RE: Porsche 911 50 Years Edition: Review

RE: Porsche 911 50 Years Edition: Review

Tuesday 1st April 2014

Porsche 911 50 Years Edition: Review

Shocking revelations at the wheel of the celebratory retro-modern 991



The disclaimer at the bottom of the homepage for Singer Vehicle Design should give you some indication of the attitude of Porsche AG towards those who dare to re-imagine the perfect retro-modern 911 in their own eyes. Not that this has stopped Porsche having a go, even if the finished product is far less extensive than those created by Singer. And around a fifth of the price.

Widebody C4 arches a bit broad for B-roads
Widebody C4 arches a bit broad for B-roads
The 50 Years Edition is not the first in-house retro-modern 911 though. The 997-based Sport Classic took the idea further, and more exclusively, with just 250 built back in 2009 and still commanding big numbers if the £149K for the only example currently in the PH classifieds is anything to go by.

That compares with 1,963 50 Years Editions, the full press pack for which we posted up to accompany our original news story.

Swotting up
Suitably up to speed? OK, you'll know it's basically a two-wheel drive Carrera 2 S wearing a Carrera 4 widebody shell and powered by the 400hp 3.8-litre six. Houndstooth fabric inserts in the style of the retro Pepita cloth are the most distinctive interior feature besides extensive 50 Years Edition branding. Well, you want something for that near £9K premium over a standard 2 S, right? Outside you've got those Fuchs-style wheels in a distinctly un-retro 20-inch diameter, a bit of chrome between the lights and suitably 60s paint shades of Graphite Grey or Geyser Grey to complete the look.

Retro houndstooth cloth a lovely touch
Retro houndstooth cloth a lovely touch
Credit to Porsche GB for speccing its press car with a manual gearbox too. OK, so there's a sense of cable-driven rubberiness in the shift but the gate feels tighter and more positive than earlier manual 991s and once over the novelty of seven ratios on a manual shifter it feels very normal.

What was that about uncorrupted interaction though? Ah yes, seems the 991 has gained rev-matching downshifts to make the dwindling number of die-hards opting for manual over PDK even more indignant. After all, if you're that stubborn you can probably heel'n'toe yourself, right? It only interacts in Sport Plus mode though; below there's a video along the same twisty road with the system on and off to see who could do it better. We'll call it a points draw.

Quirk of fate
And this is one of the ironies of the 50 Years Edition; in celebrating some of the trademark eccentricities that have made the car such an institution it also shines a light on the way technology has been introduced to eradicate them.

Can same be said of upscaled Fuchs?
Can same be said of upscaled Fuchs?
Another example. The width of the thing. That extra 44mm in the Carrera 4's body makes the difference between threading it along a classic British B-road with a grin on your face or wincing every time the offside rear wheel ba-dum-ba-dum-ba-dums along the cats' eyes while the nearside one kicks up dust from the kerbside. The 991 is arguably the most beautiful of recent 911s. But it's put on some weight in middle age has lost that trademark wieldiness.

So it's a bit of a rotter then?

Er, no. Porsche can try and sanitise the 911 driving experience for the modern age but it's still a unique proposition. Sports auspuf in loud mode, the S motor has that chuntery, guttural tickover and howling top end you'd have associated with GT3s of a generation or two back and, like them, gets increasingly more thrilling the nearer to the redline you go. Revs? It loves 'em.

Busy body
The standard PASM is recalibrated for the widebody set-up and even in standard mode the 50 Years Edition feels pretty lively and involved over a bumpy road, the steering feeding back with plenty of detail even if not as exquisitely nuanced as it once was. It still makes demands of you if you're out to cover ground cross country, yet will tickle along on the motorway showing 30mpg-plus.

Manual on test car to complete retro feel
Manual on test car to complete retro feel
Still not sold on the whole retro thing though? Well, this is among the few 911s we've driven that seems to elicit heartfelt oohs and aahs from even 'civilian' onlookers. By which we mean, not to put too fine a point on it, women. Yes, drive a GT3 and you'll attract a) geeky blokes of a similar mindset or b) mid-life boy racer derision from the fairer sex. Possibly c) men with fire hoses if you haven't parked yours up yet as ordered. [If we hadn't someone would have... - Ed.]

But even non-car folk seem won over by the 50 Years Edition. Actual, real life women stopped in their tracks and said 'nice car!' Wonders never cease.


PORSCHE 911 CARRERA S 50 YEARS EDITION
Engine:
3,800cc flat-6
Transmission: 7-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 400@7,400rpm
Torque (lb ft): 324@5,600rpm
0-62mph: 4.5sec
Top speed: 186mph
Weight: 1,410kg (DIN unladen)
MPG: 29.7mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 224g/km
Price: £92,257 before options (£97,503 as tested, comprising Sports Exhaust for £1,772, black headlight surrounds at £401, Sport Chrono package with dynamic engine mounts for £1,084, auto dimming mirrors/auto wipers for £372, ParkAssist front and rear for £639, Light Design Package £299, Bluetooth phone module £558 and ISOFIX on front passenger seat for £121.)


A quick vid here attempting to pit man versus machine in the context of using the Sport Plus auto rev-matching and then trying the same stretch of road using good old-fashioned heel'n'toe, with apologies for the slightly vague sound quality.

 







   

 

   
   
   
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KMB

Original Poster:

254 posts

223 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Article narrowly avoids the use of the phrase 'fanny magnet'...

