RE: Ford Mustang: PH Heroes

RE: Ford Mustang: PH Heroes

Friday 24th January 2014

Ford Mustang: PH Heroes

Like Dr Who the Ford Mustang has had many rebirths but the last regeneration remains a true PH Hero



Reinventing a classic for our times is one of the toughest gigs for any car manufacturer. Get it wrong, and your fans won't forgive - but get it right, and the name will live on gloriously. When Ford wheeled out the S197 Mustang to steal the Detroit Motor Show 10 years ago, its corporate fingers must have been crossed for the latter outcome - although, deep down, the top guys at Dearborn will have known that the Sid Ramnarace-penned remix had success written all over it.

'Hank, you got that sunset filter?' 'Sure thing...'
'Hank, you got that sunset filter?' 'Sure thing...'
Even before the first 2005 Mustangs hit the showrooms, fans were clamouring to get one in their garages - on both sides of the Atlantic. The Mustang was back on form, managing both to look contemporary while respectfully referencing the best models from the back catalogue. The new-age Mustang had a 5.8-inch longer wheelbase [we'll defer to imperial given country of origin - Ed.] than its predecessor, and was far better proportioned as a result, and it abounded with clever styling details, reminders of the 1960s and 70s glory years.

Out with the old, in with the ... oh
Under the skin, the Mustang was pretty much all-new, throwing off its old 70s underpinnings, riding on a platform distantly related to the Lincoln LS, Ford Thunderbird and Jaguar S-Type, and retaining that Mustang must-have, the solid rear axle. If that doesn't inspire confidence now, it's worth bearing in mind that it was heavily modified, stiffened all-round, and featuring a three-link coilover suspension set-up, tied down at the rear by a tubular Panhard rod.

2005 Mustang successfully reinvented classic
2005 Mustang successfully reinvented classic
The star of the range at launch was the Mustang GT, which was powered by an updated 4.6-litre version of Ford's modular V8 in three-valve, variable-cam-timing form. Specific power output was low at 300hp, but with 320lb ft of torque to play with, and one of the most mellodious exhaust notes known to man, accessing the Mustang GT's grunt was an indulgent experience. Its willingness to rev was a bit of a culture shock for anyone used to more breathless US V8s, the 420hp, four-valve 5.0-litre 'Coyote' V8 launched with the 2011 model year an even more significant step up.

Jumping in a Mustang GT is a bit of a disappointment, as the drama of the styling and spec sheet set it up for a bit of a fall. The interior design is okay, but many of the materials and switchgear are more Aldi than Audi. But fire it up, listen to that exhaust burble, and prepare to forgive. A standard 300hp Mustang GT certainly feels brisk, all burning rubber, wheelspin and roaring V8, should you need it. But its talents are far wider ranging - dry-road A- and B-road handling is genuinely enjoyable, and as long as you're not intimidated by its width and the fact that you're sitting on the wrong side, it really is a great car to hoon, with high cornering limits.

Earlier 4.6 V8 is adequate, later 5.0 much better
Earlier 4.6 V8 is adequate, later 5.0 much better
Meaty man
Turn-in is swift, the steering has ample feel, and the meaty gearchange and clutch are great once you're used to them. You'll also be surprised at how effortless it is to maintain high averages. That back-end, also, only really comes out to play when you want it to, or should you not be looking too closely for mid-corner bumps and ridges. In the wet, just take care, and adopt a slow-in fast-out approach, and you'll be fine.

Many non-believers will joke about the Mustang's fuel consumption, and it is possible - when having fun - to burn through unleaded at the rate of up to 15mpg. And that won't last for very long, on account of its small fuel tank. But in the UK, and in real-world conditions, a sympathetic owner can quite happily see 25mpg-plus out of a gently-driven Mustang GT. Of course, that takes a combination of willpower, average speed cameras, and roads without good overtaking spots...

