How does this scam work?

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CAPP0

Original Poster:

19,613 posts

204 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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My CV has been on a few job sites for a little while, and this morning I received the following email (it's not the first time I've received something similar). Clearly a scam, (and not least because it offers me a role for which I have zero skills or experience!), but I'm just wondering how it works for them. Do they ask you to pay something before you can "join the company" or something?

Email said:
Email title: (My Name) Fri. Sep.6, 2013, 8:05 AM


Good morning (My Name),

An international dynamic art company established in the UK reviewed your resume posted at www.jobsite.co.uk and is pleased to offer you a part-time position as Financial Services Officer.

This letter confirms our employment offer to you as a part time FSO.

This offer is subjected to the following:
Work schedule:
- Mon - Fri, from 9 AM - 11 AM.

Job Requirements:
- High School graduate or equivalent
- Computer skills including internet, e-mail, word processing
- A stable work history
- You must be a self-starter and able to complete tasks with minimal supervision
- All applicants will be required to complete a background check
- Free training provided, so experience is not required
- NOT A SALES OR MLM MARKETING POSITION

Your salary shall be 1,500 GBP per month and is subjected to taxes deductions and other withholding deductions as required by law.
In accepting our employment offer and until you sign the formal job contract, you certify that your employment has not entered into a contractual status.

Contact us at scott.hr.office@gmail.com. I'm sorry, due to spam problem we have to use a g-mail address, company e-mail address will be revealed to you after your reply.

Sincerely,

Hiring Coordinator
Scott Pierce

NDA

21,640 posts

226 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Set up a disposable email address.

Reply (removing your previous email address).

Ask for the company name.

Report back.


smile

DavesFlaps

679 posts

192 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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As it's Friday, I've decided to pursue this.

From: herbert.gaycock@outlook.com
To: scott.hr.office@gmail.com
Subject: re: Herbert Gaycock
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:18:49 +0100


Good Morning Scott,

I am interested in your offer having been out of work for the last 6 months.

When can I start?

Regards

Herbert

NDA

21,640 posts

226 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Good work Herb.

Hahahahahaahaa!

Terminator X

15,129 posts

205 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Perhaps they'll ask you to pay for their training course needed for the role, upfront obviously wink

TX.

CAPP0

Original Poster:

19,613 posts

204 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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I await with interest!

It could of course be the job of my dreams!

marshalla

15,902 posts

202 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Money laundering.

You set up a bank account.
They pay into it (credit card fraud profits, drug money, car sales scams etc.)
You send money to them using Western Union or some other system that makes tracing the recipient difficult.
When the authorities investigate, you get prosecuted too.
When the bank detects and reverses the fraudulent payments, you go into massive overdraft and have to deal with charges and fallout.

DavesFlaps

679 posts

192 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:21:13 +0100
> From: job@artalpine-ltd.com
> To: herbert.gaycock@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: Herbert Gaycock
>
> Hello,
>
> Here is more information about our Company and position we offer.
>
> First and foremost, ARTALPINE LIMITED is a company that's all about people...our employees, our customers, our sellers and our partners. We believe that having extraordinary people is the greatest possible asset and sustainable advantage for a company. We began with an idea, and publicly launched our website. It's been a wild ride since then... and we've only just begun.
>
> Our mission is simple: "To Enable Every Custom, On-Demand Product in the World On Our Platform." In other words, ARTALPINE LIMITED, is creating both the tools and the marketplace for ART. Simple concept, but very hard to do! The good news: we're getting closer to this reality every single day. And we're having a blast doing it.
>
> The position being offered is for Financial Support Agent.
>
> Job requirements:
> - Minimum 18 y.o.;
> - constant internet access;
> - home or mobile phone number;
> - regular bank account (current/savings) or a Verified Premier or Business PayPal account.
>
> Base salary 1,500 GBP is paid at the end of probationary period (once employed on the regular basis, base salary 1,800 GBP is paid on the last business day of the month) via wire transfer directly to your bank account. Your 8 commission will be deposited along with every transfer. We will let you know how much of the amount deposited is your commission and how much needs to be transferred, all fees are paid from money received, you won’t have to invest your own money.
>
> Employment benefits (upon completion of 30 days trial period):
> - Paid holidays;
> - Professional development programs;
>
> Refer to the links below for additional information.
>
> Vacancy description: http://www.artalpine-ltd.com/job/finance2?lang=uk
>
> Frequently Asked Question: http://www.artalpine-ltd.com/job/finance/faq
>
> Key points:
> - No investment of funds on your part;
> - Long-term or Short-term employment is available;
> - Not a sales position, base pay along with commission is guaranteed;
>
> SIGN ON BONUS! Please follow the link: http://www.artalpine-ltd.com/job/finance-bonus?lan...
>
> Our company registration number is: 06542946
>
> If you are ready to apply, let me know, so we can get you started with registration process.
>
> Sign up here: http://www.artalpine-ltd.com/registration/1
>
> For more information and inquiries you may contact us at job@artalpine-ltd.com
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Scott Pierce
> HR Coordinator
> ARTALPINE LIMITED
> Phone: +44 121 318 6776
> Fax: +44 872 352 7716
> e-mail: job@artalpine-ltd.com
>

bigandclever

13,810 posts

239 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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I'm amazed the company is 'real'...

Name & Registered Office:
ARTALPINE LIMITED
69 GREAT HAMPTON STREET
BIRMINGHAM
B18 6EW
Company No. 06542946

CAPP0

Original Poster:

19,613 posts

204 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Presumably Scott Pierce has just lifted the blurb in his reply straight from the website and Artalpine know nothing about this!

