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Snoozy

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Speaking with a friend the other day who works for a Police force(sorry service)in the South, they told me that a PCSO actually took home more money than a full time Police sergeant this month! Now some people think PCSO's are good for the Police ( mostly senior officers )but i'm sorry but i think there is something deeply wrong when this happens. Goes to show how real Police officers are regarded by the establishment.

Red 4

2,480 posts

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Not unless the PCSO had worked lots of o/t

or

The sgt has been off sick for a while and is on half pay

Snoozy

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Nope, sergeant has not been off sick at all and pcso's very rarely if ever do o/t

Red 4

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Snoozy said:
Nope, sergeant has not been off sick at all and pcso's very rarely if ever do o/t
Your friend is wrong then.


Bigends

438 posts

14 months

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Nope - PCSO will be on around 20K Sgt around 40-45K so no chance
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Snoozy

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What do you base that comment on? Friend was told by the sergeant who they work for, why would they say that?

Red 4

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Snoozy said:
What do you base that comment on? Friend was told by the sergeant who they work for, why would they say that?
Sergeants pay - £37k - £41k

PCSO circa £20k

I can't comment on why the sergeant said that.

Snoozy

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Ok fair enough, I find it strange for someone to say that as well if not true. cheers

Aretnap

871 posts

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Police pay scales here

http://www.policeoracle.com/pay_and_conditions/pol...

Minimum for a sergeant is £36.5K basic.

PCSO pay varies from force to force, but even in the Met the maximum basic pay is £24K.

http://www.metpolicecareers.co.uk/pcso/pay_and_ben...

They talk about shift allowances and location allowances which might bring that up to about £32K for some PCSOs, but that's still well short of even a sergeant's basic pay.

Hooli

28,182 posts

86 months

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The police claim to be underpaid on that? FFS.

roofer

2,552 posts

97 months

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Hooli said:
The police claim to be underpaid on that? FFS.
They are, you wouldn't get me out of bed for that, and i don't need to deal with scumtards everyday (unless working in London)

Hooli

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roofer said:
Hooli said:
The police claim to be underpaid on that? FFS.
They are, you wouldn't get me out of bed for that, and i don't need to deal with scumtards everyday (unless working in London)
I wouldn't do their job either, but it sounds a decent rate to me.

La Liga

3,104 posts

42 months

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It could happen to net pay. Bottom wage sergeant, top wage PCSO and overtime. Sergeant pays more into pension and has a greater amount of pay in a higher tax band. Don't think PCSO overtime would have a pension contribution.

scott15

183 posts

45 months

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It depends on where you are. I'm in the South East. When i applied for PCSO a few months back, it was 18,300 or so.


gruffalo

3,162 posts

112 months

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Snoozy said:
Ok fair enough, I find it strange for someone to say that as well if not true. cheers
Oh no coulda this become another "police don't tell the whole truth" thread;-)


Aretnap

871 posts

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La Liga said:
It could happen to net pay. Bottom wage sergeant, top wage PCSO and overtime. Sergeant pays more into pension and has a greater amount of pay in a higher tax band. Don't think PCSO overtime would have a pension contribution.
If we're talking take home pay there are other deductions whihc might be relevant. If the sergeant was paying for childcare vouchers through a salary sacrifice scheme and had an expensive bike through the cycle to work scheme (assuming the police take part in such schemes) that would take a few hundred quid off his money in the bank at the end of the month, but his overall compensation package would be the same.

streaky

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La Liga said:
It could happen to net pay. Bottom wage sergeant, top wage PCSO and overtime. Sergeant pays more into pension and has a greater amount of pay in a higher tax band. Don't think PCSO overtime would have a pension contribution.
And the sergeant's pay might have had CSA attachments. wink

Streaky

littleredrooster

2,718 posts

82 months

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Mrs Rooster used to be a PCSO and I can assure you that her pay was absolutely nowhere near that of a mate who was a newly-promoted sergeant; somewhere close to 50%, in fact.

Derek Smith

20,572 posts

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Civilians used to get a higher rate on overtime that police officers when I was in the control room. I had an overtime budget and could not pick the cheapest person for a particular bit of overtime. The person on the lowest rate in the room was a PC with a bit over 2 years in the job.

Regarding the pay, I was talking to a new solicitor, who was defending a bloke who'd been charged with 6 offences of indecency with children. Her firm had defended him for 26 previous offences of interfering with 10-12-year-old boys. They'd got him off all of them.

She was being stroppy, presumably to get me irritated and not concentrate on the task in hand. Apropos nothing, and on tape, she mentioned that starting pay for PCs, comparing it unfavourably with her pay. I wanted to shut her up so just pointed out that we had a recruiting drive going on at that time and would be interested in a law graduate. She said: I don't want to do that job, dealing with all the scum.

I pointed out that who she was dealing with at that moment.

No more sledging from her that day.

The situation is currently that a considerable number of experienced officers are looking for other jobs, and some are getting them.

It used to be that the norm for a police officer was 7 years in the post. I can see this returning once, if, the economy really turns the corner.

Edited by Derek Smith on Friday 6th December 09:22

Defcon5

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scott15 said:
It depends on where you are. I'm in the South East. When i applied for PCSO a few months back, it was 18,300 or so.
That's basic pay so, plus shift allowance, plus weekend enhancement. (Up to 20% and about 6% respectively)


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