Winter Tyres or AT's on a 4x4

[MackemPete]

Dont want to get flamed for starting another winter Tyre thread...but there are that many on here its nigh on impossible to find one that compares winter tyres to AT tyres on a 4x4.

My Rangie's set of vredestein wintrac extremes will probably not get me through this years winter, so am i better off replacing them with more of the same (or similar) or going with something like a set of BF goodrich AT's or general grabber AT2's.

[Happy82]

A lot of AT tyres are mud and snow rated (M&S). My partner has Pirelli Scorpion STR (M+S)on her Jeep which are a road biased tyre and she has had no issues in snow/ cold.

[Simond S]

I use M&S but they don't grip anywhere near as well as winter tyres in the wet or cold.

Only better (imo) in the snow and mud.

[TLandCruiser]

If you spend most of your time on the road just get writer tyres

[TLandCruiser]

If you spend most of your time on the road just get writer tyres

[McWigglebum4th]

ATs are noisy on tarmac and not very good on ice

[scotty_d]

I run toyo AT on my rangie, find them quite on the road and great in snow as we take it for sking every year.

[MackemPete]

So ATs while not as good in the ice aren't going to leave me stranded spinning all 4 wheel, Looking like one of those people with a Chelsea tractor on summer tyres

[BFG TERRANO]

I found BF Goodrich ATs brilliant ploughing across Salisbury plane and not bad on the road either. Road noise is minimal to, id buy again.

[MackemPete]

BFG TERRANO said:

I found BF Goodrich ATs brilliant ploughing across Salisbury plane and not bad on the road either. Road noise is minimal to, id buy again.

Was this in the snow/ice or just off road?

[Bill]

AT2s have a good reputation in snow and some sizes get a winter mountain/snowflake rating, but if you only want it for road/light off road I'd go with winters.

[tr7v8]

One point is the General AT2 is obsolete so it is now the AT. I have them on the Grand Cherokee. Fantastic in bad weather, only ever used them in light snow, Ice & very long wet grass & they've been fine. We haven't had deep snow since they were fitted. I use them all the year round. Mine are coming up for 3 years old & have around 6-7mm left, they start at 10mm. That is for around 32K miles. They are no noisier than the mix of tyres I had on earlier, which were more road orientated than the AT. They were £390 for 4 fitted, that is for 275/70 x 16 so a bargain as well

[Bill]

The AT2 is still available in some (commercial?) sizes.

[tr7v8]

True it was discontinued because of EU noise tests so I hear. So commercial sizes maybe treated differently. All the reviews say the AT is much better than the AT2 though.

[plasticpig]

I had General Grabber AT2's on my old P38 Range Rover. Unstoppable in snow; I drove it in very deep snow. As for ice well I never had a problem but AT2's are studable and I had a pack of studs in boot just in case. A studded tyre will perform far better on ice than a non studded winter tyre.

[anonymous-user]

ATs make much more sense in the UK.

[BFG TERRANO]

MackemPete said:

BFG TERRANO said:

I found BF Goodrich ATs brilliant ploughing across Salisbury plane and not bad on the road either. Road noise is minimal to, id buy again.

Was this in the snow/ice or just off road?

Good in snow also. Last winter was a good test for them and I was impressed. Some say not to push them in the wet but I never had any moments of worry with them.

[Bill]

BFG TERRANO said:

Good in snow also. Last winter was a good test for them and I was impressed. Some say not to push them in the wet but I never had any moments of worry with them.

IME BFG ATs aren't as good as GG ATs in the wet, although the BFGs were on a Defender and 235 wide and the GGs on a Disco and 265. I had some moments on the BFGs whereas the GGs have been utterly planted barring the greasiness recently. The BFGs seem utterly indestructible off road though.

[BFG TERRANO]

Bill said:

BFG TERRANO said:

Good in snow also. Last winter was a good test for them and I was impressed. Some say not to push them in the wet but I never had any moments of worry with them.

IME BFG ATs aren't as good as GG ATs in the wet, although the BFGs were on a Defender and 235 wide and the GGs on a Disco and 265. I had some moments on the BFGs whereas the GGs have been utterly planted barring the greasiness recently. The BFGs seem utterly indestructible off road though.

GG was my 1st choice but there was a 6 week or so wait to get some, the BFG ATs were on the shelf. It was on my 1st 4x4 and my first AT tyres so I have nothing to compare them to but yes, very good all round tyre.

[wacbas]

Had at2s on a disco 2 for 3 years. Pretty poor in the snow imo and weak sidewalls off road. Wear rate was good. I ended up selling them and changing for wintracs which were a low better in terms of grip and noise in all conditions notably wet. Never used in mud though.