POLICE...... False evidence
Discussion
OK guys, i have a bit of a problem, the story is as follows
On the 5th of Feb, i was down an unlight disused road, sat with my girlfriend at about 9 pm eating a KFC which i had just bought... It was raining very hard and was pitch black.
A police riot van came, must have seen my lights and came over for a closer look. I now know that there were 4 officers in the van, 2 of them specials. One got out, put on his foul weather gear and came over to me, "alright John, can i aks just what it is yopur doing down here" he says to me.
I told him that i was eating and asked him if there was a problem with that. He then TOLD me to get out the car to which i refused because of the weather, cold very wet and windy.
He then got very annoyed as i wouldnt get out so he then went on to check tread depths, washer fluid level, lights and did the usual PNC check... He again wasnt very happy with this and told me that my time will come and they will get my licence off my for a very least a short while.
I then said is that it, and i then left. Reversed back, and drove away quite pleased (smug in fact) that for the 42nd time i had been pulled, they could yet agian do nothing.
As i drove away, a coulpe of minutes later, i was stopped by FOUR more cars, 9 officers in total. Dragged out my car, they opened the door so hard it smashed the check strap and opened so far it fu**** the door skin and moved the drivers side wing forward about 8 mm.
I was cautioned for driving without due care and attention. and released
The police from the dark road said that when they let me go from the dark road, i pulled away at great speed, spinning my wheels fror approx 60 meters. Quotes in thier statements say that they new that they were spinning becouse of the loud screeching noise and the smoke... IN THE WET, I HARDLY THINK SO
All 4 officers say the samy, all statements are word for word perfect.
The History
Since june 2002 i have now been stopped in excess of 42 times in the consett area
I have 42 producers to prove this, and not so much as a parking ticket to my name.
No criminal record, though i have made 4 complaints anout harrasment to the Chief inspector about this.
my lawyer has the CCTV tape showing the second time i was stopped, the damage to the car and the number of police that pulled me over for a driving offence...
I have a lawyer, but he says this could go either way.
Can any one help or has anyone reading been in a similar situation before. Am i doomed because of the 4 officers all lying together???
I have pleaded not guilty to this and im due back in court on the 19th of this month. I know im facing a maximum of 9 points and a big fine, but if there is any advice anyone can give me it will be greatly appreciated.
Please do not say let justice take its corse, this is the police taking a serious disliking to a young lad in an exspensive flash car, im sure im not the only one out there
Thanks if you have managed to read this far
John
On the 5th of Feb, i was down an unlight disused road, sat with my girlfriend at about 9 pm eating a KFC which i had just bought... It was raining very hard and was pitch black.
A police riot van came, must have seen my lights and came over for a closer look. I now know that there were 4 officers in the van, 2 of them specials. One got out, put on his foul weather gear and came over to me, "alright John, can i aks just what it is yopur doing down here" he says to me.
I told him that i was eating and asked him if there was a problem with that. He then TOLD me to get out the car to which i refused because of the weather, cold very wet and windy.
He then got very annoyed as i wouldnt get out so he then went on to check tread depths, washer fluid level, lights and did the usual PNC check... He again wasnt very happy with this and told me that my time will come and they will get my licence off my for a very least a short while.
I then said is that it, and i then left. Reversed back, and drove away quite pleased (smug in fact) that for the 42nd time i had been pulled, they could yet agian do nothing.
As i drove away, a coulpe of minutes later, i was stopped by FOUR more cars, 9 officers in total. Dragged out my car, they opened the door so hard it smashed the check strap and opened so far it fu**** the door skin and moved the drivers side wing forward about 8 mm.
I was cautioned for driving without due care and attention. and released
The police from the dark road said that when they let me go from the dark road, i pulled away at great speed, spinning my wheels fror approx 60 meters. Quotes in thier statements say that they new that they were spinning becouse of the loud screeching noise and the smoke... IN THE WET, I HARDLY THINK SO
All 4 officers say the samy, all statements are word for word perfect.
The History
Since june 2002 i have now been stopped in excess of 42 times in the consett area
I have 42 producers to prove this, and not so much as a parking ticket to my name.
No criminal record, though i have made 4 complaints anout harrasment to the Chief inspector about this.
my lawyer has the CCTV tape showing the second time i was stopped, the damage to the car and the number of police that pulled me over for a driving offence...
I have a lawyer, but he says this could go either way.
Can any one help or has anyone reading been in a similar situation before. Am i doomed because of the 4 officers all lying together???
