RE: Aston Martin Vanquish manual: Driven

RE: Aston Martin Vanquish manual: Driven

Tuesday 20th May 2014

Aston Martin Vanquish manual: Driven

What is a Vanquish really like with three pedals and a stick rather than paddles? PH finds out



It's a marketing rather than an engineering decision if ever there was one: Aston Martin's first-gen Vanquish was only ever available as a paddleshift automatic.

That's more like it, don't you think?
That's more like it, don't you think?
This car proves it - the Aston Martin Works-converted Vanquish manual demonstrator, complete with six-speed shifter sprouting prominently out of the centre console. Because it comes about not through fitting an entirely new manual transaxle from another Aston, extensive re-engineering and all... but by replacing the Tremec/Borg-Warner T-56 six-speed gearbox's Magneti Marelli semi-auto shifter pack (also used by period Ferrari 360s) with a conventional manual selector. Simple now; it would have been a breeze back then.

They didn't, because of the desire to give the Vanquish a technological-leader image. The 21st century Bond doesn't shift a gearlever, he uses paddles - and back in 2001, paddleshifters were still a little bit space age. Every single one of the 2,500 Vanquish and Vanquish S built between 2001 and 2007 was thus duly equipped.

A lesson in avoidance
Sadly, as we know, the shifts themselves weren't so space age. They were smooth enough and downshift blips were amusing but, even then, they seemed laggy. Today, it's like switching back to a Windows 95 PC. That's the thing when electronics form a major part of a car - electronics evolve, and so too do our expectations.

Development car now running S spec
Development car now running S spec
Then there's the nagging question of reliability and longevity. The first road test cars suffered gearbox gremlins and, apparently, Aston Martin's one-day driver training course for all Vanquish buyers even included a lesson in city centre motoring - basically, keep a gap to the car in front so you can stay rolling, rather than stopping and starting, to protect the clutch...

In theory, then, this manual V12 Vanquish should be rather nice. Particularly as those fearing a bit of a lash up will be amazed at how factory-fit it all seems. The gearknob, donated by a V8 Vantage, looks like it was born to be there, and the position of the lever is ergonomically perfect (anyone remember the awkward canting over of the Reliant Scimitar SS1..?). If you didn't know the Vanquish never came as a manual, you'd think there was nothing extraordinary here. Goodness, there's even just enough space for the clutch, meaning no original 911-like feelings of pressing down into the passenger footwell.

As if it would be a lash up, though: this is the work of, well, Aston Martin Works, the crack development department based at the firm's spiritual HQ in Newport Pagnell. They've neatly used the central ashtray to house the lever (for the Vanquish S, it became a cupholder) and because Aston covers it all in leather matching the rest of the interior, the slight remodelling required to ensure the lever has full fore and aft travel without your fist smashing into the centre console is completely hidden. The steering wheel cowl hasn't been forgotten either (the paddles are removed, not left redundant...).

Now control your own heel 'n' toe!
Now control your own heel 'n' toe!
Manual decision: vanquished
But for all this, you'll still pause as you start up. For a decade, this has been a paddleshift car. How do you drive a manual Vanquish? As it turns out, because of the quality of the shift, just like a normal manual (a light and crisp one at that). It snicks into first cleanly, the meaty clutch is not the feared brutal switch as you let it out and, well, everything gels nicely from the off. The only surprise is shifting from second to third, and later from third to fifth: it has an extremely narrow gate that requires a delicate hand. Mindful of expensive V12-munching downshifts, maybe Aston should revive that Vanquish driver training with a revised gearbox training module...

