The Keating Bolt - are you having a f*****g laugh?

[airbrakes]

Just spotted this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-243...

Article said:

Will this be the world's fastest car? Inventor claims it has a top speed 340 mph...but it will set you back £750,000

• The Keating Bolt will go from 0-60 mph in just two seconds using an 800bhp engine
• Has been designed by Dr Anthony Keating, from Manchester firm
• A prototype of the supercar will attempt to break the world speed record for production cars in the United Arab Emirates later this year
• Inventors hope the car will go on sale early net year
• It will cost £750,000

Yeah like fk it will. A car with 400bhp less than the SS Veyron, and I suspect a lot mess money invested in its aerodynamics, is going to go 70mph faster? When, due to the square factor relationship bewtween speed and air resistance, there will be 1.5 times as much resistance to contend with?
Honestly, what the hell gave them the idea to go public with such bullst? Anyone with half a brain will instantly realise there's more chance of plaiting fog.

Then we get to the kicker.... unlike some more recent cotage industry makers like Noble, this is a proper man-in-a-shed operation with proper man-in-a-shed quality control too:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/new-cars/harsh-real...

Autocar said:

Underneath, there's a fairly basic and agricultural-looking tubular chassis. On top of that sits poorly fitting composite bodywork, replete with orange-peeled paintwork, shoddy weather sealing and amateurish detailing that reminds me more of Halfords than Hennesey.

Inside you'll find a cramped, low-rent interior with the obligatory pair of re-trimmed leather bucket seats, a tacky steering wheel and limited instrumentation. The high point? Probably the Alpine head unit. The low point? The bolt-shaped door handles. Not ergonomic, certainly not stylish. The interior mirror had fallen off as well, although it was quickly recovered and spirited away out of sight.

The fact that the doors drop a few centimetres when you open them tells you all you need to know, but at least with them open you can see the advanced 'space-age' composite panelling in its raw, unpainted form. Or what might actually be carbon fibre-effect sheet stuck over the orange paint.

You're probably thinking that, at this point, this sounds exactly like a car that's bolted, nailed and glued together by a handful of people in a shed on a farm. Which, unfortunately, is pretty much the case.

I wouldnt even want to do 34 let alone 340 in that crock of crap!

Oh, and it costs £750,000

Edited by airbrakes on Tuesday 24th September 17:52

[storminnorman]

[airbrakes]

doogz said:

Will there be?

I can launch a crossbow bolt off at 200mph. Does my right arm possess 500bhp or so?

Or are you missing a couple of factors out?

Air resistance is PROPORTIONAL to velocity squared. This means that whatever other multiplying factors there are in the equation, for a given % increase in velocity the air resistance will increase by the square of that percentage.
Your crossbow does not need a 500bhp arm because the aerodynamic cross section of an arrow is just a teensy bit smaller than the cross section of a supercar, thus the other multiplying factors in the equation of proportionality are infintely smaller.

Its GCSE maths and physics FFS

[airbrakes]

storminnorman said:

That's almost as well-finished as some of the prize sheds on Barryboys!

[TheInternet]

storminnorman said:

'After having seen the car up close and in person, I can't imagine the demand will be significant enough to help him achieve his goal.' - Autocar

'Heading straight for the dustbin of time.' - Me

[otolith]

The degree of snottiness in that report actually makes me hope they succeed.

[storminnorman]

TheInternet said:

storminnorman said:

'After having seen the car up close and in person, I can't imagine the demand will be significant enough to help him achieve his goal.' - Autocar

'Heading straight for the dustbin of time.' - Me

'If TVR is the Mona Lisa of British sportscars, the Keating Bolt is a penis scribbled onto the back door of a dirty Transit van' - Me

[airbrakes]

doogz said:

So, 1.5 times then? Do you still stand by that? I deleted my comment when I realised it was you. There's a saying about arguing with idiots.

I like your GCSE comment though. I never done any GCSEs. I do have an engineering degree though. How's yours coming along?

Well enough to pass all of my aerodynamics modules thanks.

The drag equation:


For a constant air density, drag is proportional to cross sectional area times drag coefficient. Lets assume that cross sectional area is roughly similar to a Veyron because they are both 2-seat middie supercars. Lets also assume that, at best, the Cd is the same - though in reality it is probably a fair bit worse looking at the shonkiness of that thing compared to the rounded body of a Veyron.

Therefore, lets say that drag force F = C(V^2), where C is a constant defined by 0.5*A*Cd*rho). If we increase V by 1.26 (ie. 340mph claimed/270mph for a veyron), then 1.26^2 is roughly 1.5. Therefore the drag force increases by a factor of 1.5

Capiche?

[R26Andy]

Someone work out what the drag co-efficient would roughly need to be to achieve this please, I can't be arsed.

[jhonn]

Having a laugh? He's probably giddy and giggling at all this publicity!
This bit caught my eye though..


Keating Supercars previously held the world record for a production car in 2009 recording 260.1 mph at Salt Lake Flats, California.

so.. who knows.

[tangerine_sedge]

storminnorman said:

'If TVR is the Mona Lisa of British sportscars, the Keating Bolt is a penis scribbled onto the back door of a dirty Transit van' - Me

To be fair to the man, at least he's built it. Normally these dreamers just knock together a few shiny photoshop images and send them off to the mags/websites.

[yes i'm mad]

With a decent finish it wouldn't look that bad! Should try to build it to a better standard and forget all the silly 340mph figures etc. Just build a nice car.

[m444ttb]

Sniff Petrol was 'enjoying' this awfully today. I had to wonder whether 340mph was a typo and it was meant to be 340kph or 240mph. Seems not though! I hope the guy is just having a laugh.

[Inertiatic]

It looks like a crap product, but to be somewhat fair the 340 mph claims relate to a modified one off version

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-kea...

[otolith]

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/keating-bolt-sup...

article said:

The newest Keating features a 7.0-liter LS7 V8, which is mounted in the middle of the chassis and drives the rear wheels through a six-speed transaxle. The “base” version of the Bolt has 640 hp, but buyers can upgrade to an 840 hp version that will do 0-60 mph in 2.0 seconds, according to Keating.

Keating is reportedly set to offer both a 750-hp upercharged version and two twin-turbocharged versions with 1,000 hp and 2,500 hp respectively.

article said:

A modified Bolt will make a speed record run in October, although Keating did not say how it would differ from production cars. If it has that optional 2,500 hp engine, it should be good on the horsepower front.

Keating reportedly took one its TKRs to 260.1 mph at the El Mirage dry lake bed in California. It was powered by a 1,750 hp twin-turbocharged engine supplied by Nelson Racing Engines, the same company that built the SSC Tuatara’s 7.0-liter, twin-turbocharged V8.

More than double the power of the Veyron?

[hedges88]

That car wouldn't reach those speeds if it had a warp drive from USS Enterprise, it looks like it would come apart over a speed bump!

I hate people sticking some Yank engine into something and then claiming outrageous speeds.

[toerag]

My old VXR did 200mph.....on a dyno.

[whirlybird]

Think Ronan Keating should stick to singing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF.

[Jimmy No Hands]

That Keating bloke looks as mental as his claims.

[jof]

Does anyone else think 'Eraserhead' when looking at this...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/24/article-...

... Or is it just me?