RE: Toyota MR2: PH Carpool

RE: Toyota MR2: PH Carpool

Monday 8th July 2013

Toyota MR2: PH Carpool

A young PHer starts his journey into fast(ish) cars with the evergreen mid-engined Toyota



Name: James Lewis-Barned
Car: 1997 Toyota MR2 GT T-bar (Mk2 or 'SW20 rev 4' if we're being anal)
Owned since: February 2013
Previously owned: Volvo S60 T5

MX-5s 'too rusty' and 'too obvious' for our man
MX-5s 'too rusty' and 'too obvious' for our man
Why I bought it:
"As an impoverished youngster I wanted something fun to drive, cheap to buy and cheap to run. MX-5s were too obvious and, more pressingly, too rusty at the amount I wanted to spend. The MR2 felt special to drive and looked the part too."

What I wish I'd known:
"I wished I'd realised that the Toyota wheels mine came on weren't made for the MR2. Without the staggered setup MR2s should sit on I immediately had to treat PEL to some new rims that wouldn't cause the rear tyres to bulge, courtesy of eBay. The radiator on mine was completely shot, and I wasted no time getting this changed too, although this is a known issue with MR2s. I may install some kind of mesh in front of the rad to stop it ingesting more stones and the same happening again!"

New radiator among the initial spannering
New radiator among the initial spannering
Things I love:
"Before I even started the engine for the first time it was driving position that struck me - without an engine up front you sit low in the chassis while maintaining excellent forward visibility, and the seat bolsters can be adjusted on the backrest to stop those who aren't 'powerfully built' falling out of the leather seats. Having the engine right behind your left ear wills you on to rev it out and goes a long way towards reconciling the lack of grunt. Oh and the pop-up headlights - it's been known for me to let people out of junctions as an excuse to use them!"

Things I hate:
"While the noise is fun when you want it, it's wearisome when you don't, especially when sitting at 4,000rpm on a motorway slog. Coming from something with quite a bit more poke, especially in the mid-range, meant it felt lacklustre at first, so much so that I took it on a dyno at Surrey Rolling Road to see if it was down on power. Making a healthy 155hp (and with a pretty graph to prove it) I think it was more a case of expectation and what I was used to, although it requires a different approach to overtaking than the T5."

James has put the miles in on road and track
James has put the miles in on road and track
Costs:
"I've been fastidious about keeping a log of expenses (too fastidious perhaps looking back!) and other than the aforementioned set of wheels I've spent £180 for a radiator (fitted), £50 for a new handbrake cable (fitted) and £50 for a new drop link (fitted). I also changed the head unit as the original one refused to play CDs (£45 secondhand) and got the geometry sorted at Wheels-in-Motion (£72). Luke at Pacific Works (near Luton) has been my go to man for most of these jobs - he only works on MR2s and really knows his stuff, while suiting my 'impoverished youngster' budget."

Where I've been:
"Part of my logic for buying this car was it would be more 'trackable' than the Volvo (not that that actually stopped me before!) and less ruinous if I binned it. With this in mind I've taken it on days at Brands Hatch and Cadwell Park, while more recently a fellow PHer and I took it on a road trip to Oulton Park for a spot of drifting, followed by a day playing in the Brecon Beacons. If all goes to plan, next month should see a trip to the continent involving a few laps of the 'ring."

Quite a change from a Volvo S60...
Quite a change from a Volvo S60...
What next?
"I'm torn between keeping it as a road car, stripping it out and keeping it as a track car or replacing it with an E36 328i touring."

 

 

 

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Author
Discussion

jkhamler

Original Poster:

21 posts

162 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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I still think these look great. I had one for a couple of years about 10 years ago and I loved it!

Dion20vt

252 posts

162 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Good car! Ive recently purchased a MR2 turbo as a track day car which i plan to turn back into a road car. Even that feels slow mid range compared to my Volvo T5, but as soon as you go around a corner, it all makes sense!

Chunkymonkey71

13,015 posts

198 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Always wanted one of these!

LukeSi

5,753 posts

161 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Nicely written.

corradoboy1983

100 posts

232 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Amazing cars! I had a GT Turbo Rev 3, and sorely regret getting rid of it. I only did so because I was working away for months at a time, and it was starting to look a little sorry for itself just sat in a car park for long periods. It still started second turn after 4 months away, tyres hadn't lost pressure, and it drove like a new car even at 13 years old!
I got peanuts for it as a trade-in, and moved to an Impreza that was expensive to buy, and really just a fuel-guzzling beast with much less feel or fun than the MR2. Top car mate, and makes me feel very nostalgic!

airbrakes

10,389 posts

160 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Having been in it, I do agree with the statement that the seats are very supportive and comfy! And it sounds pretty good for a 4 cylinder as well, almost a wail at the top end! biggrin

Enjoy your time at the ring in it!

