Couldn't get away with it now

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tbc

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3,017 posts

177 months

Saturday 24th August 2013
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Watching Only Fools and Horses repeat on GOLD and noticed how many laugh out loud lines in the 80's if said now would be on the daily mail as 'racist' and homophobic

maybe casual racism was more acceptable in the 80's

they refer to the shop as " shop"

call people 'nufters' and 'banditos'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7TupvZ0TrM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PTSMFXEBLU


and who can forget the John Cleese racism in Fawlty Towers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns0uRr6aPQE


hopefully the PH PC brigade have taken the weekend off


chibbard

1,554 posts

262 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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You need to have experienced Love thy neighbour. That was hilarious!!!!

Eric Mc

122,259 posts

267 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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Or "Mind Your Language".

Piersman2

6,609 posts

201 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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Eric Mc said:
Or "Mind Your Language".
I remember this being laugh out loud funny when I was a kid. I'd probably cringe through it now. smile

voyds9

8,489 posts

285 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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Blazing Saddles

Airplane

Till death do us part

Eric Mc

122,259 posts

267 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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voyds9 said:
Blazing Saddles

Airplane

Till death do us part
"Blazing Saddles" and 'Til Death us Do Part" were NOT in the same mould as the simplistic racist humour of "Mind Your Language". They were actually designed to make racists look like idiots and, in their own way, were instrumental in changing most of our atitudes to racism.

"Love Thy Neighbour" actually was more subtle too than most people realise. If any of you are old enough to recall, the white neighbour was the dumb one with the plain ordinary looking wife whilst the black neighbours next door were good looking, intelligent and sophisticated.
People tend to castigate "Love Thy Neighbour" without really remembering what it was actually like.

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

151 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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voyds9 said:
Blazing Saddles

Airplane

Till death do us part
Although the point of Alf Garnett was to hold a mirror to casual racism. Warren Mitchell used to tell how he would get stopped by people who would say I love what you're saying about them coons Alf & he'd tell them the point was he was taking the piss out of people like them.

dave stew

1,502 posts

169 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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There's a line in a 70s sitcom where they are in a guesthouse:
"There's a Goblin Teasmaid in every room."
"They think of everything here!"

NDA

21,719 posts

227 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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I used to like the 'Women Know Your Place' stuff that Harry Enfield used to do.

Butter Face

30,522 posts

162 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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It annoys me that people get upset about something that was said on a TV show many many years ago. So it was acceptable then but it isn't now, the wrong had been righted, crying over it won't make it any better.

chris watton

22,477 posts

262 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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Eric Mc said:
voyds9 said:
Blazing Saddles

Airplane

Till death do us part
"Blazing Saddles" and 'Til Death us Do Part" were NOT in the same mould as the simplistic racist humour of "Mind Your Language". They were actually designed to make racists look like idiots and, in their own way, were instrumental in changing most of our atitudes to racism.

"Love Thy Neighbour" actually was more subtle too than most people realise. If any of you are old enough to recall, the white neighbour was the dumb one with the plain ordinary looking wife whilst the black neighbours next door were good looking, intelligent and sophisticated.
People tend to castigate "Love Thy Neighbour" without really remembering what it was actually like.
I agree with this - same with Rising Damp (arguably one of the best sit coms of the '70's) - Rigsby was the thick one (played superbly by Leonard Rossiter)and the Don Warrington character Phillip was the most intelligent of the group.

They were all about making fun of the bigots and racists - something that most nowadays don't seem to see from these shows. I guess they like to think that they're more 'progressive' whatever that means, these days, and everything in the '70's and '80's was crass and racist, when the truth is somewhat different.

Edited by chris watton on Monday 26th August 12:46

Hooli

32,278 posts

202 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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NDA said:
I used to like the 'Women Know Your Place' stuff that Harry Enfield used to do.
yes Those were brilliant

Halb

53,012 posts

185 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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tbc said:
maybe casual racism was more acceptable in the 80's

they refer to the shop as " shop"
wasn't always a racist term.

Hackney

6,871 posts

210 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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tbc said:
Watching Only Fools and Horses repeat on GOLD and noticed how many laugh out loud lines in the 80's if said now would be on the daily mail as 'racist' and homophobic

maybe casual racism was more acceptable in the 80's

they refer to the shop as " shop"

call people 'nufters' and 'banditos'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7TupvZ0TrM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PTSMFXEBLU


and who can forget the John Cleese racism in Fawlty Towers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns0uRr6aPQE


hopefully the PH PC brigade have taken the weekend off
All three of those clips allow you to laugh at the racist, that's the point.
And what's all the added text in the first clip? Can someone add a whooshparrot to that please?

irocfan

40,786 posts

192 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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Hackney said:
tbc said:
Watching Only Fools and Horses repeat on GOLD and noticed how many laugh out loud lines in the 80's if said now would be on the daily mail as 'racist' and homophobic

maybe casual racism was more acceptable in the 80's

they refer to the shop as " shop"

call people 'nufters' and 'banditos'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7TupvZ0TrM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PTSMFXEBLU


and who can forget the John Cleese racism in Fawlty Towers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns0uRr6aPQE


hopefully the PH PC brigade have taken the weekend off
All three of those clips allow you to laugh at the racist, that's the point.
And what's all the added text in the first clip? Can someone add a whooshparrot to that please?
oh DO be quiet please, don't you realise you're in danger of doing some hand-wringing liberal out of their outrage! Yes there were problems in the 70s and some horrible things were said but I rather suspect that to try and tell 'those types' that the ones we all laughed at in the 3 examples about were the white males (interestingly enough even though there was rampant sexism in those days women, at least in those programes, were rarely the butt of the joke)

Eric Mc

122,259 posts

267 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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I would say one of the worst offending comedy series of that era and one which hardly ever gets mentioned when commenting on bad and offensive comedy is "On the Buses". I challenge anyone to watch that today without cringing.

Morningside

24,111 posts

231 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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Eric Mc said:
I would say one of the worst offending comedy series of that era and one which hardly ever gets mentioned when commenting on bad and offensive comedy is "On the Buses". I challenge anyone to watch that today without cringing.
I found it far more sexist than anything else.

Eric Mc

122,259 posts

267 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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Absolutely. That's why I didn't use the word "racist". I said "bad and offensive".

Catweazle

1,214 posts

144 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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tbc

Original Poster:

3,017 posts

177 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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wan't it on the Robertsons jam jar less than 5 years ago


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NnvUjozzQM