Identifying an engine?
Discussion
I have an old Saxo which should have a 1.1 HFX engine in. It's been replaced aparrently with a 1.4 but I gather they look very similar (and it says HFX 1.1 on it in scrapyard paint....)
The engine number is clearly visible - is there any way I can identify which it is based on that? Can't find any other ID markings on it apart from "Z05"
The engine number is clearly visible - is there any way I can identify which it is based on that? Can't find any other ID markings on it apart from "Z05"
I wouldn't place much faith in what blokes in scrap yard say. For example, I had a few Cavaliers of differing marques and engine sizes and the one definite identifier was the position of the oil filter. Might be worth a Haynes search to find if some common component is located in different places on differing engines.
I don't know what HFX is; the Saxo's all used the PSA TU engine, the TU1, TU3 and TU5 (except 16v) engines all had pretty much identical rocker covers so it's fairly hard to tell them apart just by looking. Unless you can see the identification plate then I guess the only real way to find out which engine it is is to either have the cylinder capacity measured or put it on a dyno.
It's an "injected" TU 1.1 then - the J in TU1JP tells us it's (meant to be) injected, and the 1 tells us it's a 1.1 (1124cc); a TU 1360cc would have TU3xx instead, TU9xx is a 954cc, TU5 is a 1.6 (engine size unknown, I stopped paying attention in the mid-'90s 
). TU says it's, errm, a TU engine 
, and the P I don't know 
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But you probably know this anyway
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). TU says it's, errm, a TU engine , and the P I don't know .But you probably know this anyway
.D'oh! Missed that bit 
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Take one of the plugs out, and set the corresponding cylinder to BDC (using, say, 50cm of straight welding wire or similar). Remove the wire then slowly pour in around 280cc of engine oil using a small funnel - if the cylinder is then full/overflowing a little bit it's a TU1.
If it starts overflowing after around 240ccs of oil have gone in then it's a TU9, and if it needs around 340cc of oil before it starts to overflow then it's a TU3. You'd need around 400ccs to get the cylinder to overflow if it's a TU5.
Empty oil out (syphon out using rubber etc hose or turn engine onto its side or even onto its rocket cover?),refit plug and be happy knowing what capacity your engine is
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.Take one of the plugs out, and set the corresponding cylinder to BDC (using, say, 50cm of straight welding wire or similar). Remove the wire then slowly pour in around 280cc of engine oil using a small funnel - if the cylinder is then full/overflowing a little bit it's a TU1.
If it starts overflowing after around 240ccs of oil have gone in then it's a TU9, and if it needs around 340cc of oil before it starts to overflow then it's a TU3. You'd need around 400ccs to get the cylinder to overflow if it's a TU5.
Empty oil out (syphon out using rubber etc hose or turn engine onto its side or even onto its rocket cover?),refit plug and be happy knowing what capacity your engine is
.Toaster Pilot said:
That's what is supposed to be in there from the factory - now how do I identify a TU1 vs TU3...
This any help?http://www.peugeot206cc.co.uk/repair-206/206/info/...
TooMany2cvs said:
This any help?
http://www.peugeot206cc.co.uk/repair-206/206/info/...
This looks promising although the diagrams show a spin on type oil filter and it has a cartridge type. http://www.peugeot206cc.co.uk/repair-206/206/info/...
Like the using oil to determine capacity method above too - will do that if I can't find any more markings!
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