"End of Britain" - economic collapse. Is this crap?
"End of Britain" - economic collapse. Is this crap?
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Dog Star

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17,632 posts

198 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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StevieBee

15,417 posts

285 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Well, it is rather worrying isn't it.

However, all is not lost because if I decide that the expert advice in MoneyWeek is well worth having every week, then they’d like to offer me a very attractive price indeed...

The usual cost of MoneyWeek is £175.95 for a full year.

But they want me to benefit from their insights and advice, and not be inhibited by the price. So, if I decide to continue receiving MoneyWeek after my 3 FREE issues, they’d like to offer me a special subscription for only £19.95 every 13 weeks (13 issues) through Direct Debit. That’s a saving of 56% off the cover price.

Wow. How can I resist?

Not saying I'm cynical or anything.......


TheEnd

15,370 posts

218 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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I gave up after he kept going on and on in an overly long intro.




borris morris

496 posts

174 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Think of everything that has happened in the past five years. If you had been told in 2006 all this was about to unfold, what would you have said?

Newc

2,195 posts

212 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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The underlying facts are correct. The conclusions drawn are a little....stretched.

It's entirely correct to say that public spending is still going up, that the deficit and the debt are still rising and the prospect of budget surpluses and being able to pay down any debt keep retreating to the future. This unpleasant fact is not going to go away, but will be surpressed as long as possible by zero interest rates and QE fired inflation.

It is possible, but unlikely, that the UK will go the way of Argentina. I suspect that the MoneyWeek solution, to be revealed only to those canny enough to subscribe, will involve buying lots of physical precious metals and a small patch of farmland and burying one in the other.

motco

17,654 posts

276 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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We had a link to this journal before, and they offered a the subscriber a way to avoid the Armageddon that is coming. Cheap at twice the price, obviously...

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Newc said:
I suspect that the MoneyWeek solution will involve buying lots of physical precious metals and a small patch of farmland and burying one in the other.
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StevieBee

15,417 posts

285 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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This is nothing other than sensationalist, cynical marketing designed to increased subscription sales of a magazine with a vested interest in the subject matter.

One of the more broader current affairs magazines did a similar thing after the 7/7 attacks, threatening all manner of violence and mayhem and made a compelling case that subscribing to their magazine would protect you from all that.

I've no doubt that Money Week have made some accurate predictions but you could use the same data and arrive at a different conclusion if it suited your marketing purposes to do so.

Some very good reasons to disregard this video here:

http://coppolacomment.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/the-e...

IIRC, Money Week is owned by those who lean to the left so may also give a slightly skewed opinion of the actions.

turbobloke

117,363 posts

290 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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As long as you remember where you buried the precious metals all will be well wink

Fittster

20,120 posts

243 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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StevieBee said:
IIRC, Money Week is owned by those who lean to the left so may also give a slightly skewed opinion of the actions.
No it's not. Gold Bug libertarians would be a more accurate portrait.

They often market themselves as offering protection from financial armageddon. They have never been correct with this protection yet, however if you predict the end of the world long enough eventually you'll be proved right.

cloggy

4,959 posts

239 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Those fker at Reader Digest are even worse.
fking thieves.

eldar

25,306 posts

226 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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cloggy said:
Those fker at Reader Digest are even worse.
fking thieves.
And not very good ones...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/me...

ninja-lewis

5,471 posts

220 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Newc said:
It is possible, but unlikely, that the UK will go the way of Argentina. I suspect that the MoneyWeek solution, to be revealed only to those canny enough to subscribe, will involve buying lots of physical precious metals and a small patch of farmland and burying one in the other.
A perfect example of how retail 'investors' are taken advantage of.

Any serious investor knows that the real way to make money from burying precious metals in farmland is to raise financing from retail 'investors' on AIM to mine said farmland metals!

craigjm

21,619 posts

230 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Hmm. It is a bit skewed to say the least. We are servicing our debt and have not defaulted so how if the state was an individual would we have been made bankrupt by now? Are we really expecting to repay debt rather than just make sure we can service our payments?


Eric Mc

125,779 posts

295 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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They keep e-mailing me with this same message. I wish they'd stop.

Stig

11,823 posts

314 months

Eric Mc

125,779 posts

295 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Good article.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

254 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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craigjm said:
Hmm. It is a bit skewed to say the least. We are servicing our debt and have not defaulted so how if the state was an individual would we have been made bankrupt by now? Are we really expecting to repay debt rather than just make sure we can service our payments?
We are defaulting. Inflation + QE is a form of soft default. Buying your own debt with printed currency is definately default, its two fingers up at your creditors. Raising the age of retirement is defaulting on moral obligations to pay pensions to individuals who may have have paid NI on earnings for 50 years on the premise of retirement.

craig7l

1,135 posts

296 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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I actually think its a good article (if you can forget the money week answer for £175 a year) and the only thing of debate is the outcome...

However I much prefer this independent that only requires a pint of beer...

http://www.debtbombshell.com/

Edited by craig7l on Monday 10th June 22:41

Blue Oval84

5,397 posts

191 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Stig said:
Thank fk you posted that, I read the first article knowing full well that it would only depress me before bed, and it did (think I was about to have a nightmare about having to grow my own food and medicines), but the blog you linked to cheered me right back up again. Thanks smile