Marlowe

22 posts

155 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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A nice clean example. I own a rev 2 turbo as a weekend car and fall in love with it every time I drive it. The worst thing about these cars for me is the usual Japanese modding scene, the members of whom seem intend on making some very nice classic lines a chavvy abhorrence. If you can get past this turboes can be a performance bargain - especially if you run as a second car and make use of Classic car insurance.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Your first mid-engine car but no mention of the way it changes direction!

KMB

254 posts

223 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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My 96 Rev 3 MR2 Turbo was one of the best, and most fun, cars I've owned.

Try finding a good one now though frown

slicknic

57 posts

130 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Well written James. Makes me wish I'd taken a ride in it when we were in Essex a few weeks ago....

mrpushrod

68 posts

138 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Great write up and pictures, I can imagine it being a blast! Two weeks running now that Carpool has featured some 90s Japanese metal. Hard to beat for cheap reliable fun :-)

Alfa159Ti

827 posts

157 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Great car and great write up! I had four of these over the years - two NAs and two turbos and they remain some of my favourite cars. Still have an MR2 shaped hole in my life that I may need to fill again.

Totally agree about the driving position, just fantastic and makes the car feel really special. For me every journey in my MR2s felt like an adventure somehow.

Also like you I became the most courtious driver on the roads just for the love of popping the headlghts!

Do know what you mean about the lazy power delivery though. At the time mine felt quick, but another drive in an NA a few years later having been driving more modern cars highlighted how thin on torque they are.

The MK2 MR2 may not have been raved about in the motoring press, but in my experience they just seem to possess a certain magic that I have rarely found in other cars. With a nice set of 17" or 18" wheels and suspension upgrade they still look fantastic to my eye, whilst being great fun to drive and very reliable.

Turbo models meanwhile remain arguably THE MOST bang for your buck of any car on the used market today. With a few mods their straight line pace is supercar baiting up to 100mph. My silver turbo scalped a Chimaera, CLK AMG, an E46 M3 and a number of Porsches during our time together, much to their respective drivers horror!

205alive

6,087 posts

176 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Just out of interest, would there be any adverse effects if the spoiler was removed; I think they look cleaner without one?

Edited by 205alive on Monday 8th July 11:08

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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I had mine for 7 years. 5 years after I sold it I still miss it.


M@1975

591 posts

227 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Oddly never owned one, had a huge assortment of Jap cars over the years but for some reason the Mrs took a peculiar hatred of the MR2 to the extreme and banned me from ever getting one. this from a woman who didn't bat an eyelid when I unexpectedly came home with all sorts of cars on a whim.

TL1000R

118 posts

170 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Love MR2's and miss my turbo massively. So much car for the money and very easy to extract even more performance from. I must give another shout out to Luke at Pacific Works. If you have a MR2 and live anywhere near Luton he really is the go to guy.

vrooom

3,763 posts

267 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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I got a MR2 in pieces at the moment, and i liked the way the car steered. I am thinking of dropping in a 3 litre V6 in my mr2.

Daniel1

2,931 posts

198 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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I love these. Something i must tick off the list at some point.

FIREBIRDC9

736 posts

137 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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That is rather scary!

I am also a young person that purchased an MR2 GT T-Bar (also a rev4) in March!

The only difference I can see is that mine is green!

I also love to let people out of junctions via the Flip up's!
The Smile you get from some people is priceless!

The one thing that I get with my car that suprises me.

Because my Car is Goodwood Green (its a lesser seen colour on the MK'2s) people look at me with an expression that says "How the hell did he afford that at that age" even though I paid less than what most people pay for a 1.6 hatchback these days XD

All in all , MR2 is a fantastic car that is still nippy despite it being 16 years old (1997)
And it sounds fantastic!

My only beef is that on my 137 mile drive to japfest 2 yesterday , The glass roof and lack of Aircon was not fun!
Oh , and no cupholders!

jturn

15 posts

130 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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No "anal" about it mate, the differences between "Revs" are important. Having owned a 5 NA and now a 4 Turbo, I would argue that the 4 was the peak of the SW20 both aesthetically and technically - before they added the Rev5 adjustable spoiler!

What wheels did you have on initially? The ones in the pictures look like the standard Rev3/4 articles.

I managed a couple of years before my thirst for more power needed quenching and I upgraded to a turbo so see how you go!