Electric Power Steering
Electric Power Steering
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Chunky Dave

Original Poster:

48 posts

170 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Hi,
I'm thinking of having a Lloyd Specialist Developments electric steering system fitted to my 4.0 Chimp.
Anybody else had this fitted to their cars and can offer feedback for me.
Cheers,
Dave

phazed

22,457 posts

233 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Tsk, tsk, it's chim, (again).






I was going down this route then fitted a Subaru PS rack and electric pump.

EGB

1,774 posts

186 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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phazed said:
Tsk, tsk, it's chim, (again).






I was going down this route then fitted a Subaru PS rack and electric pump.
Peter. Interesting modification this. Is there a comprehensive write up on this Subaru mod. Where to get and who can do etc.

Chilliman

12,419 posts

190 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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ears

chris1972

3,597 posts

166 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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I'm interested in Subaru mod. Sardonicus was talking about it yesterday. Any chance of somebody getting a guide together?

Else

795 posts

267 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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ears +1

Chunky Dave

Original Poster:

48 posts

170 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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phazed said:
Tsk, tsk, it's chim, (again).






I was going down this route then fitted a Subaru PS rack and electric pump.
Sorry Chim..... my big. That sounds interesting, where can I find out more about this mod?

Bassfiend229hp

5,530 posts

279 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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All ears too... biggrin

infinity

638 posts

313 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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Would be very interested in a "how to"-guide too!!! (inlcuding part(numbers) needed etc....?)

phazed

22,457 posts

233 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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It's been a busy, (track) day!

The guy who should take credit for this is SPGSTEVE .

He hopefully will give a full description of what is needed.

In very basic turns, an early scooby rack is needed, the input shaft needs to be changed to an hexagonal shaft, (that's the tricky bit) and new track rods fitted.

The rack bolts unbelievably in the same position using the scooby brackets, a pair of spacers and longer bolts.

All this is run by a Vectra leccy pump and reservoir.

A bit of wiring and Bobs a goodun!

IMO, the scooby rack feels the same as a TVR specific PS rack so all good there.

I've done about 4K and 4 TDs with mine this year and all good.

If anyone wants to see mine, (the set up) they're more then welcome.

Mr Supercharged

499 posts

186 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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It would be great to see a right up on the scooby rack. Although I think that the advantage with the electric power steering is that you have adjustment on the assist level and no requirements for power steering fluid, reservoir bottle and plumbing etc.... I think that engineer1949 writeup on his rebuild included the fitting of the Corsa B or Corsa C steering column but I think that mated to the standard non power steering TVR rack. I would like to know what other racks fit that are non power steering. Anyone know?

Bassfiend229hp

5,530 posts

279 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Mr Supercharged said:
It would be great to see a right up on the scooby rack. Although I think that the advantage with the electric power steering is that you have adjustment on the assist level and no requirements for power steering fluid, reservoir bottle and plumbing etc.... I think that engineer1949 writeup on his rebuild included the fitting of the Corsa B or Corsa C steering column but I think that mated to the standard non power steering TVR rack. I would like to know what other racks fit that are non power steering. Anyone know?
Wasn't the issue with the Corsa setup that it operates directly on the steering column so has the "disadvantage" that it uses the standard TVR manual rack (which is difficult to get spares for in the event that it fails mechanically) plus that as it works on the steering column then it puts a hell of a lot of stress into an area that structurally isn't up to handling it without quite a bit of bracing?

The Vectra pump / Scooby rack is a more "normal" arrangement which uses a self contained electric fluid pump and reservoir but as the rack is from a Scooby then it's going to be possible to find replacements for a while. biggrin

phazed

22,457 posts

233 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Bassfiend229hp said:
Wasn't the issue with the Corsa setup that it operates directly on the steering column so has the "disadvantage" that it uses the standard TVR manual rack (which is difficult to get spares for in the event that it fails mechanically) plus that as it works on the steering column then it puts a hell of a lot of stress into an area that structurally isn't up to handling it without quite a bit of bracing?

The Vectra pump / Scooby rack is a more "normal" arrangement which uses a self contained electric fluid pump and reservoir but as the rack is from a Scooby then it's going to be possible to find replacements for a while. biggrin
All the above.

rigga

8,805 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Known issue with the vauxhall electric pas, it has a nasty habit of locking up on you, lots of postings on the web about it on corsa's, and having experienced the problem personally on the wife's old meriva I wouldn't touch one or have it near my car, vauxhall themselves changed the system as later meriva's for certain have non electric pas.
Some have fitted the early system to their cars and are happy, good for them and I hope they suffer no problems.

chris1972

3,597 posts

166 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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I'll take you up on that offer some time Peter! Would this also help gain a little HP too? The electric pump must take less effort to run than the LR belt driven pump?

Bassfiend229hp

5,530 posts

279 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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rigga said:
Known issue with the vauxhall electric pas, it has a nasty habit of locking up on you, lots of postings on the web about it on corsa's, and having experienced the problem personally on the wife's old meriva I wouldn't touch one or have it near my car, vauxhall themselves changed the system as later meriva's for certain have non electric pas.
Some have fitted the early system to their cars and are happy, good for them and I hope they suffer no problems.
This is the steering column based system yes, not the electric pump system?

rigga

8,805 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Bassfiend229hp said:
This is the steering column based system yes, not the electric pump system?
Yes motor on the column itself.

Chunky Dave

Original Poster:

48 posts

170 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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This is the system Im looking at, has anybody else have experience with it? I have a mate with a 4.6 V8 TR7 with it fitted on and he swears by it.
rigga said:
Bassfiend229hp said:
This is the steering column based system yes, not the electric pump system?
Yes motor on the column itself.

Bassfiend229hp

5,530 posts

279 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Chunky Dave said:
This is the system Im looking at, has anybody else have experience with it? I have a mate with a 4.6 V8 TR7 with it fitted on and he swears by it.
Gotta say Chunkyfella that given the two alternatives I'd probably rather go with the the electric pump and Scooby rack arrangement just because I can see less opportunity for catastrophic failure. biggrin

SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

260 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Here you go ,engineer 1949 electric steering ..clever bloke he is !

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...



Edited by SILICONEKID343HP on Tuesday 2nd July 21:37