Not surprising Keith remembers this car fondly
Not surprising Keith remembers this car fondly
Many Mustang GTs will now have been lowered, have uprated suspension, and are sitting on lower profile rubber than the standard 55-section tyres - and when this is done properly, handling is improved. And the same goes for that V8 - most drivers will soon find the tuning bug almost impossible to resist, given the plentiful options from simple remap and exhaust upgrade to full-fat supercharger. Just make sure any power hikes come with a corresponding brake upgrade.

Just the start
Speaking of full-fat superchargers and upgrades, the ultimate factory versions were the Ford Shelby GT500 and 500KR. The legendary Shelby name returned a year after the original launch, and allowed the Mustang to go chasing M5s. It was a collaboration between Ford SVT and Carroll Shelby, and was landmarked by its 500hp, 480lb ft, 5.4-litre V8, now packing a supercharger the size of a medium-sized semi-detached house.

Stripes? Check. Supercharger? Check.
Stripes? Check. Supercharger? Check.
And the end result was magical - imagine the best bits of the standard Mustang GT fired through a heavy-duty amplifier, and you're there. On a long haul drive to Switzerland's Furka Pass and back, it proved an utterly memorable companion, and combined the role of head-turner, mile muncher, and B-road weapon beautifully. Only the need to refuel every 200 miles or so spoiled what was pretty much the perfect road trip. In the mountains, it was riotous to drive, more than capable of demolishing passes - although it did take up rather a lot of road space in the face of oncoming traffic.

The shame is that the Mustang GT and its Shelby cousin were never officially sold by Ford the UK. But the good news for British fans is that pretty much day one, a raft of importers would bring the Mustang to our shores to slake the huge demand, and SVA them ready for use. Back in 2005, when the Mustang GT first appeared, the £25,000-ish price tag represented a huge amount of performance and road presence for the money.

If you're going to do it make sure there's a V8 here
If you're going to do it make sure there's a V8 here
Mustangs in the UK
As when they were new, the S197 Mustang is a surprisingly rational used buy. You can pick up a 4.0-litre V6 from £10-12K, while the GT bottoms out at around £12-14K. Given the enthusiasm of the majority of Mustang owners, examples at this price point are still going to be very nice indeed, although make sure it was properly SVA'd when new. That can rise to £40K-plus for the best Shelby GT500s - but these are altogether more special and wonderful.

Mustangs aren't for shrinking violets, though, and owning one in the UK will attract attention. But like most recent Americans, it's nowhere near the as needy to run as you might expect. There are specialist garages who will give you a premium service and a feeling of well-being, but equally, the Mustang is a car most competent garages can overhaul - and many jobs are also a DIY proposition. Parts, too, are inexpensive - as you'd expect for a car produced in such large numbers when new.

And armed with that, it's safe to say that the Mustang GT is a PH Hero that's not only great fun at the weekends, but one that you could use day-in, day-out. Think of it as an old-school icon that's barely scraped through the 21st century entrance exam, and now revels in the fact that it has killer charm. And it's as individual as the enthusiasts who run them.

The new one has a lot to live up to.


FORD MUSTANG
Engine:
4,601cc V8
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive (yee-haw)
Power (hp): 300@5,750rpm
Torque (lb ft): 320@4,500rpm
0-60mph: 5.5 sec
Top speed:
150mph
Weight: 1,580kg
On sale: 2005-2010
Price new (2005): £25,995 (depending on spec and importer)
Price now: £12,000-£20,000

Author
Discussion

Fartgalen

Original Poster:

6,637 posts

207 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Great cars - in my humble unbiased opinion.
I've got a 2012 with the 5.0 Coyote engine. It's very responsive, and sounds great.
I had a Roush 427 with the supercharged 4.6 combined with all the Roush suspension and braking upgrades. That was an awesome car.
But I also enjoy pootling around in my 97 Convert smile

Gorbyrev

1,160 posts

154 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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One of the best re-imaginings of recent years. Have a real soft spot for these. Off to the classifieds....

Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Love mine, although it's the unpopular 2010 model but with a vortech strapped on it's nippy enough to keep a Coyote engined car honest. As the article says maintenance is an easy DIY job, insurance/road tax are cheap and even with the 3.73 rear axle it will do 23 US mpg on a run.

