RE: MG ZT-T V8 260: Spotted

RE: MG ZT-T V8 260: Spotted

Thursday 8th August 2013

MG ZT-T V8 260: Spotted

It's one very rare Brit muscle car, and a piece of PH history too!



There's been a bit of an estate theme coursing through PH recently. Chris Harris has been hooning around in the latest German uberwagons, we've learnt the history of the 3 Series Touring and all of us remain rather fond of the Focus ST fleet estate.

Two valves per cylinder and 57hp per litre...
Two valves per cylinder and 57hp per litre...
Therefore, some kind of classifieds-based feature had to follow. But where to start? The Mini Clubman is a guilty pleasure so it was considered, as well as this interesting Octavia vRS, one of just two petrol models for sale. And the Legacy Spec B proffered a leftfield hot Subaru alternative also.

Plenty of choices then, but we've settled on a car familiar to PH: an MG ZT-T V8, the exact car that featured in Estates of Play in 2011. The Mustang-engined estate was always in contention, but to have such a unique car available meant we had to run with it.

Chris's (aka Kermit Power's) ZT-T V8 is reputedly the only car made in Biomorphic Green too, so it really is one of a kind. Furthermore, having been built for MG Rover Product Director Rob Oldacre, BX03TYY comes with nearly every option including xenon headlights, a stereo upgrade and heated leather/Alcantara seats.

Not-quite Biomorphic Green for the interior
Not-quite Biomorphic Green for the interior
However, of far more interest are the aftermarket tweaks added by Chris to further enhance the ZT-T's appeal (i.e. by enhancing that V8). A pair of stainless steel backboxes 'really make the car sound like it should', plus a K&N air filter should benefit those inside the car too. Moreover, some of the niggles (or charm as some may see it) associated with this wildest of MG Z-cars have been resolved. There's now a full-size spare wheel, the coolant hose has been replaced and fuel pump clip is new as well.

The entire advert, all 1,512 (!) words of it, could easily make a feature by itself, detailing the ups and downs of seven years' ownership with this enigmatic car. This ZT-T has been enjoyed but cherished, with high-quality parts used throughout Chris's ownership.

Some more subtlety available for £9K
Some more subtlety available for £9K
It's easy to forget that, given the constraints facing MG a decade ago, the ZT-T V8 was actually a remarkably decent car. Sure, that ol' lump of iron out front was lazy and it was never going to be an advanced driving experience, but it could tackle corner with a fair degree of composure whilst sounding ace. Indeed, our old friend Riggers described it as 'a brilliant car' that 'even handles moderately adroitly' when he drove this very one in 2011.

The mandatory stuff like the MOT (June 2014) and tax (October) are in place for the next owner, and it's nearly half the price of this low-mileage ZT-T. Finally, after struggling to justify an eccentric V8 yesterday, there's now a reason to own and enjoy a V8; the Lib Dems want combustion engines banned. So go wild, supercharge the thing, and enjoy a fantastic V8 estate whilst it's still possible.


MG ZT-T V8 260
Engine:
4,601cc V8
Transmission: Five-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 260@5,000rpm
Torque (lb ft):3034,000rpm
MPG: 21
CO2: 314g/km
First registered: 2003
Recorded mileage: 81,000
Price new: £28,995
Yours for: £6,995

See the original advert here

 

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GranCab

Original Poster:

2,902 posts

146 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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I saw a metallic royal blue one in Sainsbury's car park last week (Castle Marina Nottingham) - it looked superb ....

bob1179

14,107 posts

209 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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A ten from me!

I still want one of these, an awesome car.

smile

VeeDub Geezer

461 posts

154 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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Yes please!!

aarondbs

845 posts

146 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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I too have an affection for these. Not driven one, but all road tests I have read have said it was a good steer. The engine always seemed to me to be down on power but I am guessing (I am guessing) this could easily be rectified perhaps even without supercharging...

Do we think this is a future classic, one to keep in excellent nick for a few years before prices bottom out and start to rise again? I suppose the question that begs also is if they will reduce much further..?

arkenphel

484 posts

205 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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I had a spirited thrap with one years ago in my 330ci. It literally crawled away on the straights, but did not take corners too well.

Sounded nice though!

TEKNOPUG

18,948 posts

205 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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In desperate need of a super-charger.

Morningside

24,110 posts

229 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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Shame that the Chinese MG does not have another bash at this but giving it to a tuning company for a bit more oomph.

rb5er

11,657 posts

172 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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I do like it a lot but it just seems so odd/wrong spending that sort of money on an MG these days. Interesting colour too.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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That's a rather optimistic torque figure quoted biggrin


Lovely cars these, I drove an early purple pre facelift saloon one when they first came out. Superb handling for something so heavy, it really did feel like a dirty great go-kart.