Dagnut

3,515 posts

193 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Bit of a pity... sound is really the only way to differentiate

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Aren't you constantly changing gear with 7 of the buggers? biggrin

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Still fiddling around with mic set-up for the GoPro; admittedly there's not as much engine noise there as ideally needed to make the point. But you get a sense of the car I hope.

And the whole 'fanny magnet' thing? Trust you detected tongue firmly in cheek there. As stated, the only people who've ever approached me before while driving flash cars have been fellow car geeks. Which is perfectly pleasant. But some way distant from the myth of 'pulling power' some subscribe to.

Cheers,

Dan

MogulBoy

2,932 posts

223 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Try an external mic pointing at the sound symposer...

It's a hole/new thing - just under the rear window inside the car.

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/991/704682-s...

Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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In a thread about the GT3 a few months ago, I was derided for suggesting that the 991 appears to have gone soft and seems to have been designed for those who favour golf club appeal over getting stuck in to a B-road. Time has done nothing to change my mind.

Features such as the electric steering, electric parking brake, automatic this and that, the fact that they've moved the engine forwards and given it a longer wheelbase etc. etc. all subtract from what I see as the reasons to buy a 911 over just about any other luxe-barge on the market.

I'm sure Porsche are too busy rolling in money to care, and in any case I couldn't afford one but it just seems a massive shame that one of the most iconic cars in the world is slowly losing what makes it so special.

- I mean; what's next? Put the engine in the front like the Beetle and base it on the MQB platform? rolleyes

blaza

50 posts

126 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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So I'm 20 months into 991 C2S ownership with pdk for the first time and manual gear changing looks so...well, archaic. Never thought I'd say it. The car's a belter and Porsche have moved the game on with it.

Animal

5,249 posts

268 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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In the metal this thing is stunning. A demure colour (Geyser Grey) but somehow very eye-catching. Sounded dirty too...

Rob_the_Sparky

1,000 posts

238 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Shame they had to put 20" wheels on it, that just looks wrong when trying to achieve a "retro" look.

MrBig

2,694 posts

129 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Loving the interior on this. Shame they couldn't have used the 19" Fuchs that featured on the 911 Sport Classic(?) I'm not a fan of the wheels on this one.

E65Ross

35,078 posts

212 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Aren't you constantly changing gear with 7 of the buggers? biggrin
I believe the 7th is purely a cruising gear so unless on the motorway you won't be shifting any more than normal (and then you don't change often on the motorway) so no. Especially when going for a fun drive you'll not be using any more gears than with the old 6 speeder.

smilo996

2,791 posts

170 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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The "extensive 50 Years Edition branding" was meant to celebrate the amazing fact that Porsche has produced the same car for 50 years. No mean feat in anyone's world.
Some might say it is deeply embarrassing to be doing so. However it is the car in Porsche's history. However:

Ferrari built a whole new car because they won the 2000 F1 championship.

Aston Martin built a new car to celebrate 100 years and produced special editions for all its cars.

Lambo built a new car and pimped the other ones for it's 50th.

Ford built a new car.

Porsche add a badge some fabric inserts, bits of chrome some badges, changed the insert fabric and added some new wheels.

If you take the options pack, it costs the same price as a GT3.

The singer is not much more expensive and much more exclusive.


Sampaio

377 posts

138 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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anonymous said:
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It's the engine/transmission layout and the overall design that stay the same, but it's for a good reason - both work pretty well.

And if you want something different from Porsche there's the Cayman, which is a phenomenal sports car.

I just wish they had the guts to make some sort of "Cayman GT3"...

Coolbanana

4,416 posts

200 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Lovely - and I'd much rather have one of these than an F-Type.

I'll be looking at a 991 most likely in a year or two, still enjoying my 997.2 at the moment.

wtdoom

3,742 posts

208 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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smilo996 said:
The "extensive 50 Years Edition branding" was meant to celebrate the amazing fact that Porsche has produced the same car for 50 years. No mean feat in anyone's world.
Some might say it is deeply embarrassing to be doing so. However it is the car in Porsche's history. However:

Ferrari built a whole new car because they won the 2000 F1 championship.

Aston Martin built a new car to celebrate 100 years and produced special editions for all its cars.

Lambo built a new car and pimped the other ones for it's 50th.

Ford built a new car.

Porsche add a badge some fabric inserts, bits of chrome some badges, changed the insert fabric and added some new wheels.

If you take the options pack, it costs the same price as a GT3.

The singer is not much more expensive and much more exclusive.
The car has many little differences that appeal to someone that wants the usability of the 911 with a little uniqueness .
Personally I love ours , it's probably the best car we own for regular use duty .

There's more to her than the nos inserts , green instruments , extra chrome et all .
Having said all that it's fine to agree to disagree , they are personal opinions . The thing that you have completely wrong is that a singer is "not much more expensive " . Our 50th anniversary has power kit , burmeister stereo , etc etc and was MUCH cheaper than the half a million dollars plus it would take to build me a singer to my spec , that does not include import duty , vat etc FYI.

85Carrera

3,503 posts

237 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Chaps, did you not notice the date of the article?

peterattheboro

1,362 posts

183 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Is this going to be another depreciation proof Porsche?

Love these special editions.

Wills2

22,819 posts

175 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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My perfect car, all I need is the 100k.

I love the retro details the fabric/leather for the seats, the green dials etc...

roystinho

3,767 posts

175 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Now that sport classic 997...

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Amazing looking car - a manual one of these for daily use & a GT3 or 918 for the weekend.