Interference/non interference engines?

Interference/non interference engines?

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J4CKO

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41,560 posts

200 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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I was wondering why most cars with cambelts have such a critical relationship between the valves and pistons given the carnage that ensues if the belt brakes, I know some engines dont have
the possibility of the valves and pistons colliding so it can obviously be done, is it that is isnt normally a consideration if the belt is changed to the intervals or is it an engine design, packaging or compression thing, i.e. is a non interference engine a bit taller, lower compression or something ?

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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J4CKO said:
i.e. is a non interference engine a bit taller, lower compression or something ?
This must play a part in it.

On NA engines if you can get the valves/pistons as close as possible you can run high compression which equals more power.

I guess as well there is a link between the shapes of the combustion chamber and the head design which may influence the design for example when you see pistons notched on just the inlet side.

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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When you have a non-interference engine, I'm fairly sure the gap means it will not be able to run much compression, meaning low power. My experience of non-interference engines is also dire specific output, my old 1.3L Fiesta with the Endura engine only had something like 55bhp.

Mave

8,208 posts

215 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Don't forget, valve lift is part of the equation smile

eltax91

9,878 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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One assumes the lower compression ratio makes them marginally less economical too

The 1.8 mx5 I have has 140bhp and gets about 30mpg. Given its engine size and low weight, that's not great.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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The engine in the Mk1 and Mk2 MX5 is a non interference engine, and as described here has a low compression ratio and fairly low specific output. It's origins as a turbocharged engine in the 323 is usually blamed. Nice to not have to bother changing the belt until you feel like it though!

LocoBlade

7,622 posts

256 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Non interference means low compression and/or low valve lift, neither of which are desirable features of a modern engine that needs to produce good power and burn fuel efficiently.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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eltax91 said:
One assumes the lower compression ratio makes them marginally less economical too

The 1.8 mx5 I have has 140bhp and gets about 30mpg. Given its engine size and low weight, that's not great.
140bhp from an N/A 1.8 isn't bad at all, I presume they've sacrificed efficiency for a bit more power.

rigga

8,730 posts

201 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Valve angle plays a part too along with the amount of valves, 2 valve heads can run the valves vertically in line with piston travel in the bore, 4 valve heads need the valves to be angled in order for them to fit in the combustion chamber, this limits clearance between valve when open and piston at tdc.