Do I have to fit 4 winter tyres?

Do I have to fit 4 winter tyres?

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j3gme

Original Poster:

885 posts

194 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Can I get away with just fitting a pair of winter tyres on the driving wheels or is that just foolish and should go for all 4? (Just thinking of cost)

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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What is more important to you

1 Going
2 stopping
3 turning

If 1 is far more important then 2 or 3 then go for it

Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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You'll really unbalance the car - it'll be entertaining!

Find an empty car park, get some McDonalds trays and stick them under the non-driving wheels. See how you get on. biggrin

joewilliams

2,004 posts

201 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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If you're the only person in the car, just fit them to the drivers side.

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Yep, all 4 required.

We just went for middle of the road Hankooks and they were fine.

Gruber

6,313 posts

214 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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joewilliams said:
If you're the only person in the car, just fit them to the drivers side.
clap

rofl

clunkbox

237 posts

140 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Yes you can but it isn't a good idea. One FWD car you are asking for oversteer, possibly a spin if you aren't careful slowing down. In a RWD it's going to be comical understeer time.

Either way you are increasing your ability to get power down, but possibly ending up with the same or worse control trying to stop! You will need to drive it under the idea that you only have the grip levels provided by your worst tires.

I wouldn't recommend it.


steveo3002

10,525 posts

174 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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i asked the same about fwd last year or so

i was told i wold crash and die , but went ahead and fitted fronts only , it was fine driving around normaly , i tried some hard braking and what not in the snow and nothing bad at all happened

im sure if you try screaming around at the cars limit then it wont be best , but normal driving they seemed fine for me

Jandywa

1,060 posts

151 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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I only fitted winters to the fronts of my old FWD yaris. The rears had plenty of tread on them but were not winters or all seasons, Toyo t1-r i think they were.

I was not killed, nor did i crash into anything/anyone and did not spin. When we had heavy snows I went out and tried to get it stuck, to no avail. it just kept on plodding.

I would advise putting them on all fours as that's what people with greater knowledge on the subject than me suggest, however if you choose just the fronts chances are if you don't drive like a tool you will be absolutely fine.

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

178 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Jandywa said:
chances are if you don't drive like a tool (and nobody around you does either) will be absolutely fine.
EFA

beanbag

7,346 posts

241 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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steveo3002 said:
i asked the same about fwd last year or so

i was told i wold crash and die , but went ahead and fitted fronts only , it was fine driving around normaly , i tried some hard braking and what not in the snow and nothing bad at all happened

im sure if you try screaming around at the cars limit then it wont be best , but normal driving they seemed fine for me
Surely it would be like fitting trolley wheels to the back of the car?!! Even though the front is doing most of the work, you still need rear grip to handle the car correctly and keep it properly balanced. I really can't see how that's safe!

It's amazing how much people choose to save whilst compromising safety. How much is a pair these days? £150?

BorkFactor

7,265 posts

158 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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I used to have good Vredstiens on the front of my old Astra and cheap budget ones on the rear (car came with them) back when I was 17.

Did lots of driving over the winter of 2009 which was one of the worst that the Highlands had ever seen.

It was absolutely fine. No problems at all, lots of snow and ice driving, and nothing. Didn't get stuck, didn't experience any oversteer or understeer if you were sensible.


steveo3002

10,525 posts

174 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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same rear tyres as all the non winter tyre drivers are using

im sure at high speed testing 4 winter tyres would corner at higher speeds than a mix , but i really couldnt provoke any strangeness at all

they did impress me though ,can pretty much accelerate and brake pretty hard without fuss

Coldfuse

518 posts

194 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Bluebarge said:
Jandywa said:
chances are if you don't drive like a tool (and nobody around you does either) will be absolutely fine.
EFA
Thats not something that having either two or four winter tires would remedy..

beanbag said:
steveo3002 said:
i asked the same about fwd last year or so

i was told i wold crash and die , but went ahead and fitted fronts only , it was fine driving around normaly , i tried some hard braking and what not in the snow and nothing bad at all happened

im sure if you try screaming around at the cars limit then it wont be best , but normal driving they seemed fine for me
Surely it would be like fitting trolley wheels to the back of the car?!! Even though the front is doing most of the work, you still need rear grip to handle the car correctly and keep it properly balanced. I really can't see how that's safe!

It's amazing how much people choose to save whilst compromising safety. How much is a pair these days? £150?
This amazes me as well, i mean yeah you can probably get away with fitting two instead of four winter tires, but why would you? how much do you value your life? the lives of your friends or family who happen to be sitting in the car with you as you drive down a country road in a blizzard...

Admittedly I'm in the north of Scotland so I live in an area that is a little more susceptible to snow fall.

NRS

22,169 posts

201 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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beanbag said:
Surely it would be like fitting trolley wheels to the back of the car?!! Even though the front is doing most of the work, you still need rear grip to handle the car correctly and keep it properly balanced. I really can't see how that's safe!

It's amazing how much people choose to save whilst compromising safety. How much is a pair these days? £150?
OP, if you look at it this way how much will it save you if you avoid a crash compared to the amount you spend on winter tyres? Depending where you are then it's probably worth the investment. The other thing to remember is that if the car is a keeper you save the wear on the summer tyres anyway, so you shouldn't be spending much more. The other option is selling them in winter when everyone panics and they're all sold out, so you make some of the money back if you sell the car. Generally they should be replaced after 5 years or so. The rubber becomes hard and so loses the grip then. If you have spiked tyres can be ok, but in the UK I don't think they're legal (plus would be pointless most of the time).

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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I know first hand of someone who fitted winters to the front and left the standard tyres on the rear (car in question was a 4x4 Skoda Yeti). Braked going round a corner (not a great plan anyway) and the rear end just slid off the road.


Still, each to their own - but I'd rather have 4 winter tyres.

beanbag

7,346 posts

241 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Podie said:
I know first hand of someone who fitted winters to the front and left the standard tyres on the rear (car in question was a 4x4 Skoda Yeti). Braked going round a corner (not a great plan anyway) and the rear end just slid off the road.


Still, each to their own - but I'd rather have 4 winter tyres.
Precisely that.

I used winter tyres in Austria for 6 years and they were life savers at times. I also had them fitted to my RWD BMW and I swear it saved my life once on the motorway. 50km/h in a blizzard and the back steps out. I narrowly missed the off-ramp divider only because I managed to pull the car back in and regain grip. Without winter tyres, I would have crashed 100%.

The scenario was quite extreme but they also work beautifully on wet, slippery roads.

With regards to changing them, just buy a set of cheap steel rims and keep them on that. I have a full set of Goodyear Ultragrip 7+ on 16" steel rims with BMW hub caps and they look fine.

Plus my car is covered in crap all the time in the winter so I couldn't care less how they look!!!


roadman

488 posts

138 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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A winter Tyre topic already!!!

jon-

16,509 posts

216 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Decide yourself based on a video test:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cBSWEhimdA&lis...

SMcP114

2,916 posts

192 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Coldfuse said:
how much do you value your life?
Nothing like a bit of drama to brighten up a Monday afternoon.