Not as speedy as you'd hope though, sadly the 2v SOHC 4.6 is not Fords finest moment. Wheezy, doesn't rev, not very tunable, physically huge (almost as big as a 60's big block!) and a massively heavy.

J4CKO

41,530 posts

200 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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I think prices for these have bottomed and are now going the other way.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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rb5er said:
I do like it a lot but it just seems so odd/wrong spending that sort of money on an MG these days. Interesting colour too.
Check out MG RV8 prices then wink

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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arkenphel said:
I had a spirited thrap with one years ago in my 330ci. It literally crawled away on the straights, but did not take corners too well.

Sounded nice though!
A 330ci weighs less and has either 231 or 256hp depending on year? So would sound about right the MG only being slightly quicker on the straights, probably due to making a lot more torque (so more power under the curve, despite similar PEAK power figures).

In the corners, that sounds more like it was driver than car. They handle, or should handle very well.

robinessex

11,057 posts

181 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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I seem to remember that a few of these left in dealers showrooms when the company went bust were being flogged of at half price. Personally, I prefer the earlier ones with the twin headlamps. Didn't go much on the face lift version.

PoleDriver

28,637 posts

194 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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J4CKO said:
I think prices for these have bottomed and are now going the other way.
roflroflroflroflroflrofl

SlowStig

839 posts

171 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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I use mine as a daily, number 881 out of 883 produced. The suspenstion was setup by Prodrive and consists of Bilstein shocks and springs all round with a shock on the diff to prevent axle tramp.

They are not the fastest thing but they are an event to drive, never will see another one on the same road day-to-day just because of the rarity and they are slowly being noticed as a collectable and are going up in value. Slowly.

Here is mine, I love it cloud9



Bash Brannigan

211 posts

187 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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260 bhp from 4.6 litres? That's an impressively crap specific output.

I don't get this car. To me it's a 10 year old gas guzzling, nippy (as opposed to fast) estate that looks like a rover 75 with a bad body kit.

sxturbo

19 posts

161 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
That's a rather optimistic torque figure quoted biggrin


Lovely cars these, I drove an early purple pre facelift saloon one when they first came out. Superb handling for something so heavy, it really did feel like a dirty great go-kart.

Not as speedy as you'd hope though, sadly the 2v SOHC 4.6 is not Fords finest moment. Wheezy, doesn't rev, not very tunable, physically huge (almost as big as a 60's big block!) and a massively heavy.
JUST DONE A BIT OF RESEARCH ON THE 4.6 2 VALVER, AND THEY ARE PRETTY TUNEABLE FROM THE US http://www.onallcylinders.com/2012/11/09/two-valve...

OVER 100BHP JUST FROM CHANGING THE HEADS :P

edit: sorry for caps, am at work, and there was more than heads but the idea is there

Edited by sxturbo on Thursday 8th August 15:51

Nick Young

250 posts

250 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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Took mine on a track day, mixed it up with Imprezas and Evo's of the time at Castle Combe. I would be quicker on the straights but they left me for dead particularly coming out of corners (to be expected really). Brakes lasted about 3 laps before the inevitable fade, and I'm a light braker.

Also used to go through a set of rears in about 6000 miles on normal commuting, plus 5000(I think?) mile service intervals meant it wasn't a cheap car to run!

Fantastic car though, I was talking about these just last night about how it was in my top three favourite cars I've ever had... I had mine for about 2 years and it was awesome. I misguidedly replaced it with a VW EOS Diesel, which conversely is in the bottom one of all my cars ever!

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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Bash Brannigan said:
260 bhp from 4.6 litres? That's an impressively crap specific output.

I don't get this car. To me it's a 10 year old gas guzzling, nippy (as opposed to fast) estate that looks like a rover 75 with a bad body kit.
The 4.6 was the base Ford V8 engine. It was used in trucks, sedans, vans and other cars. All unchanged in spec. It was never designed with the maximum output in mind. It does however form part of the Ford modular V8 range which consists of DOHC variants making 305-320hp from 4.6 litre. Aluminim block version. Even supercharged variants. 5.4 litre options. A 5.0 "cammer" race engine. They even made a V10 variant for use in their F350 pick up trucks.

kambites

67,554 posts

221 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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So would the more powerful DHOC version just bolt into the MG's engine bay?