RE: Porsche Panamera facelift: Review

RE: Porsche Panamera facelift: Review

Monday 24th June 2013

Porsche Panamera facelift: Review

Fewer cylinders, more turbos and a 167mph 100mpg hybrid - PH drives the new Porsche Panamera



I find myself stifling a smile during the press presentation as the Porsche talking head talks of the 'giant strides' and the 'most striking differences' between this facelift and the previous incarnation. Perhaps it's all in the translation but in truth, it's blink and you'd miss it stuff that involves new lights (including optional full LED headlamps) and bumper treatments front and rear and the odd crisper edge to creases here and there.

Spot the difference? Turbo as mighty as ever
Spot the difference? Turbo as mighty as ever
That means it still has uncomfortable angles and still looks bulky at the bum. It means also that as many will loathe its styling as love it. But the presence and unmistakable 'Porscheness' remain and that, I suppose, is entirely the point.

A few extra inches
Bigger changes come under the skin with the introduction of a new 3.0-litre V6 bi-turbo replacing the outgoing 4.8-litre V8 in the S and 4S models. A long-wheelbase Executive version is also added, with an extra 12cm of rear legroom and greater seat adjustment for those customers who buy a sports saloon for the chauffeur to appreciate.

The new E-Hybrid sees its air-cooled NiMH batteries replaced with a water-cooled Li-Ion setup and power up to 95hp at 2,200-2,600rpm and torque at 229lb ft from 0-1,700rpm from the E-motor. That is teamed with a 333hp 3.0-litre supercharged petrol engine of Audi parentage. The result is the kind of spec sheet that looks like a mistake: 167mph, 0-62mph in 5.5 seconds, 91mpg and just 71g/km of CO2.

More legroom with new LWB version
More legroom with new LWB version
This is now a proper plug-in, too. The charging kit that comes in the boot can be plugged into a normal mains supply and the battery completely charged in just four hours (or two on a 400v system).

This or a Prius
The hybrid model is certainly an impressive demonstration of technological know-how but it is also surprisingly cohesive to drive.

We tackle the first 30-odd kilometres through town, country and on motorway. We overtake, we sample the full-mash 416hp petrol/electric power splurge. Basically, we drive pretty normally. And return a little under 100mpg. It's astonishing. A more committedly 'eco' colleague records a scarcely creditable 2,400mpg on the same stretch. Yes, really.

On all-season rubber (a no cost option but one that offers the benefit of lower rolling resistance) there's discernibly more push and lots more tyre squeal, but the handling and control still impress - especially given its near 2,100kg kerb weight.

But GTS is the one if you want to drive yourself
But GTS is the one if you want to drive yourself
Porsche cites those techno-friendly early adopters and those who wish to enjoy a luxury sports machine with a clear conscience as potential customers. Tax write-off advantages, low BIK (just five per cent) and the ability to dodge the congestion charge might also attract business users and city slickers in the UK. Last year hybrids made up 10 per cent of Panamera sales and this version is a considerable step up in every area.

From eight to six...
The best all rounder is the new V6 S, which we drove in its four-wheel drive incarnation. The engine is based on the carcass of the previous V8, swapping a pair of cylinders for a pair of turbochargers. It delivers 420hp, 383lb ft from 1,750-5,000 rpm and returns over 30mpg.

Lighter, pokier and more efficient, the powerplant sounds good and the turbo delivery gives a massive spread of accessible torque. It has a smoother feel and sound to the V8 which suits the Panamera's luxury credentials at cruise, but it is responsive and muscular when required.

Just as pretty as before, which is to say not at all
Just as pretty as before, which is to say not at all
Of course, there are ways to customise the sound, feel and performance of the Panamera at the push of a button or two. Dampers are best left in the softest setting. The sports exhaust adds a certain fruitiness when pressing on but unwelcome boom and bass on the motorway. This is exacerbated, somewhat, by the new function that puts the engine to idle when coasting, rather than maintaining engine revs. That means the tacho needle can be dipping and bobbing a surprising amount without you actually doing anything. But it all helps to improve economy and reduce emissions, of course.

