outside her crappy (and land-hungry) bungalow. Hell, I might even wear my tightest, thinnest, most 'anatomically obvious' Lycra, just for a giggle.

So, Anita Sibley/Anita Gresham-Hale, or whatever you currently call yourself. Take your Hypocrisy, put it in a biscuit tin, then shove it where the sun will never find it.

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Silver940 said:
cheap publicity for her website maybe?

Here's what's going up around the forest in pubs etc
What exactly do they mean by "AT SPEED" ???

If they mean 'well below the speed limit posted for Motor Traffic upon the public highway' I don't see what the problem is. As far as I was aware the speed limit on the bulk of the roads within the New Forest National Park is 40mph. In villages and towns it is 30mph, much as it would be anywhere else. With the speeds of sportive Cyclists being in the region of 14 to 26mph for the most part, there would appear to be no conflict at all. It would seem to be all in her mind.

Silver940

Original Poster:

3,961 posts

228 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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yellowjack said:
Pah. Silly old cow. She lives in a village that barely existed until the 19th century, yet bangs on about 'damage' to the new Forest.

Does she live in a pretty thatched cottage that has been there since before records began? I hear you ask.

Why, no. She lives in an architecturally bankrupt BUNGALOW, on a cul-de-sac, in a post war estate that was, ironically, built on her beloved Forest. Height of hypocrisy if you ask me. The Forest is a constantly changing thing, which over the years has been used for everything from a Royal Hunting Ground to the site of 10 active airfields and a bomb testing range during the war. It has seen changes from re-forestation during the reign of William the Conqueror, to extensive tree-felling during WWII to support the war effort.

The poor woman would probably explode if she was transported back to the site of her home in June 1944. Tens of thousands of vehicles, hundreds of thousands of troops, all 'destroying' the forest while they waited to embark for Normandy. Add to that the active airfields to her East and West, both operating 'heavies' in support of the D-Day invasion.

She is a selfish NIMBY who couldn't smell her own hypocrisy if it took a dump on her top lip. She is as much part of the problem of 'too many people asking too much of too little infrastructure' as anyone else.

Sway, in 1872, had a population of <700 people living in 150 houses. Now it has 3311 (2001 census) and there are probably more than 150 houses on her stty little estate alone. What has she done to reduce the impact she, and her family have on the Forest? Why, I'll tell you shall I? She's ripped up a perfectly lovely front garden and covered it with gravel, on which she parks 3!!! cars. One of them is a 'gas-guzzling 4x4' (OK, it's just a Freelander, but she started first with the generalising/demonising).

The worst of all her crimes is her feckin' website. Despite all the extra wear and tear caused to her precious narrow lanes, which, by the way, are entirely unsuitable for large volumes of traffic, she actively encourages droves of muppets grockles tourists to trek there by car, choking up the roads, and driving so close to the edges of the surfaced road that the tarmac crumbles away. These evil holidaymakers drive at speed around the lanes, mowing down pedestrians and livestock left, right, and centre. And she is worried about the presence of a couple of thousand emissions-free lightweight bicycles for a few days a year? She is a joke.

Still. One good thing has come of this. I've checked googlemaps, and there are no parking restrictions or charges in force outside the house and it's in prime curtain-twitcher territory, so my car will be safe when I leave it parked there to go cycling in the New Forest come the summer. I wonder how she might react to seeing me haul my bike out of the boot of the car, right outside her crappy (and land-hungry) bungalow. Hell, I might even wear my tightest, thinnest, most 'anatomically obvious' Lycra, just for a giggle.

So, Anita Sibley/Anita Gresham-Hale, or whatever you currently call yourself. Take your Hypocrisy, put it in a biscuit tin, then shove it where the sun will never find it.
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