Does anyone know this XJR Portfolio please?

[supermono]

Hopefully looking at it tomorrow.

Any information and opinion gratefully received please!

http://www.mayfairprestigeuk.co.uk/used-cars/jagua...

SM
eta: link! D'oh

Edited by supermono on Wednesday 16th October 17:45

[supermono]

Car looks very good but why would I buy a portfolio over a regular 2007/2008 XJR?

The aluminium trim and the black with a hint of blue to it makes this look superb, so much better than silver and wood. I'll be looking to buy Monday subject to test drive assuming it checks out so any information at all between now and then would be gratefully received.

SM

[tonys]

The Portfolios (or any XJR, for that matter) are lovely, underrated, cars: I particularly like the Portfolio colour scheme and very nearly bought one a few years ago.

I don't know the one advertised, the main things I recall about them are the usual checks that gearbox fluid/filter has been changed, some reports of corrosion on the aluminium (paint bubbles), and that the 20" wheels can knock out the wheel bearings more quickly than the smaller wheels. Batteries can cause problems/error messages if they run low.

[supermono]

Thanks for the inout so far chaps, but i'm trying one in Reading tomorrow and if that's not super amazing which I doubt it will be at 3k over that portfolio, I'll be putting a deposit on the mayfair prestige one imminently.

So final call... anyone know that car? Anything in particular options or common faults I should be aware of?

Thanks in advance. Quite looking forward to a garage containing a GT2 parked next to an XJR. Hair on fire fast or still pretty fast but comfortable. That'll be a nice decision to have to make lol.

Also I'm liking the jag forum too.

SM

[V400TC]

look closely at all suspension Bushes, they can be Spendy to replace
Tyres also need a decent amount of tread with Even Wear.
make sure EPB functions correctly and Cruise control works correctly
they are linked if EPB fails Cruise goes with it.
brakes are not expensive, EBC red stuff are a great reasonable upgrade.
check all gauges are functioning correctly.
anything that will cost you ££ and annoy you if broken or non functioning.
hell I'd take a code reader with me to check for any stored Codes.
all the above can be good bargaining points.
keeping in mind suspension-tyres are a few £££

[supermono]

V400TC said:

look closely at all suspension Bushes, they can be Spendy to replace
Tyres also need a decent amount of tread with Even Wear.
make sure EPB functions correctly and Cruise control works correctly
they are linked if EPB fails Cruise goes with it.
brakes are not expensive, EBC red stuff are a great reasonable upgrade.
check all gauges are functioning correctly.
anything that will cost you ££ and annoy you if broken or non functioning.
hell I'd take a code reader with me to check for any stored Codes.
all the above can be good bargaining points.
keeping in mind suspension-tyres are a few £££

Thanks for the tips. Where's the OBDII port please?

Tyres look new and brakes seem alright but as you said I wouldn't expect them to cost loads red stuff sounds like to good tip thanks I was wondering how brakes were.

Are there any tuning options BTW probably sacrilege I know but if there are software upgrades perhaps to make the gearbox a bit more decisive/less ponderous or get more boost/torque it'd be worth knowing. Obviously I'll get used to it first.

How much oil do they tend to use over 10k interval and how big is the sump? what is the preferred oil please?

325 watts sound system??? crikey does that sound good?

SM

[V400TC]

Port located near consul and dash trim meeting point on Drivers side.
Oil in my 4.2SC nothing of note at all.
upgrades no SW ones that have been produced and proven, but there is the Caldoofy intake(superb value) as on mine and adamesh exhaust(far better sound) as on mine
Money no object there is the Twin Scroll SC option for 550-600hp
Norman on here has that done in his Jaguar I believe.

[9mm]

£12K and (conveniently) 99K miles. They must be dreaming.

[supermono]

9mm said:

£12K and (conveniently) 99K miles. They must be dreaming.

seriously? I know the mileage is convenient but this car is immaculate and a 2007 one owner, supplying dealer complete service history, and corroborated by me personally direct with the dealer's service records/department price wise in my ill informed opinion it seemed reasonable. But I really don't know,

So far I've seen a 2003 which looks odd but was immaculate and 11k, didn't drive amazingly well. A 2008 this afternoon at a main dealer which drove beautifully but because I'm a bit OCD wasn't the car for me due to some repair work I wasn't happy with and that was 15k!

I see some cheaper ones but they're usually older with more miles and the portfolio package to my eyes is just how the xjr should look.

But what's the right price for this car then? I'd hate to go with me heart instead of my head.

SM

[V400TC]

I wouldn't at that mileage TBH
the hose under the SC appears to go around 100k and that is a fugga of a job apparently.

[supermono]

V400TC said:

I wouldn't at that mileage TBH
the hose under the SC appears to go around 100k and that is a fugga of a job apparently.

Interesting, can anyone lay out their first hand experiences please. Mileage, car year and cost?

it'll be really useful for negotiation thanks.

SM

[V400TC]

http://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xj-x350-x358-xj6...

[9mm]

supermono said:

V400TC said:

I wouldn't at that mileage TBH
the hose under the SC appears to go around 100k and that is a fugga of a job apparently.

Interesting, can anyone lay out their first hand experiences please. Mileage, car year and cost?

it'll be really useful for negotiation thanks.

SM

If the supercharger hose on that car has not been replaced yet then it is on borrowed time. They usually go at a much lower mileage, circa 70,000, and it will be £600-£900 for a garage to do the job.