Every trip is an occasion although people looking at it does get tiresome after a while, particularly when they're too busy taking pictures of it to concentrate on their driving.

lee_erm

1,091 posts

193 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Suprised how light they are!

KingNothing

3,168 posts

153 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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I think the fourth generation looked absolutely hideous, I like the fifth gen, wouldn't buy one though, waiting to see if Ford take the piss with the pricing of the sixth generation here, if they don't I might be tempted into one.

irocfan

40,432 posts

190 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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well I bought mine in sept - low mileage 05 GT and I really couldn't be happier, an after-market zorst makes it sound amazing, the standard stereo (in my case a shaker 1000) sounds great to me and goes loud enough to make your ears bleed (though TBH it's not universally loved), comfortable to drive with good performance and good looking what's not to like? I will admit that the interior of my old Audi TT is better put together, but I'd still rather be in the 'stang

hoegaardenruls

1,218 posts

132 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Have had a couple as a hire cars, one for a three week stratch, it was a pretty easy car to live with apart from a pretty dumb control setup for the interior lighting that was less than obvious.

Size wise, they don't feel as big as the article suggests and one of the better interiors I seen on an American car - OK, not up to German standards, but fairly acceptable all the same.

Something I enjoyed driving and missed when I handed it back, so there would definitely be a GT500 in my fantasy garage.

chr15b

3,467 posts

190 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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I would be more than happy with the current US V6, had one in California last year, wasnt bad on fuel, i'd describe it as enough power, and a stunning looking car.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Keith Adams of PistonHeads said:
Specific power output was low at 300hp, but with 320lb ft of torque to play with, and one of the most mellodious exhaust notes known to man, accessing the Mustang GT's grunt was an indulgent experience. Its willingness to rev was a bit of a culture shock for anyone used to more breathless US V8s
While 300hp was a big step up for the GT, the big talk re: power in 2005 was that Ford had managed to still not keep up with a 1998 Fbody.

The 3v'er unit also isn't as revvy as older DOHC 4.6 variants of the same engine, nor a Chevy LS6.

The exhaust note of an S197 is almost the same as any other modular V8 powered vehicle.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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lee_erm said:
Suprised how light they are!
Yet they are heavier than the sn95 they replaced, which in turn was heavier than the Fox that it replaced.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Gorbyrev said:
One of the best re-imaginings of recent years. Have a real soft spot for these. Off to the classifieds....
To be fair, the sn95 was a rather popular Stang too. Just for some reason not one often talked about in the UK. But they have a big following in the US and were successful during their production run.

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

218 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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I love my 06 GT, I can’t think of anything that would be better for me, cheap easy servicing and parts, the tyres are expensive because they are an odd size (on 18’s anyway). The great thing is it’s not that hard to drive, though it does demand respect, especially in the wet.

Over the past 4 1/2 years it has been a dependable steed, only letting me down once when the 6 year old battery packed in last winter. I bought it in 2009 with 23,000 on the clock, it now has 68000 on the clock and almost 100 full power passes (and their associated burnouts) on the drag strip. In that time it has had:

An oil +filter change every 5000 miles (£40 if you DIY)
3 Pollen filters (£25 a pop shipped from the US)
2 fuel filters (£10 each)
One set of ball joints (£140)
Alternator £300 (was just a dry joint but I replaced it anyway)
Two sets of tyres (£700 for four) (usually last around 20,000 miles)
Two lots of differential oil (£60)
One coolant change (~£50)

That’s it other than fuel, tax (currently £225pa), MOT and insurance.

If you keep it stock and don’t spend ££££’s on upgrades and racing like me (make it faster and more consistent on the race track) the running costs are in the hot hatch bracket (especially if you self-service it as much as possible) and the fuel consumption isn’t that bad either; despite the mods (my garage links to my build thread), I am getting around 19mpg (US indicated) or 22.8mpg UK on my 11.5 mile daily commute (an increase over the 16.5mpg (19.8UK) it did when I bought it. Which is mixed, around 4 1/2 miles of NSL B-road and 1 mile of NSL DC in the middle of 3 miles of town driving at each end so not much scope for kicking its teeth in (traffic), especially at this time of year. Pre-modifications at 70mph it would return 31mpg (UK) post, around 26mpg post mod.

