Very OT Bt how do you take a Vulcan apart?
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williamp said:
Great photos. few questions and observations:
-On the 6th photo down it shows the fuselarge with an upper and lower decks. Is this what it seems, or is one the bomb bay, the other the crew compartment?
-Sherpa van. Nice!
-I never appreciated the scale until I saw thes ephotos (although I knew it was big). How heavy was it?
-Where can I get 2m high axle stands? Always wanted to work on my car without bending down AT ALL!!!
Once again, great photos. Many thanks for posting them
The Vulcan had a sort of split level cockpit i.e. pilot/co-pilot seated on elevated section up front( good thing really
) and just aft on the lower level was the nav station and radio/bomb operations seats (3 i think).......it's a very dark and gloomy cockpit....every panel is black with little to illuminate the surroundings and the cockpit windows are very small (all to do with nuclear anti-flash i presume).....i recently had a look around one at Coventry air museum where they will let you in and have a look around.... p.s. thanks for the photos ....very good illustrations showing technical aspect of the split (looks like they had to de-rivet quite a few ribs/stringers?
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Balmoral Green said:
What a great picture, it really does contrast the high technology of the Vulcan with what the 'everyday man in the street' was living with at the time.
Guinness, a pint a day! And the truck! and the sign on the bridge! God I wish I could time travel.
I love also the bloke on the left, in the hat, is "determined" to walk through the tunnel now, despte the Vulcan being there!
Also, int he last colour photo. Do I get a point for identifying the cockpit section on the right as a Canberra nose section?
sad pictures like this.......and happier piccies like this
www.avrovulcan.org.uk/jon_land/formation_waddington.htm
>> Edited by father ted on Saturday 13th November 10:47
>> Edited by father ted on Saturday 13th November 10:49
williamp said:
Great photos. few questions and observations:
-On the 6th photo down it shows the fuselarge with an upper and lower decks. Is this what it seems, or is one the bomb bay, the other the crew compartment?
-Sherpa van. Nice!
-I never appreciated the scale until I saw thes ephotos (although I knew it was big). How heavy was it?
-Where can I get 2m high axle stands? Always wanted to work on my car without bending down AT ALL!!!
Once again, great photos. Many thanks for posting them
This pic show the cockpit section, with the radar at the front, removed. The part behind with the possible 'crew compartment' is infact the nose gear and No1 tank section.
The lower part is where the nose gear stows after take off. Also in there you have the Air con packs, radios and the main Aircraft Battery. Above this you have the most forward fuel tanks No1's. These are the largest of 15 tanks, an odd number due to the AAPP having its own fuel tank. You can have more than 15 tanks when you fit 'saddle' tanks on the weapons bay. Most Vulcans had a forward C type saddle tank in there, with the tankers having another two behind.
Oh BTW those Number 1 tanks are big enough for you to get in and stand up, with out being able to touch the top. I know I have done it!
Father Ted, like the pic of XL427. I work on XL426 which is at Southend Airport, the engines still run every month and she taxi's about 12 times a year. I really must sort out a PH photo call!
If Microsoft had designed the Vulcan....it wouldn't have gone under that tunnel.......
I have a mental picture of Mr Big from Avro......
"Right, chaps, the good news is....we're going to design a bloody great bomber.......
The bad news is....it's got to go through the tunnel round the back......"
why didn't they just nuke the bridge....??
I used to lie flat on my back on the beach at Lossiemouth with my son lying on my chest, he would be 8 or 9 at the time, and wait for the Vulcan coming right over our heads at about 100 ft.
The noise was unbelievable, it shook the sand.
They would take it out to sea for about five hundred yards and then stand it on it's tail and vanish like a fighter!!
Absolutely awesome power!!
The noise was unbelievable, it shook the sand.
They would take it out to sea for about five hundred yards and then stand it on it's tail and vanish like a fighter!!
Absolutely awesome power!!
LRdriver II said:
Loadsa room for the nav, but the two pilots have asmuch space akin to sitting two-up in a caterfield. (with the wet weather gear up..) very cosy..
I think I'd rather be a pilot or co-pilot on a jump seat....the three in the rear had to grab their chutes and jump thru a door barely 2' wide. I understand that of the two or so Vulcan crashes, the latter three did not survive.....
A pal of mine used to nav these, and at low level got banged around so much that it was difficult to get fingers on the radio and nav aid controls....they would also be wearing radiation suits and face masks...
Brave men!
Mel
>> Edited by Melv on Saturday 13th November 18:58
anonymous said:
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Yes Supraman ....correct....have a look at the Vulcans in Camera website....truly awesome piccies
Regarding Lossiemouth.....was my first serious experiment with alcohol up there....and did just the same.....lay on the Beach watching (as was common back in '83) Buccs ,Jags,Hunters, visiting Phantoms and Shackletons
Melv said:
Loadsa room for the nav, but the two pilots have asmuch space akin to sitting two-up in a caterfield. (with the wet weather gear up..) very cosy..
I think I'd rather be a pilot or co-pilot on a jump seat....the three in the rear had to grab their chutes and jump thru a door barely 2' wide. I understand that of the two or so Vulcan crashes, the latter three did not survive.....
A pal of mine used to nav these, and at low level got banged around so much that it was difficult to get fingers on the radio and nav aid controls....they would also be wearing radiation suits and face masks...
Brave men!
Mel
>> Edited by Melv on Saturday 13th November 18:58
Apparently one of the crashes the 3 'back-seaters' got out.....found this out while googling Vulcan crashes......unfortunately the crashes at Heathrow and at Luqa in Malta resulted in tragic loss of life for the rear crew members
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