I think the car is overpriced by at least £4000 and whatever price you get it for, unless that job has been done, it will be costing you £600-£900 on top pdq at 99,000 miles.

[supermono]

According to the dealer who's serviced it from new that job hasn't been done. Of course the selling dealer would have to sort it if it happened within the warranty period.

As regards valuation, could you help me with some citations? I'm happy to tell the dealer it's 4k overpriced but I suspect he'll say it isn't and call me a chancer

Obviously if you can point me to a 2007ish example one owner and full supplying history in like new condition ideally a Portfolio for 8k I'm ready to buy

SM

[awg454]

Hi Glass's trade for this car mileage adjusted is £8060.00 retail £11890.00 based on it being in excellent condition so the price they are asking looks about right to me,great cars by the way I sold mine last year

[supermono]

awg454 said:

Hi Glass's trade for this car mileage adjusted is £8060.00 retail £11890.00 based on it being in excellent condition so the price they are asking looks about right to me,great cars by the way I sold mine last year

Thanks for the information, really helpful. Still interested in saving 4k however if possible! I know on the porsche forums every car ever posted is 'vastly overpiced' but usually claimed by people trying to depress the market or people not even in the market.

Was yours a portfolio BTW? I'm interested in knowing if they had bluetooth music play as well as phone, also what else was standard. It seems feindishly difficult to get standard equipment list.

[V400TC]

If you are happy to pay that, and like it, make an offer.
I would look for a model with far lower mileage if it were me looking.
There is always another car out there somewhere, just a case of looking and waiting.

[supermono]

V400TC said:

There is always another car out there somewhere, just a case of looking and waiting.

That's so very true and probably sensible.

But in my view mileage is such an easily modified metric, I'd almost prefer to see a probably genuine 100k piled on by one owner over 6 years of almost certainly motorway miles backed up with supplying dealer service history than some 3/4/5 owner, older car showing 60k miles. Especially if as in this case, the car is absolutely spotless throughout and hard to tell from a new one condition wise.

It's such a shame dealers have created this paranoia about miles. My Peugeot 2006 207 diseasel has 125k miles now -- every last one done by me and thrashed properly hard almost from day 1, but warmed up sympathetically and serviced with Mobil 1 at exactly every 12k miles without fail. Any dealer and anyone else will run away when I try and sell it because "it's about to blow up", however it's used daily and doesn't consume a drop of oil, it still sounds sweet as a nut and does the same 120.0mph it did right from the start. Brakes, tyres, everything taken care of when needed meaning it drives probably better than any other 2006 on the road regardless of mileage.

And if Peugeot can make a car like that when looked after properly, I'm sure Jaguar can...

Saying this, watch out for my "OMG I've bought a lemon" post in three weeks' time

SM
BTW if anyone is looking to buy GJ08SXX from Reading main dealer, please do get in touch. I looked at this and rejected it yesterday and am happy to share my thoughts on its condition / accident repair opinion.

[9mm]

supermono said:

V400TC said:

There is always another car out there somewhere, just a case of looking and waiting.

That's so very true and probably sensible.

But in my view mileage is such an easily modified metric, I'd almost prefer to see a probably genuine 100k piled on by one owner over 6 years of almost certainly motorway miles backed up with supplying dealer service history than some 3/4/5 owner, older car showing 60k miles. Especially if as in this case, the car is absolutely spotless throughout and hard to tell from a new one condition wise.

It's such a shame dealers have created this paranoia about miles. My Peugeot 2006 207 diseasel has 125k miles now -- every last one done by me and thrashed properly hard almost from day 1, but warmed up sympathetically and serviced with Mobil 1 at exactly every 12k miles without fail. Any dealer and anyone else will run away when I try and sell it because "it's about to blow up", however it's used daily and doesn't consume a drop of oil, it still sounds sweet as a nut and does the same 120.0mph it did right from the start. Brakes, tyres, everything taken care of when needed meaning it drives probably better than any other 2006 on the road regardless of mileage.

And if Peugeot can make a car like that when looked after properly, I'm sure Jaguar can...

Saying this, watch out for my "OMG I've bought a lemon" post in three weeks' time

SM
BTW if anyone is looking to buy GJ08SXX from Reading main dealer, please do get in touch. I looked at this and rejected it yesterday and am happy to share my thoughts on its condition / accident repair opinion.

If it's hard to tell from new and has 99,000 on the clock something doesn't add up. I have never seen a car with that mileage free from gravel rash and other wear and tear.

You seem to have convinced yourself that this car is for you so buy it and I wish you good luck.

[supermono]

9mm said:

If it's hard to tell from new and has 99,000 on the clock something doesn't add up. I have never seen a car with that mileage free from gravel rash and other wear and tear.

You seem to have convinced yourself that this car is for you so buy it and I wish you good luck.

It does seem odd for sure, but the low mileage 08 in Reading was covered in gravel rash and looked like it'd covered every one of its 80k miles twice. Perhaps this one has had a bonnet blown over I just don't know - maybe the clock has been wound forward lol.

Anyway drove the Portfolio today and it's a lovely drive and looks just sublime so it's likely I'll go ahead.

But genuinely though I'm really puzzled about the 4k overvaluation you identified -- if Glass's guide is listing 12k why is it valued at 8? I presume you're a dealer with some sort of insider knowledge? Can you maybe point me to an equivalent car for 8k?

SM