Challenge Stradale hits £200k
Discussion
WolfyJones said:
I'm not surprised, can only see prices going up.
In 5 years it may seem like a bargain. It shouldn't be compared to the price of current models, it's a totally different market, similar to that of the more traditional 'classics'; all of which have risen considerably. Anyone want to swap their 246 for an F12? .....thought not! ThreesixtyM said:
In 5 years it may seem like a bargain. It shouldn't be compared to the price of current models, it's a totally different market, similar to that of the more traditional 'classics'; all of which have risen considerably. Anyone want to swap their 246 for an F12? .....thought not!
Agreed. But won't the Scuderia and 16M will impact its value? What're they priced at now?rubystone said:
ThreesixtyM said:
In 5 years it may seem like a bargain. It shouldn't be compared to the price of current models, it's a totally different market, similar to that of the more traditional 'classics'; all of which have risen considerably. Anyone want to swap their 246 for an F12? .....thought not!
Agreed. But won't the Scuderia and 16M will impact its value? What're they priced at now?montpellier said:
Offered for sale by Charles Hurst Belfast in March 2008 at £115,995 (5761 miles) and by Dick Lovett Swindon in May 2012 at £114,990 (8722 miles). The thing I don't get it who is prepared to pay the best part of twice as much just to have the steering wheel on the right rather than the left?
Jonathan
jtremlett said:
ffered for sale by Charles Hurst Belfast in March 2008 at £115,995 (5761 miles) and by Dick Lovett Swindon in May 2012 at £114,990 (8722 miles).
The thing I don't get it who is prepared to pay the best part of twice as much just to have the steering wheel on the right rather than the left?
Jonathan
Only a Brit. Are we seeing the same demand for these cars on the continent as in the UK? Maybe the smart way to buy one is the lhd route?...The thing I don't get it who is prepared to pay the best part of twice as much just to have the steering wheel on the right rather than the left?
Jonathan
rubystone said:
Agreed. But won't the Scuderia and 16M will impact its value? What're they priced at now?
I'm not sure they are comparable. People buy a CS because they REALLY want a CS (at £200k you'd have to). The 16M is very special, I'm sure demand will outstrip supply for both models in years to come. What is interesting are the price increases we are seeing for only a 10 year old car. Other models have had to wait a lot longer. Who knows what the future holds. Edited by ThreesixtyM on Saturday 12th April 20:47
rubystone said:
Are we seeing the same demand for these cars on the continent as in the UK? Maybe the smart way to buy one is the lhd route?...
The prices on the continent have also moved upwards. There are far fewer for sale now than last year. I suspect many are coming over here as private imports and are not about to come onto the market any time soon...mine is one, not at any price. Edited by ThreesixtyM on Saturday 12th April 20:48
ThreesixtyM said:
The prices on the continent have also moved upwards. There are far fewer for sale now than last year. I suspect many are coming over here as private imports and are not about to come onto the market any time soon...mine is one, not at any price.
There are currently 12 Stradales listed for sale by Ferrari main dealers on the Ferrari website. Here are the prices (with conversion to sterling using the current exchange rate) and the country:Edited by ThreesixtyM on Saturday 12th April 20:48
SEK 875,000 41,800 km £79967 Sweden
JPY 13,800,000 15,000 km £81130 Japan
CHF 120,000 48,000 km £81867 Switzerland
CHF 129,000 28,100 km £88007 Switzerland
USD 149,995 16,262 mi £89570 USA
EUR 109,500 39,000 km £90805 Netherlands
JPY 15,980,000 15,200 km £93946 Japan
USD 159,000 12,121 mi £94948 USA
USD 169,999 4,489 mi £101516 USA
CHF 155,000 15,575 km £105745 Switzerland
EUR 129,000 14,000 km £106976 Germany
GBP 199,990 9,188 mi £199990 UK
A small sample but it isn't hard to spot where the anomaly is (even though the list doesn't layout properly when I save it).
Jonathan
jtremlett said:
here are currently 12 Stradales listed for sale by Ferrari main dealers on the Ferrari website. Here are the prices (with conversion to sterling using the current exchange rate) and the country:
SEK 875,000 41,800 km £79967 Sweden
JPY 13,800,000 15,000 km £81130 Japan
CHF 120,000 48,000 km £81867 Switzerland
CHF 129,000 28,100 km £88007 Switzerland
USD 149,995 16,262 mi £89570 USA
EUR 109,500 39,000 km £90805 Netherlands
JPY 15,980,000 15,200 km £93946 Japan
USD 159,000 12,121 mi £94948 USA
USD 169,999 4,489 mi £101516 USA
CHF 155,000 15,575 km £105745 Switzerland
EUR 129,000 14,000 km £106976 Germany
GBP 199,990 9,188 mi £199990 UK
A small sample but it isn't hard to spot where the anomaly is (even though the list doesn't layout properly when I save it).
Jonathan
With respect though, totally over simplistic analysis. You forget that VAT at 20% would be payable on most of those cars from outside the EEC and that most of those cars aren't ultra low mileage like the UK car.SEK 875,000 41,800 km £79967 Sweden
JPY 13,800,000 15,000 km £81130 Japan
CHF 120,000 48,000 km £81867 Switzerland
CHF 129,000 28,100 km £88007 Switzerland
USD 149,995 16,262 mi £89570 USA
EUR 109,500 39,000 km £90805 Netherlands
JPY 15,980,000 15,200 km £93946 Japan
USD 159,000 12,121 mi £94948 USA
USD 169,999 4,489 mi £101516 USA
CHF 155,000 15,575 km £105745 Switzerland
EUR 129,000 14,000 km £106976 Germany
GBP 199,990 9,188 mi £199990 UK
A small sample but it isn't hard to spot where the anomaly is (even though the list doesn't layout properly when I save it).
Jonathan
True but some if these will have local VAT that would not be chargeable on an export. The Swiss cars for example probably include 9% tax.
Cars definitely cheaper on the continent ... I just bout a 20k kms car, 2 owners, red with stripe, FFSH etc for chf 113k. Absolute bargain.
Just need it to arrive in Dubai now......
Cars definitely cheaper on the continent ... I just bout a 20k kms car, 2 owners, red with stripe, FFSH etc for chf 113k. Absolute bargain.
Just need it to arrive in Dubai now......
If any Swiss car came to the UK it would be liable as said for 20% vat.
It may have had tax paid in swissy but not the EU.
Your right euro cars are still a bargain but yours in the UK would cost about £105k plus the dreaded light saga unless you can find a nice MOT man.
Still very cheap comparitavly.
It may have had tax paid in swissy but not the EU.
Your right euro cars are still a bargain but yours in the UK would cost about £105k plus the dreaded light saga unless you can find a nice MOT man.
Still very cheap comparitavly.
richardmeaks said:
With respect though, totally over simplistic analysis. You forget that VAT at 20% would be payable on most of those cars from outside the EEC and that most of those cars aren't ultra low mileage like the UK car.
One of the cars is even lower in mileage, and 4 are around the same when you convert from km to miles.Vat is a reasonable argument although 20% on £80k is not worth worrying about, as you'd still be saving £100k over the UK car.
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