Haggleburyfinius

6,601 posts

187 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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bigandclever said:
I'm amazed the company is 'real'...

Name & Registered Office:
ARTALPINE LIMITED
69 GREAT HAMPTON STREET
BIRMINGHAM
B18 6EW
Company No. 06542946
I am sitting about 100 yards from there, on the same street right now!

Nothing but dodgy, dodgy peeps down this road!

I'll drive past 69 in half an hour; will let you know what/if anything is there smile

NDA

21,640 posts

226 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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A 'wild ride' with £3,800 cash at hand according to their accounts.

Hmmmm.

All rather odd.

Terminator X

15,129 posts

205 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Random sales job by the looks of it, is the OP any good at sales?!

TX.

NDA

21,640 posts

226 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Run by 'Marco Wolf' previously of Krone Club (dissolved).

I'm heading into a meeting, but the PH hounds might be able to dig up something.

bigandclever

13,810 posts

239 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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NDA said:
Run by 'Marco Wolf' previously of Krone Club (dissolved).

I'm heading into a meeting, but the PH hounds might be able to dig up something.
He was the founding director, now resigned. Current director is (another Austrian) Monika Kloeckl.

DavesFlaps

679 posts

192 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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sorry - having to delete the images, as there's something on a couple that i shouldn't have posted.

Edited by DavesFlaps on Friday 6th September 12:54

marshalla

15,902 posts

202 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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bigandclever said:
I'm amazed the company is 'real'...

Name & Registered Office:
ARTALPINE LIMITED
69 GREAT HAMPTON STREET
BIRMINGHAM
B18 6EW
Company No. 06542946
The companies referred to in this scam are always real - it's part of the social engineering. The websites and domains are never the real thing.

DavesFlaps

679 posts

192 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Nxxt step is this:

TRANSFER SERVICE, Term of the Agreement and Compensation

DUTIES:
The Contractor undertakes the responsibility to receive payments from the Clients of the Company to his personal bank account, withdraw cash and to process payments to the Company's partners by Western Union or MoneyGram money transfer system within one (1) day. He/she will report directly to the senior manager and to any other party designated by the senior manager in connection with the performance of the duties under this Agreement and shall fulfill any other duties reasonably requested by the Company and agreed to by the Contractor.

CONFIDENTIALITY:
The Contractor acknowledges that during the engagement he will have access to and become acquainted with various trade secrets, inventions, innovations, processes, information, records and specifications owned or licensed by the Company and/or used by the Company in connection with the operation of its business including, without limitation, the Company's business and product processes, methods, customer lists, accounts and procedures.

The Contractor agrees that he will not disclose any of the aforesaid, directly or indirectly, or use any of them in any manner, either during the term of this Agreement or at any time thereafter. All files, records, documents, blueprints, specifications, information, letters, notes, media lists, original artwork/creative, notebooks, and similar items relating to the business of the Company, whether prepared by the Contractor or otherwise coming into his possession, shall remain the exclusive property of the Company.

The Contractor shall not retain any copies of the foregoing
without the Company's prior written permission. The Contractor further agrees that he will not disclose his retention as an independent contractor or the terms of this Agreement to any person without the prior written consent of the Company and shall at all times preserve the confidential nature of his relationship to the Company and of the services hereunder.

If the Contractor releases any of the above information to any parties outside of this company, such as personal friend, close relatives or other Financial Institutions such as a Bank or other Financial Firms, such could be considered grounds for immediate termination. If the Contractor is ever in doubt of what information can be released and when, the Contractor will contact their superior right away.

TERMS OF ENGAGEMENT:
The Contractor is engaged by the Company on terms of thirty-days (30) probationary period. During the probationary period the Company undertakes to pay to the Contractor the base salary amounting to GBP 1,500 per month plus 8% commission from each payment processing operation. After the probationary period the Company agrees to revise and raise the base salary to GBP 1,800. The Company has the right to cancel this Agreement at any time within the probationary period or refuse to extend it after that, should the Contractor refuse to fulfill his/her obligations under this Agreement or fulfills them not in good faith.

The Contractor has the right to terminate the Agreement at any time on condition that he/she has processed all previous payments and has no new instructions.

COMPENSATION:
The Company undertakes to pay taxes accrued in connection with money transfer.

The Company shall also reimburse part of expenses which are incurred in connection with money transfer by Western Union or MoneyGram systems (should money transfer charges exceed 3%, i.e. commission for payment processing operation).
The above difference will be automatically added to the base salary of the Contractor and paid once per month together with the base salary.

The Company shall have the right to decrease the Contractor's commission in case the payment processing terms were violated by the Contractor. Should the Contractor delays re-sending money accepted to his bank account for the period exceeding one (1) day without any explicit reason, the Company shall have the right to impose sanctions on the Contractor if only the delay has not been caused by the Force Majeur circumstances and to apply to the arbitration and claim for the reimburse of the amount transferred to his account or for compensation for other damage if any, evicted due to the delay.

The Contractor may take days off at any time and at his/her option upon giving five (5) working days advance notice in writing or three (3) working days advance notice via e-mail or fax to the Company in order that the latter may abstain from charging the Contractor with new instructions. However, salary for each day-off is deducted from the Contractor's base salary.

DavesFlaps

679 posts

192 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Edited by DavesFlaps on Friday 6th September 12:55

DavesFlaps

679 posts

192 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Edited by DavesFlaps on Friday 6th September 12:55