RE: Milan bike show: PH2

RE: Milan bike show: PH2

Thursday 7th November 2013

Milan bike show: PH2

Naked BMWs, future 250cc Triumphs, a Kwakker scooter, all-new Harleys. And those Caterhams



The first major bike show of the year kicked off this week in Milan. Between pizza and Peronis, PH2 stuck its nose in to see what's hot...

 

Race ABS and two power modes for S1000R
Race ABS and two power modes for S1000R
BMW
Star of the Milan show was the new and naked S1000R. Featuring an S1000RR inline four engine with a claimed 160hp and 83lb ft of torque, BMW has 're-tuned' the motor, given it more bottom end and dropped the red line by 2,000rpm.

To control the power, BMW have given the S1000R the same spec of electronics package as the RR, including traction control, two power modes and race ABS. The frame and swing arm are identical to the RR's units however the rake is a little bit more relaxed and the wheelbase extended by 22mm. Probably a good move...

Also new from BMW is the R1200RT, which uses the new water-cooled GS motor. Like the GS the RT makes a claimed 125hp with 92lb ft of torque and features two power modes, ASC and even a 'hill start' control, making stopping and starting on a slope easier. The RT also gains a very cool gear shift assist that means you don't have to touch the clutch on up or down shifts as the ECU does it all for you by matching the torque and revs.

New Ducati Monster 1200 and 1200S
New Ducati Monster 1200 and 1200S
Ducati
Only one bike from Ducati, the new Monster 1200 in standard and 1200S guises. Both bikes use a water-cooled Testastretta 11-degree engine with variable fuel modes as standard; however the S gets a 10bhp power boost over the stock bike's 135bhp due to ECU changes. In addition, S owners receive the traditional Ohlins upgrade as well as some carbon parts. Ducati claim to have made the Monster even more user friendly and practical with an adjustable seat height of between 785 and 810mm as well as touring accessories such as panniers.

Want a 200hp, 166kg (wet) Panigale Superleggera? Better be fast 90% have sold out...

MT-09 Street Rally is a dealer-fit option
MT-09 Street Rally is a dealer-fit option
Yamaha
Hot on the heels of the MT-09 triple is the MT-07. A totally new 689cc parallel twin, this machine is a lightweight naked that weighs 164kg yet makes a claimed 50lb ft of torque. The engine has a 270-degree crank layout for 'character' and a 'cross-plane feel', while the chassis is a tubular steel design with an asymmetric swing arm, horizontal shock and 41mm forks. Price will around the £5,500 mark.

Also new from Yamaha is the MT-09 Street Rally, which is a supermoto body kit a dealer bolts on to your MT-09, the relaunch of the SR400, electric suspension on the Super Tenere and a three-wheeled scooter concept.

New Fireblade SP gets Ohlins suspension
New Fireblade SP gets Ohlins suspension
Honda
Yep there's a new Fireblade. In fact there are two! The stock bike has been updated with some small cylinder head and ECU mods boosting power by 3hp and increasing midrange. But far more exciting is the SP. The first time Honda have created a Fireblade SP model, this new bikes gets Ohlins suspension, Brembo monobloc brakes, single seat unit, sportier pegs, new wheels and a 'balanced' engine.

Essentially Honda have selected the pistons so they are nicely matched and gas-flowed the head too. The net result is a 3bhp increase in performance and more midrange, not to mention a higher price tag...

Honda have also revamped the CBR600F and CB600F to new 650 capacity models, given the VFR800 a thorough going over with a new look, increased the NC700s to NC750, the CBR250R is now a CBR300R and there are a few new cruisers.

Harley's first new bike for 13 years
Harley's first new bike for 13 years
Harley-Davidson
For the first time in 13 years, Harley-Davidson unveiled a brand new platform of motorcycle at Milan – a water-cooled 750 V-twin. Actual details were fairly sketchy as it is a late 2014/early 2015 model, but PH2 did some digging.