...and seven to eight
Gearbox options are now limited to the seven-speed PDK for the petrol variants and eight-speed Tiptronic for the diesel and the E-Hybrid. Not that either leaves you short-changed, it has to be said. With a proper paddle arrangement, PDK is brilliant when pointing the Panamera up a snaking piece of Alpine asphalt but is also smooth and discreet when in town or on the motorway and left to its own devices.

Detail tweaks here; still a great place to be
Detail tweaks here; still a great place to be
For sheer driving pleasure, the GTS seems like a PH kind of pick. If the on-paper stats look similar to the 4S (440hp, 383lb ft, 0-62 in 4.4 seconds, top speed 179mph) the gulf in character is surprisingly wide. The GTS sounds and feels harder and tighter from the off. The V8 engine is more strident, the staccato bassline more overtly sporting without being intrusive. The ride is firmer, even in the softer setting, but perfectly acceptable at least on these well-maintained European roads.

The GTS's ability to mask its bulk and girth is remarkable. And while it doesn't ever feel small, it has such accuracy, such grip and such composure that you rarely feel as if you are close to breaching its limits. This in turn encourages you to push harder - just to marvel at the beast's defiance of the laws of physics. I can't help thinking that if you tried to tackle these roads with similar verve in a 'normal' luxury saloon, you'd be in the trees by turn two.

Mighty on autobahn, probably wasted on M25
Mighty on autobahn, probably wasted on M25
The GTS is without doubt the most enjoyable to drive - it feels somehow more analogue, more involving, despite having just as much electrickery at its disposal. Truth is, however, it is one that sits least comfortably in the range and will definitely be a niche sell in Europe

Beast til last
Our last blast is in the Turbo. While much of the autobahn network is now speed limited, swathes of it between Garmisch and Munich are still mercifully liberated. Sparse traffic enables us to really explore the might of the Turbo's blown V8 - 520hp and an epic 531lb ft of torque, lifted to 568lb ft on overboost.

Short bursts of throttle enable you to head deep into three figures and one longer straight sees an indicated 298km/h - which is about 185mph. The disdainful ease with which it mullers miles and the calm, cool comfort that cocoons it occupants in the process shows the Panamera's range of ability. A proper transcontinental missile, this, for those with pockets deep enough (£108K for starters...).

The one model which was conspicuous by its absence, however, was the diesel. It makes up over 50 per cent of Panamera sales in the UK - even more on the continent. With its £63K price and 45mpg frugality, it's hard to see that changing in the immediate future.


PORSCHE PANAMERA 4S
Engine
: 2,997cc V6, twin-turbocharged
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch auto (PDK), four-wheel drive
Power: 420hp@6,000rpm
Torque: 384lb ft@1,750-5,500rpm
0-62mph: 4.8 seconds
Top speed: 177mph
Weight: 1,870kg
MPG: 31.2
CO2: 208g/km
Price: £85,721

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D200

Original Poster:

514 posts

147 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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"And return a little under 100mpg. It's astonishing. A more committedly 'eco' colleague records a scarcely creditable 2,400mpg on the same stretch. Yes, really"

That is pretty astonishing alright!

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Mighty impressive car... but it's still one of the ugliest things ever to grace our roads.

I'd happily own one if I needed a barge though - you can't see how ugly it is from inside. smile


I'm guessing the reason for the silly economy figures is that the thing was fully charged when you left, and not fully charged when you finished your 30km drive. If it did a large chunk of the trip on mains power, the mpg figure is rather meaningless.

Stu R

21,410 posts

215 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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I'd have the GTS in a heartbeat.
Really don't see them as an ugly car - quite the opposite. Rare opinion on here I know, but it's much less revolting than many other uber-barges to my eyes.
Not totally sold on the rear, but then it never was the most photogenic of cars, significantly better in the metal though IMO.

Edited by Stu R on Monday 24th June 14:57

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Stu R said:
... but then it never was the most photogenic of cars, significantly better in the metal though IMO.
Strangely, for me it's the other way around - it's only moderately offensive in pictures (which hide the sheer size of the thing) but truly, truly foul in the metal.

WCZ

10,523 posts

194 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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drove a gts, nice engine and throttle response but was fairly unimpressed overall

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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That hybrid sounds rather magnificent, put it into an A7 body please!