I have pleaded not guilty to this and im due back in court on the 19th of this month. I know im facing a maximum of 9 points and a big fine, but if there is any advice anyone can give me it will be greatly appreciated.
Please do not say let justice take its corse, this is the police taking a serious disliking to a young lad in an exspensive flash car, im sure im not the only one out there
Thanks if you have managed to read this far
John
's area or close by? Could be worth contacting the local News. 
PetrolTed said:
Streetcop, your attitude stinks sometimes.
Well said Ted. Street I sometimes think you have a rose-tinted view of the police force, I'm sure you're a good copper but if you try to tell me that corruption and bad policing is not rife within the force then I suggest you need a reality check.
As someone else said before, if we cut you down the middle, would you be stamped with "Police" on the inside?
I submitted a complaint 20 mins after it happened, they all mention it in their statements after the event, they say the wind caught the door, yet there is a bloody great big tree next to the car and the video shows not even a flinch,
Lucky for me, as i recall it was windy that night.
They now say that its using nessesary force to get me from the car.... NO CHASE, NO CRIME just a possible act which broke the ROAD TRAFFIC ACT..
Well street cop, if you you are an officer, i wouldnt expect expect anything other than that absolutly useless yet smug reply
But this is how im gonna go down if i do get done
Thanks
Jon
Lucky for me, as i recall it was windy that night.
They now say that its using nessesary force to get me from the car.... NO CHASE, NO CRIME just a possible act which broke the ROAD TRAFFIC ACT..
Well street cop, if you you are an officer, i wouldnt expect expect anything other than that absolutly useless yet smug reply
But this is how im gonna go down if i do get done
Thanks
Jon
GreigM said:
Streetcop, your attitude stinks sometimes.
Well said Ted. Street I sometimes think you have a rose-tinted view of the police force, I'm sure you're a good copper but if you try to tell me that corruption and bad policing is not rife within the force then I suggest you need a reality check.
As someone else said before, if we cut you down the middle, would you be stamped with "Police" on the inside?
"Danish" ?
Sorry,
Erm, I would have seriously been down to the nearest station that evening to make a complaint about the whole lot, given a statement, and made a charge for criminal damage to your car!
Police brutality and such like.
Surely this is a much more serious matter than it seems. If they are making false joint statements, it's called obstruction of justice no? Carries a prison sentence and the like. Why can't they just swallow their pride and get on with the rest of the day, rather than acting like they did.
It beggars belief these are the people meant to uphold the law, and protect the public from crime, and here they are making false claims to inciminate an innocent person.
All they do is assume your guilty, with no evidence to prove you've done or are doing anything wrong! Then they assume you won't excersise your right to silence, and make up a crime for you!
No wonder people are loosing faith in the police force when they do things like this, and shoot people with a table leg etc etc!
Tsk
Dave
Police brutality and such like.
Surely this is a much more serious matter than it seems. If they are making false joint statements, it's called obstruction of justice no? Carries a prison sentence and the like. Why can't they just swallow their pride and get on with the rest of the day, rather than acting like they did.
It beggars belief these are the people meant to uphold the law, and protect the public from crime, and here they are making false claims to inciminate an innocent person.
All they do is assume your guilty, with no evidence to prove you've done or are doing anything wrong! Then they assume you won't excersise your right to silence, and make up a crime for you!
No wonder people are loosing faith in the police force when they do things like this, and shoot people with a table leg etc etc!
Tsk
Dave
Streetcop said:
Best of Luck...
Nice attitude there, officer. Hope you never need anyone's advice / sympathy. Ever.
I've re-typed this 3 times to avoid swearing, btw.
To the original post:
It seems your situation has escalated to an alarming level. Perhaps it would be advantageous to consider going to the press / higher police complaints authority?
Good luck.
Street, you and I enjoy the odd good natured arguement. However, EVO is a new member asking for advice. If you cant give any, dont bother posting. You have said on here before words to the effect of "If you complain about us, we`ll pick on you", so obviously you are a man of your word.
EVO. Don`t take too much notice of Street`s post - obviously he is having a bad day. That is not the normal of intelligence which us regular PHers expect from the cops who post on here. As for your dilemma, I dont know what to suggest. Fight it all the way I guess, and then change your car. Good Luck.
Steve
EVO. Don`t take too much notice of Street`s post - obviously he is having a bad day. That is not the normal of intelligence which us regular PHers expect from the cops who post on here. As for your dilemma, I dont know what to suggest. Fight it all the way I guess, and then change your car. Good Luck.
Steve
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