It soon starts to flow, so the rest of the revived Vanquish can be explored. The other surprise? How it still stands scrutiny. It feels like a classic front-engined V12 coupe, with all the handling confidence you'd hope for (the fact this original development hack was converted for Vanquish S trials helps - and explains why Y-plate registration doesn't match S-spec grille, front splitter and rear spoiler). Drive normally and it's nice and neutral, press on and it becomes satisfyingly rear-influenced, with the predictability and directness of the gearshift giving you further confidence (rather like as Dan discovered recently with the difference between manual and DCT BMW M3). It maybe even lets you drive that bit quicker, because you feel more keyed into the car beneath you - and on twisty British roads, complete predictability is what you need when piloting a sports car that's more than 1.9 metres wide. An intelligent nicely damped ride is too; you sense the magic of Lotus.

Still pretty fabulous to drive as well
Still pretty fabulous to drive as well
This early incarnation of Aston's V12 motor is, on reflection, also rather nice. It doesn't quite have the finishing school culture today's iterations do, so is a little rawer and more prominent, and better to a classic driver's eyes as a result. Entertainment is more important than the ultimate in driving refinement here, and with this engine, you certainly know you're driving a V12. Particularly when, deep into the test route, you notice you've used plenty of the remaining fuel, leaving the dial pointing worryingly close to zero. Enter cruise mode, and enter one more major reasons paddleshift Vanquish owners may consider the conversion: it trickles along in traffic beautifully, not a lunge in sight nor the merest whiff of a lightly-cooking clutch.

It's a super conversion, that makes the Vanquish the car it perhaps ought to have been back when manual gearboxes really were in vogue. This, and the allure of the Aston Martin Works stamps and stickers, is why so many (we're talking hundreds rather than handfuls) are now having it done, despite the upwards-of-£15,000 cost (most have a few other Works tweaks while there - modern-grade touchscreen sat nav being a favourite). Vanquish manual? Thanks to Works, we know it works.


ASTON MARTIN V12 VANQUISH S MANUAL
Engine:
5,935cc V12
Transmission: Six-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 520@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 425@5,800rpm
0-62mph: 4.8 seconds (est)
Top speed: 200mph +
Kerbweight: 1,875kg (est)
MPG: 16.9 NEDC combined (est)
CO2: 396g/km (est)
Price: Used Vanquish + c.£15,000






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Discussion

stats007

Original Poster:

531 posts

235 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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The awful flappy-paddle in the Vanquish was the reason I bought a 575M. Saying that Ferrari's efforts weren't much better.

MogulBoy

2,932 posts

223 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Someone needs to work out a similar conversion on 575M F1's as in the present market, the manuals appear to be fetching such premiums, it could be interesting...

jayemm89

4,036 posts

130 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Crikey, this is a bit old isn't it?

I thought some of the Vanquish S did originally leave the factory with a manual?

I would be much more interested to know whether the current Vanquish is any good with a proper stick...

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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proper duel clutch paddles for me please

stunning car smile

AyBee

10,533 posts

202 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Such a good looking car cloud9 I remember TG doing a review against the Ferrari with Damon Hill and have wanted one ever since! Manual conversion would be perfect. How much are these these days? *walks off to the classifieds*

stats007

Original Poster:

531 posts

235 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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I bought the Ferrari they did the test with:

Part 1
Part 2


anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Wow where has that old dev car been hiding all these years and how did it avoid getting scrapped yonks ago?? Must have been snuck away in the depths of WS somewhere:


Here's its twin, a car i worked with more years ago than i now like to think....




(notice the number plate ;-)

British Beef

2,213 posts

165 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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I find it bloody annoying when browsing the classifieds for manual Vanquishes you find that there appear to be dozens of manuals vanquishes for sale, only to find most if not all have been incorrectly listed !!

JDMDrifter

4,041 posts

165 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Love this work, proper aftermarket mods that really improve the original car!

synXero

75 posts

122 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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I must have this car. I literally must.

aspirated

2,539 posts

146 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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synXero said:
I must have this car. I literally must.
This is possibly the most perfect Aston ever IMO

steveirl

276 posts

212 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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I own a Vanquish, it is a rather nice drive, very old school, and feels very special. I still think it is one of the most beautiful looking, and sounding cars ever made. The paddle shift suits the nature of the car, and once you don't treat it as a conventional automatic, it is good to use, especially when downshifting.
I do like the idea of the manual conversion though, and a few weeks ago contacted Aston Works to enquire on the cost. Here, Pistonheads is slightly out of date, as the cost is just over 16k plus VAT!