Unless you deal with toll roads regularly the LHD is a non-issue (I have never encountered a problem), I can’t think of one instance where I have wanted it to be RHD. Even in stock form it doesn’t handle badly at all, but a few cheap (£200 for a set of springs and £200 for a set of rear lower control arms) make a huge difference, as does ditching the stock tyres for something decent that come with the car which are hideous things, Toyo T1 Sports seem to do the job very nicely.

Mine is far from stock (non-supercharged) but these cars were built to be modified and to be driven, leaving them locked in the garage because it’s a bit damp is tantamount to cruelty.

I don’t think I’d ever sell it, well not unless somebody offers me say £250,000 (and not a penny less) for it.

lee_erm said:
Suprised how light they are!


Indeed they aren’t that heavy really (the Shelby is rather lardy – especially the convertible), the shipped weight for my 06 Auto was 1590kg.

Fire99

9,844 posts

229 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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swerni said:
Not exactly a stunner is it?
Nope, I agree. A Mustang shouldn't look like a cross between a Coupé'd Sierra and a S14 (not the 'a') Nissan 200sx.


300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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swerni said:
300bhp/ton said:
Gorbyrev said:
One of the best re-imaginings of recent years. Have a real soft spot for these. Off to the classifieds....
To be fair, the sn95 was a rather popular Stang too. Just for some reason not one often talked about in the UK. But they have a big following in the US and were successful during their production run.
Not exactly a stunner is it?


The S197 has really revitalised the brand and helped create a new era of muscle cars
I'm a huge s197 fan, so I'm not going to knock it. But I think the sn95 looked good too. Even more so when you consider other world market offerings at the time.

For instance, I really like the look of these:





Euro offerings at the time would have been a 320ci or underperforming Audi. Neither of which I'd call as striking or good looking and both lacking performance in comparison.

Fire99

9,844 posts

229 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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300bhp/ton said:
Yep that doesn't look bad at all but so many looked more like this:



peterbredde

775 posts

200 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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I have a 2014 GT. Every journey is an occasion. For the money, the experience is pretty much unbeatable. I am sure the new one will be a good car, there is no way Ford would risk dumping a lemon on the market, it has learnt it's lesson.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Fire99 said:
Yep that doesn't look bad at all but so many looked more like this:

Actually not many at all. The early ones did, but the 'new age' models look sharper and it was the new age sn95 that the s197 replaced.

That said, remember the car you pictured replaced this:


So in 1994 was quite a change from the then current model.

And lets not forget that in 1994 here in the UK for the same sort of money/marlet segment we'd have been offered things that looked like this:



or this:


So it's all relative. smile

Stig

11,817 posts

284 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Hear hear!

Not that I'm biased of course...



Amazing what completely replacing the suspension and brakes will do (not to mention various engine mods) hehe

Z06George

2,519 posts

189 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Motorrad said:
Love mine, although it's the unpopular 2010 model but with a vortech strapped on it's nippy enough to keep a Coyote engined car honest. As the article says maintenance is an easy DIY job, insurance/road tax are cheap and even with the 3.73 rear axle it will do 23 US mpg on a run.

Every trip is an occasion although people looking at it does get tiresome after a while, particularly when they're too busy taking pictures of it to concentrate on their driving.
I didn't realise the 2010 was unpopular? Personally I much prefer the looks of the '10 to the '05 shape and they're rarer!

Fire99

9,844 posts

229 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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300bhp/ton said:
So it's all relative. smile
I wouldn't go that far. A Mustang should not be in anything like the market segment of a Ford Escort and if it starts to look like a Jap MX6, you know it's in trouble.

The 2005- Mustang got it back where it should be in the styling department.