The bike is powered by a Revolution-X 750cc water-cooled 60-degree V-twin with 4 valves per head and cam chains rather than the traditional Harley pushrods. Aimed at a younger customer who doesn't care too much about tradition, hence the fact it isn't a 45-degree motor. The Street, which also comes in 500cc format for other markets, will be an entry level bike priced below the Sportster 883; however, it will produce roughly the same, if not a little bit more power.

Triumph shocked all with 250cc bike news
Triumph shocked all with 250cc bike news
Triumph
Two new bikes form Triumph, the Thunderbird Commander and Thunderbird LT. Despite looking pretty similar to before, these bikes have been thoroughly reworked and feature a new frame, revised suspension and a new exhaust system. The Commander is a more aggressively styled muscle bike while the touring-orientated LT comes with panniers, white-wall Avon tyres and a screen.

However at the end of the press conference Triumph made everyone stop and listen. Announcing it will increase its investment in new models substantially in the coming years, the company also confirmed it is building a 250cc single-cylinder bike that will appear in 2015. While spy shots of this machine have been seen, the picture Triumph showed was of a faired 675-syle bike.

Z1000 revisions include tweaked engine
Z1000 revisions include tweaked engine
Kawasaki
Before Milan there was a lot of talk of a ZX-10R-engined Z1000 – sorry, it didn't appear. More a re-work than anything else, the new Z1000 has had its engine revised with new cams, ECU settings, exhaust and airbox mods. The chassis get Showa BPF forks, monobloc calipers, optional ABS and a funky new look.

Also new is a Kawasaki scooter. Why have Kawasaki built a 299cc scooter? In Europe scooter sales are big business and Kawasaki want a slice of the action. The J300 is a large capacity machine rather than a 125 as dealers felt that a bigger bike was more in keeping with Kawasaki ethos and spirit. If it takes off, Kawasaki is looking at increasing as well as decreasing engine capacity in a range of scooters.

MV

New MV Turismo allows clutchless shifts
New MV Turismo allows clutchless shifts

One new bike from MV, the Turismo Veloce 800. Destined to arrive in late 2014, the Veloce 800 uses the firm's 798cc triple with a new engine management unit to improve throttle response and also add an 'auto blipper' to allow clutchless shifts.

Like the Brutale its gets eight traction control settings, three fuel modes (plus one custom map) and a claimed 125hp. However the Veloce adds ABS as standard into the equation. The frame is all new, the fuel tank a decent 20 litres and the rear wheel is also unique to this bike as is a very neat colour LCD dash. Fully Bluetooth enabled, it can act as an interface between devices such as GPS and phones. MV also unveiled a limited edition 'Ago' F3. Each bike will be personally signed by the great man and features an Italian flag style paint scheme.

KTM
The only new bikes for KTM at Milan were the small capacity faired RC range. The RC125, RC200 and RC390 all look amazing but their best feature is the foam pillion seat/single seat unit. Absolute genius! These bikes deserve to sell by the bucket load, and they probably will.

Each Brough Superior will cost over £50K
Each Brough Superior will cost over £50K
Brough
Built by French designer Thierry Henriette, the Brough Superior S.S.100 is jaw-droppingly beautiful. The name Brough is owned by Brit Mark Upham and with Henriette he is planning to build a very limited run of these bikes. According to Brough, this bike is a running prototype with the final machine aiming to make between 100 and 150hp with 85lb ft of torque from its 997cc 88-degree V-twin motor. Tipping the scales at 180kg, the bike has a steel frame, double wishbone front end and a four-disc CMM front brake system that is used as it is smaller than conventional discs and therefore looks a bit like a drum brake. Brough are taking orders for the S.S. 100 and claim the first one will hit the streets in late 2014 or 2015. Each one is bespoke and will cost over £50,000...

Suzuki: Flying girls, yes. New bike, no
Suzuki: Flying girls, yes. New bike, no
Caterham
Apologies, I just didn't get any of Caterham's three bikes. What the hell is the Brutus and what is the point in it? This bike was being punted about last year as the OVER Brutus, now it is a Caterham? If someone can enlighten me I'm all ears but with Caterham claiming production will start in spring I simply don't believe it.