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

188 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Perfect Aston IMO. I'm sure the DB9 was better in nearly every way, but the Vanquish looks so masculine and pleasing on the eye. Not keen on the article car though, black wheels make my nose turn up on one side; they should be any shade of silver...just not black!

Kong

1,503 posts

171 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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aspirated said:
synXero said:
I must have this car. I literally must.
This is possibly the most perfect Aston ever IMO
yes British racing green Vanquish S with manual conversion - Aston Martin perfection

SYTShadow

2 posts

119 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Can someone please link the M3 comments that Dan had?


As for the manual Aston, it is clearly the way to go. I am very lucky here in the US I can get a E60 M5 in 6MT... the only way to go!

Armen

252 posts

148 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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British Beef said:
I find it bloody annoying when browsing the classifieds for manual Vanquishes you find that there appear to be dozens of manuals vanquishes for sale, only to find most if not all have been incorrectly listed !!
Because the original paddle-shift gearbox is indeed a manual gearbox with a electro-hydraulic clutch. That's why there are listed as "manual". If "automatic" was written it would be wrong.

The Vanquish/S (2001-2007) is to me the best modern Aston Martin.
It is the last hand-built Aston at Newport Pagnell factory, only 2578 ever made (1086 of them were Vanquish S with 520 bhp).
For sure the best sounding Aston ever. I guess the paddle shift suits the car well, but with a real manual gearbox, it should be memorable.
STUNNING car. So much charisma, so raw. The best would be a Vanquish S of 2006-2007 with the DB9-inspired dashboard (big navigation screen and overall more modern appearance).

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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We had a Vanquish S and sadly, the gearbox did really let it down. It was still an H-Pattern gearbox, which is why it was so slow.

Aston Martin's reason for not offering a manual gearbox was that it would involved cutting through the much publicised carbon fibre tub. Whether it was rigidity, safety, or whatever, it seems customer pressure or the lure of £15k+ was too much to resist.

A few years prior to the Vanquish S, we had a DB7 V12 Vantage with a (fairly rare) manual and it was great, but a test drive in another suggested the gearboxes could be hit and miss.

Otherwise, the car is automotive art and i imagine will be big money in the future, thanks to it's sheer presence (current Vanquish is pathetic in comparison) and the roots to Aston's labour-intensive tradition which is obviously lost somewhat today. To be fair, looking in the classifieds there are one's at decent money considering a couple of Ultimate editions sold for £200k last year.

I'd like to learn more about the upgraded touchscreen nav. I enquired with Works Service about fitting the facelift dash, but they said they don't offer it as it would be so ridiculously expensive.

Anyway, great write up and again, EXACTLY the sort of thing PH is good at.

hwajones

775 posts

181 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Good Story!
But 15k just to put a gearstick in?!!?

Problems i'll never have to worry about...


Bobley

699 posts

149 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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For 15 grand I'd want the am28 engine too and then put it on a diet.

Armen

252 posts

148 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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hondansx said:
Otherwise, the car is automotive art and i imagine will be big money in the future, thanks to it's sheer presence (current Vanquish is pathetic in comparison) and the roots to Aston's labour-intensive tradition which is obviously lost somewhat today. To be fair, looking in the classifieds there are one's at decent money considering a couple of Ultimate editions sold for £200k last year.
I do agree at 100% !

Concerning the gearbox, I know a 2002 Vanquish owner who bought it new and didn't have a single problem with the gearbox.
The only thing to note is that the original Vanquish clutch would run 20 000 miles maximum but since 2004, when replacing the clutch, Aston puts the S clutch which is more resistant.
My friend has done over 30 000 miles with the S clutch and it doesn't show any kind of wear, still perfect.