CDP

7,459 posts

254 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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kambites said:
I'm guessing the reason for the silly economy figures is that the thing was fully charged when you left, and not fully charged when you finished your 30km drive. If it did a large chunk of the trip on mains power, the mpg figure is rather meaningless.
For a lot of people 30km per day on battery might cover their commuting needs at which point it becomes very meaningful.

It would be interesting to see how it averages over several months compared with the regular petrol and diesel models though.

NGK210

2,925 posts

145 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Blimey, a few tweaks to the front and rear bumpers' styling and it now looks kinda OK and much more svelte.

With 4WD and the V8 turbo onboard, a Panamera would be a useful town-gaff-to-country-pad commuter. In dark metallic blue with a black cabin, please smile

omgus

7,305 posts

175 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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The hybrid figure is mental!

I do like the Panamera, it has grown on my steadily over the last few years.

ajprice

27,473 posts

196 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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The update to the front and especially the back does help the looks a lot. I sat in one at Cholmondley, I was surprised that the doors were fairly small, and getting in, you kind of fall backwards into the seat behind the B pillar (I'm 6'6"), comfortable enough inside the car though.

yellowjack

17,077 posts

166 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Breaking News!

Engineers in Leipzig working on a facelift for the Porsche Panamera have, it is claimed, conclusively proven that you cannot polish a turd.

Having established this as scientific fact, the team will now move on, to the Cayenne production line, where they will try to determine whether it is, in fact, possible to make a silk purse from a sow's ear.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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CDP said:
kambites said:
I'm guessing the reason for the silly economy figures is that the thing was fully charged when you left, and not fully charged when you finished your 30km drive. If it did a large chunk of the trip on mains power, the mpg figure is rather meaningless.
For a lot of people 30km per day on battery might cover their commuting needs at which point it becomes very meaningful.
Indeed, I wasn't saying it was a bad thing, just that measuring what is essentially an electric car in terms of mpg is a bit silly. I'd imagine that 2400mpg could probably easily have been infinite with a little more care so the petrol engine didn't have to fire up at all. smile

PGM

2,168 posts

249 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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yellowjack said:
Breaking News!

Engineers in Leipzig working on a facelift for the Porsche Panamera have, it is claimed, conclusively proven that you cannot polish a turd.

Having established this as scientific fact, the team will now move on, to the Cayenne production line, where they will try to determine whether it is, in fact, possible to make a silk purse from a sow's ear.
That's really funny, well done.

CDP

7,459 posts

254 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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kambites said:
Indeed, I wasn't saying it was a bad thing, just that measuring what is essentially an electric car in terms of mpg is a bit silly. I'd imagine that 2400mpg could probably easily have been infinite with a little more care so the petrol engine didn't have to fire up at all. smile
It probably wasn't running during the 2400mpg period. I can imagine this doing very well in California and deservedly so.

GroundEffect

13,836 posts

156 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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D200 said:
"And return a little under 100mpg. It's astonishing. A more committedly 'eco' colleague records a scarcely creditable 2,400mpg on the same stretch. Yes, really"

That is pretty astonishing alright!
Completely pointless as that 2400mpg segment would be offset by the next drive-cycle used to recharge the system or under full petrol power...and I doubt that would be quite as good on fuel wink

toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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I think it looks great. Don't see the point of the "facelift" though.

It can seat grown-ups in the back for long distances, something its competitors fail to do as well.

It has a longer roof and a fatter arse for a reason. If the Aston Rapide was designed for adults rather than Hobbits, it would end up looking pretty much the same as the Panamera.

CDP

7,459 posts

254 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Krikkit said:
That hybrid sounds rather magnificent, put it into an A7 body please!
In a Chummy that would be completely mental. Especially if it's on those Chinese moped tyres.

Caviar

209 posts

206 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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porsche should have never screwed up with the panamera's styling and strangely they did. exceptional car otherwise with an exceptional interior. it does look better in real, facelift really looks unnecessary and probably done only to put it on press. if they wanted to do a facelift then they should brought the panamera sport turismo concept to life

Edited by Caviar on Monday 24th June 17:53

lenandsons

1,317 posts

233 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Love this ca, would have a GTS in a hertbeat however prices here in Canada are a fair distance north of stupid

ajprice

27,473 posts

196 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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If they go with the rear end of the Sport Turismo concept for the next Panamera, all will be good.