And finally...Suzuki

Another dismal show for Suzuki was rounded off by...nothing. Nope, not a thing. The V-Strom 1000 has already been seen and aside from a posed-up model hanging on behind the bike, they were embarrassingly short on anything at all. Come on, rip the fairing off a GSX-R1000 and let us have a naked version!






Author
Discussion

Z28DUNC

Original Poster:

155 posts

150 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Anyone else thinking Katana? That KTM at the top of the page has very similar lines.

DevonPaul

1,186 posts

137 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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I was wondering how a November show can be billed as "The first major show of the year"?

pozi

1,723 posts

187 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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DevonPaul said:
I was wondering how a November show can be billed as "The first major show of the year"?
Bike years are different to normal years, a bit like magazines when the January edition comes out late November.

NAS

2,543 posts

231 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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DevonPaul said:
I was wondering how a November show can be billed as "The first major show of the year"?
This is the first MY2014 show. That's why. There used to be one either in Cologne or Paris in September for the upcoming MY, but currently the EICMA is the biggest show in town.

jamespink

1,218 posts

204 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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How horrid are those Harley gaters.... Very Waso pattern part look.

RTH

1,057 posts

212 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Motorcycles seem to be going in to an ugly phase.

garypotter

1,502 posts

150 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Nope nothing tickles my wallet there.....

stick with the old faithful and yes agree with previous comments about the Harley not just the gators but the whole bike!!

moto_traxport

4,237 posts

221 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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RTH said:
Motorcycles seem to be going in to an ugly phase.
+1 seems to have been happening for awhile. frown

Edit. Blind as a bat!

Edited by moto_traxport on Thursday 7th November 17:00

jimmy156

3,691 posts

187 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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I know nothing about bikes, but i just googled the Ducati Panigale Superleggera. I might have had a little accident.

bobberz

1,832 posts

199 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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I think the most interesting to me is the Brough, but I'd rather have an original one (especially for that price! eek)

The Harley is big news, being that they seldom come out with new platforms and even more rarely come out with anything "lightweight". I don't usually like water-cooled bikes due to the necessity of an ugly radiator, but I think H-D have managed to make it look fairly unobtrusive.

Depending on the price, it may make a good entry-level alternative to similar Jap bikes, but more importantly, it'll become Harley's new "girls' bike" freeing up Sportster fans (such as myself) from the traditional ribbing by big-twin guys (whose bikes are slower wink )!

I think the (yellow?) one in the background looks nicer than the one in the foreground:


I'm a big fan of MV Agusta and know a guy with more than 20 vintage MVs (talking about '50s-'60s single cylinder race bikes), as well as another guy with a modern F4 Tamburini which is about as beautiful (and expensive!) as a sport bike can get. Good luck finding one for sale, they only made 300 of them. I'll post a few pics in a bit.


bobberz

1,832 posts

199 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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As promised:

1957 MV Agusta 175:


1964 MV Agusta Gran Turismo Lusso 125 (just rolls off the tongue, don't it?):


Both together:


In addition to 20 or so MVs, he's got a few vintage Ducatis (including a little "Cucciolo" moped), at least one British bike (a gorgeous 1964 BSA), and at least one vintage BMW (I believe).

The other guy I know has (in addition to a couple Ferraris) one of the 300 MV Agusta F4 1000 Tamburini special editions built in 2005. I'd take one of these over any modern Ducati superbike (as lovely as the Panigales are).







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smilo996

2,791 posts

170 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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Great to see new bikes from so many European manufactuers.

As for Ugly bikes:
New Blade
F3 800 Ago
Ducati 1199 Superlegggggeeerrraagh
KTM 390
Triumpgh Tiger with teeth.

Really.

The Harley however is very ugly. But sales are up so no accounting for taste.

Andy ap

1,147 posts

172 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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Not really a bike person but this would sell one to me.


And what on earth is she doing?